Dems want Laws changed after Rittenhouse shootings. Are vigilantes the answer? (Poll)

[kyzr]

Democrats on the Sunday morning shows, as well as many others want laws changed so that law abiding citizens can't defend themselves from criminals.
In SF gangs of looters emptied Louis Vitton and other high-end stores. What if Louis hired a few armed vigilantes?
In Philadelphia, a mom and baby were killed coming home from a baby shower,
WHERE IS THE DEMOCRAT'S OUTRAGE???????????????.

Pregnant Woman Shot, Killed Returning Home From Her Baby Shower, Philadelphia Police Say

A pregnant woman is dead after a shooting in the Crescentville section of Philadelphia.

philadelphia.cbslocal.com

NYC Mayor DeBlasio said the Rittenhouse verdict "sends a horrible message"...
De Blasio joins NY’s left in raging over Kyle Rittenhouse — as NYPD on alert for potential unrest
“This verdict is disgusting and it sends a horrible message to this country. Where is the justice in this,” de Blasio tweeted after the 18-year-old defendant was cleared of all charges in the deaths of two men and the wounding of a third during racially charged violence in Kenosha, Wisconsin, in 2020."

Biden, Adams, Sharpton and others weigh in on Rittenhouse verdict

The acquittal of Kyle Rittenhouse in a Kenosha, Wis., courtroom sparked plenty of opinions on Friday — divided in the same way the country is. The baby-faced gunman, who killed two men and wounded a third at a Black Lives Matter protest last year, was hailed as a hero in right-wing circles...

news.yahoo.com

"Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) tweeted, “It’s time to dismantle systemic racism & fundamentally transform our broken justice system.”

California Gov. Gavin Newsom worried about the precedent set by the Rittenhouse case.
“America today: you can break the law, carry around weapons built for a military, shoot and kill people, and get away with it,” the Democrat tweeted. “That’s the message we’ve just sent to armed vigilantes across the nation.”


What if neighborhoods organized vigilantes to shoot criminals in their neighborhoods, today's version of a "well regulated militia"? Would urban gang shootings stop?

Lets take a poll on what should happen when pols and DAs stop police from arresting and prosecuting violent criminals.

Should vigilantes fill the gap and protect neighborhoods from criminals?

[The OP and thread title are now better aligned, sorry for the closure of the first thread discussion]

 

[occupied]

Anyone else want to sacrifice their lives and freedom to protect some corporate storefront from damage?

 

[Crepitus]

Democrats on the Sunday morning shows, as well as many others want laws changed so that law abiding citizens can't defend themselves from criminals.
In SF gangs of looters emptied Louis Vitton and other high-end stores. What if Louis hired a few armed vigilantes?
In Philadelphia, a mom and baby were killed coming home from a baby shower,
WHERE IS THE DEMOCRAT'S OUTRAGE???????????????.

Pregnant Woman Shot, Killed Returning Home From Her Baby Shower, Philadelphia Police Say

A pregnant woman is dead after a shooting in the Crescentville section of Philadelphia.

philadelphia.cbslocal.com

NYC Mayor DeBlasio said the Rittenhouse verdict "sends a horrible message"...
De Blasio joins NY’s left in raging over Kyle Rittenhouse — as NYPD on alert for potential unrest
“This verdict is disgusting and it sends a horrible message to this country. Where is the justice in this,” de Blasio tweeted after the 18-year-old defendant was cleared of all charges in the deaths of two men and the wounding of a third during racially charged violence in Kenosha, Wisconsin, in 2020."

Biden, Adams, Sharpton and others weigh in on Rittenhouse verdict

The acquittal of Kyle Rittenhouse in a Kenosha, Wis., courtroom sparked plenty of opinions on Friday — divided in the same way the country is. The baby-faced gunman, who killed two men and wounded a third at a Black Lives Matter protest last year, was hailed as a hero in right-wing circles...

news.yahoo.com

"Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) tweeted, “It’s time to dismantle systemic racism & fundamentally transform our broken justice system.”

California Gov. Gavin Newsom worried about the precedent set by the Rittenhouse case.
“America today: you can break the law, carry around weapons built for a military, shoot and kill people, and get away with it,” the Democrat tweeted. “That’s the message we’ve just sent to armed vigilantes across the nation.”


What if neighborhoods organized vigilantes to shoot criminals in their neighborhoods, today's version of a "well regulated militia"? Would urban gang shootings stop?

Lets take a poll on what should happen when pols and DAs stop police from arresting and prosecuting violent criminals.

Should vigilantes fill the gap and protect neighborhoods from criminals?

[The OP and thread title are now better aligned, sorry for the closure of the first thread discussion]

Your poll is for biased morons and will yield exactly the results you want it to because anyone with half a brain will not vote.

On the subject of your post, you've just reset the whole definition of self defense. That's gonna have wide ranging and unforeseen consequences.

 

[maybelooking]

Anyone else want to sacrifice their lives and freedom to protect some corporate storefront from damage?

no.....

but who do you recon they will come for when all the stores are out of stuff?

 

[Oddball]

Anyone else want to sacrifice their lives and freedom to protect some corporate storefront from damage?

Wow, are you really one loathsome slug.

The stores are being looted in broad daylight, to the approval of barbarian scumbags like you.

 

[OKTexas]

Anyone else want to sacrifice their lives and freedom to protect some corporate storefront from damage?

As usual you've got that question backwards. The question is, do criminals want to sacrifice their lives to try to destroy society? If the answer is yes, they should be accommodated with all haste.

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[TeeDub]

Anyone else want to sacrifice their lives and freedom to protect some corporate storefront from damage?

Most of those burned out businesses in Kenosha were mom and pop businesses.

 

[occupied]

As usual you've got that question backwards. The question is, do criminals want to sacrifice their lives to try to destroy society? If the answer is yes, they should be accommodated with all haste.

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Typical fascist mass murder fantasy.

 

[yidnar]

Typical fascist mass murder fantasy.

stop looting and burning and that would solve the whole problem .

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Anyone else want to sacrifice their lives and freedom to protect some corporate storefront from damage?

Pay mercenaries enough and the stores can afford a nice sized private army

 

[toobfreak]

Wow, are you really one loathsome slug.

You mean occupied has moved a step or two up in the world?

 

[kyzr]

Your poll is for biased morons and will yield exactly the results you want it to because anyone with half a brain will not vote.
On the subject of your post, you've just reset the whole definition of self defense. That's gonna have wide ranging and unforeseen consequences.

The poll is as accurate as it can be made.
If you have a better poll question and answers post them, otherwise you're wrong, as usual.

Self-defense is a well established term. Both legally and practically speaking. The real question is: should democrats, whose cities are shooting galleries, be commenting on areas where "law and order" are actually enforced? The dead mom and baby contrast with the dead wife beater and child rapist.

 

[night_son]

Democrats on the Sunday morning shows, as well as many others want laws changed so that law abiding citizens can't defend themselves from criminals.
In SF gangs of looters emptied Louis Vitton and other high-end stores. What if Louis hired a few armed vigilantes?
In Philadelphia, a mom and baby were killed coming home from a baby shower,
WHERE IS THE DEMOCRAT'S OUTRAGE???????????????.

Pregnant Woman Shot, Killed Returning Home From Her Baby Shower, Philadelphia Police Say

A pregnant woman is dead after a shooting in the Crescentville section of Philadelphia.

philadelphia.cbslocal.com

NYC Mayor DeBlasio said the Rittenhouse verdict "sends a horrible message"...
De Blasio joins NY’s left in raging over Kyle Rittenhouse — as NYPD on alert for potential unrest
“This verdict is disgusting and it sends a horrible message to this country. Where is the justice in this,” de Blasio tweeted after the 18-year-old defendant was cleared of all charges in the deaths of two men and the wounding of a third during racially charged violence in Kenosha, Wisconsin, in 2020."

Biden, Adams, Sharpton and others weigh in on Rittenhouse verdict

The acquittal of Kyle Rittenhouse in a Kenosha, Wis., courtroom sparked plenty of opinions on Friday — divided in the same way the country is. The baby-faced gunman, who killed two men and wounded a third at a Black Lives Matter protest last year, was hailed as a hero in right-wing circles...

news.yahoo.com

"Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) tweeted, “It’s time to dismantle systemic racism & fundamentally transform our broken justice system.”

California Gov. Gavin Newsom worried about the precedent set by the Rittenhouse case.
“America today: you can break the law, carry around weapons built for a military, shoot and kill people, and get away with it,” the Democrat tweeted. “That’s the message we’ve just sent to armed vigilantes across the nation.”


What if neighborhoods organized vigilantes to shoot criminals in their neighborhoods, today's version of a "well regulated militia"? Would urban gang shootings stop?

Lets take a poll on what should happen when pols and DAs stop police from arresting and prosecuting violent criminals.

Should vigilantes fill the gap and protect neighborhoods from criminals?

[The OP and thread title are now better aligned, sorry for the closure of the first thread discussion]

Regardless of any new law good American men and women will defend themselves, their loved ones and their property, whatever it takes. Yes. Every neighborhood should raise and maintain an armed watch.

 

[occupied]

Pay mercenaries enough and the stores can afford a nice sized private army

Having their insurance up to date is all any property owner needs to do. Hiring a goon squad has far more potential liability than most sensible business owners are willing to risk.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Having their insurance up to date is all any property owner needs to do. Hiring a goon squad has far more potential liability than most sensible business owners are willing to risk.

Vigilantes are the only reasonable response. Defund the police, replace them with paid mercenaries.

 

[night_son]

Having their insurance up to date is all any property owner needs to do. Hiring a goon squad has far more potential liability than most sensible business owners are willing to risk.

It is elementary, this notion of defense of life and property. America and every other empire down through history pays or paid armed men to defend lives and property, both domestically and on other shores. The right of the average citizen to defend life and property is equally valid. The answer is also quite elementary: do not go out and burn, pillage and loot. Refrain from any of those three actions and armed private citizens will not shoot at you. R-E-S-P-E-C-T.

 

[occupied]

Vigilantes are the only reasonable response. Defund the police, replace them with paid mercenaries.

Idiocy.

 

[Maxdeath]

I remember years ago that burning and looting were called riots. Some riots even added in attempted murder. They were looked down upon as not only morally wrong but legally wrong.
Today riots have been reclassified as protests so that they can be dismissed. If fewer then 10 people are killed or mortally wounded they are claimed to be mostly peaceful protests.
The idea of calmly walking down the street or sitting in an area as was done by people like Martin Luther King and others was not as effective as killing or maiming people, burning down stores that are almost getting by or looting big stores that close doors and put people of work for weeks or permanently.
The one thing it does do is it allows criminals free reign. And it supplies a good talking point for media to pretend it is perfectly acceptable behavior

 

[occupied]

It is elementary, this notion of defense of life and property. America and every other empire down through history pays or paid armed men to defend lives and property, both domestically and on other shores. The right of the average citizen to defend life and property is equally valid. The answer is also quite elementary: do not go out and burn, pillage and loot. Refrain from any of those three actions and armed private citizens will not shoot at you. R-E-S-P-E-C-T.

This is not the wild west. Civil and criminal liability is a thing now.

 

[Oddball]

Typical fascist mass murder fantasy.

Looting cocksuckers like you sacking businesses show that you value other peoples' stuff more so than you do your own life.