Dems lead Zelensky, Ukraine off a cliff with pressure to reject mineral deal

[krichton]

Odd. I've seen no links.

So you demanding people believe things simply because you say them...how's that working out for you? SPOILER ALERT: Not too good!

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U.S. Military Cutoff Renders HIMARS Offline for Ukraine

HIMARS, a force multiplier for Ukraine, has now been essentially sidelined following the cut of U.S. military support against Russia.

nationalinterest.org

Abruptly Blocking Intel, The U.S. Hamstrings Ukraine’s HIMARS

Ukrainian artillery batteries depend heavily on U.S. intel for strikes past 40 miles.

www.forbes.com

If you can find anyone not talking about this, let me know. This is what happens when you're trapped in a disinformation bubble where you get all your news from Trump's asshole. You end up completely cut off from reality and don't know anything about what's actually going on.

 

[krichton]

How much are you getting in kickbacks? Probably nothing; you're worthless to Democrats, except for dutifully pulling the D lever whenever the polls are open.

No, you, you're a Troo Beleever, a Useful Idiot, believing and repeating everything you're told to repeat. Long on idiocy, short on utility.

Your handler thinks you're a dumbass. And he's right.

Everything I've just said was reported by the Pentagon. Want to make you look stupid with a link?

 

[daveman]

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U.S. Military Cutoff Renders HIMARS Offline for Ukraine

HIMARS, a force multiplier for Ukraine, has now been essentially sidelined following the cut of U.S. military support against Russia.

nationalinterest.org

Abruptly Blocking Intel, The U.S. Hamstrings Ukraine’s HIMARS

Ukrainian artillery batteries depend heavily on U.S. intel for strikes past 40 miles.

www.forbes.com

If you can find anyone not talking about this, let me know. This is what happens when you're trapped in a disinformation bubble where you get all your news from Trump's asshole. You end up completely cut off from reality and don't know anything about what's actually going on.

There, was that so hard? It must have been, since you had to be hectored into it. Oh, it would be SO much simpler if the rubes would just believe everything you say!

So what's the problem? Trump said we're not giving any more assistance. Are you angry because he backed up what he said?

Are you really that stupid?

 

[daveman]

Everything I've just said was reported by the Pentagon. Want to make you look stupid with a link?

Nothing you could provide would negate anything I said in that post. You really are a Useful Idiot.

 

[krichton]

Nothing you could provide would negate anything I said in that post. You really are a Useful Idiot.

A rube will be a rube.

 

[krichton]

There, was that so hard? It must have been, since you had to be hectored into it. Oh, it would be SO much simpler if the rubes would just believe everything you say!

So what's the problem? Trump said we're not giving any more assistance. Are you angry because he backed up what he said?

Are you really that stupid?

You said, you saw no links and I replied with them in the very next reply. Is that considered being "hectored?"

How does no longer providing assistance also mean that you are going to help the enemy? Because this is precisely what is going on in front of our eyes. We are seeing in real time why Trump is a Putin asset. Imagine if FDR did something like this to Britain during WWII, if that were possible back then. What would the history books be saying about Roosevelt today? What will the history books being saying about Roosevelt if he contacted all our allies, and said, "you're not allowed to help Britain." You're kidding yourself if think Trump isn't going to be looked as a traitor and a Russian collaborator. Try and let go of your programming for just one moment and actually use some critical thinking skills, or are you that much of a sheep?

 

[toobfreak]

There, was that so hard?

That's what she asked him last night.

Oh, it would be SO much simpler if the rubes would just believe everything you say!

Their problem is that they never remember what they say then deny it all later.
They never saw one bit of issue with 'Steel-trap' Joe Biden (they couldn't keep up with the guy), but let Trump make one faux pas after running his ass off all day and they never live it down.

So what's the problem? Trump said we're not giving any more assistance. Are you angry because he backed up what he said?

If Trump were continuing Biden and EU's support of Ukraine then they'd be hollering what a reckless spendthrift he is. You see, the point of leftist politics is not because they have a better way to lead the country, it is just contrarian in that Trump is "the other." Whatever the other is, they complain it is wrong. If Trump did everything exactly as Biden, then, he'd still be wrong--- it would be too late or too early, too long, or just to feed his ego or because him and Biden are forming a tryst with Elon.

They would find something to ***** about.

Worse case, they can always fall back on the "he's a criminal" whine.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Odd. I've seen no links.

So you demanding people believe things simply because you say them...how's that working out for you? SPOILER ALERT: Not too good!

Why are you gaslighting? 

 

[daveman]

A rube will be a rube.

Hmmm. Stamping your feet and pouting seems to have no effect. I know! Maybe you should try threatening to hold your breath until you turn blue! That's sure to convince me!

 

[daveman]

You said, you saw no links and I replied with them in the very next reply. Is that considered being "hectored?"

How does no longer providing assistance also mean that you are going to help the enemy? Because this is precisely what is going on in front of our eyes. We are seeing in real time why Trump is a Putin asset. Imagine if FDR did something like this to Britain during WWII, if that were possible back then. What would the history books be saying about Roosevelt today? What will the history books being saying about Roosevelt if he contacted all our allies, and said, "you're not allowed to help Britain." You're kidding yourself if think Trump isn't going to be looked as a traitor and a Russian collaborator. Try and let go of your programming for just one moment and actually use some critical thinking skills, or are you that much of a sheep?

Pffft. You think Trump is a traitor because he prevented the coronation of Queen Hillary.

I told you why the rare-earth deal is the best and only chance at peace. You and your death cult refuse to consider it because you just want people killed, and you don't give a shit if they're Russian, Ukrainian, or American.

 

[daveman]

Why are you gaslighting? 

Why are you retarded?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Hmmm. Stamping your feet and pouting seems to have no effect. I know! Maybe you should try threatening to hold your breath until you turn blue! That's sure to convince me!

^^^ Exactly what a rube gas lighter would say.

 

[Contumacious]

More proof that democrats don't give a damn about what's best for the United States or the world for that matter. They are desperate to see Trump fail in his negotiations with Ukraine because they freaking hate him.

The good news are that Russia has 70% more rare earth minerals than Ukraine and they are willing to sign a deal !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[krichton]

Pffft. You think Trump is a traitor because he prevented the coronation of Queen Hillary.

I told you why the rare-earth deal is the best and only chance at peace. You and your death cult refuse to consider it because you just want people killed, and you don't give a shit if they're Russian, Ukrainian, or American.

The fact that Hillary Clinton is living rent free in your mind even though she hasn't been in politics for the last 8 years shows how partisan and tribalistic you are.

Can I ask you one simple question? Even if Zelensky signed the deal, why on earth, would Putin allow the US to set up shop in Ukraine, which would take a year or longer. What's he getting out of it, exactly? lol. What incentive does Putin have to stop raining bombs on Ukraine. If he never stops the invasion, there is no reason why US companies to build a single damn thing in Ukraine in order to mine minerals. You'll never answer this question because it's not written on the script they hand to read.

Moreover, how does anything about minerals address a single thing I referenced about Trump crippling Ukraine's ability to target russians with their missiles? What does minerals have to do with banning britain from helping Ukraine? I know you probably don't have a script to help you answer this, but think about it on your own and come up with answer.

 

[daveman]

^^^ Exactly what a rube gas lighter would say.

You bore the shit out of me, Pony Boi.

 

[marvin martian]

Vietnam outlasted the strongest military on the planet. How? With support from Russia and China.

They were given the military hardware needed to win that war.

There’s no reason that Ukraine can’t do the same against a far lesser opponent given the resources required

What's your endgame? Russia surrenders and becomes a Ukrainian colony? Ukraine destroys all the major Russian cities? Nukes? Do tell...

 

[daveman]

The fact that Hillary Clinton is living rent free in your mind even though she hasn't been in politics for the last 8 years shows how partisan and tribalistic you are.

Yeah, yeah. You wept bitter tears when she lost. I know it. You know it. Tough shit.

Can I ask you one simple question? Even if Zelensky signed the deal, why on earth, would Putin allow the US to set up shop in Ukraine, which would take a year or longer. What's he getting out of it, exactly? lol. What incentive does Putin have to stop raining bombs on Ukraine. If he never stops the invasion, there is no reason why US companies to build a single damn thing in Ukraine in order to mine minerals. You'll never answer this question because it's not written on the script they hand to read.

What would Putin do to stop it? Attacking American civilians is not a good thing, and would be met with fierce reprisal.

Oh, look, an answer! Guess your bullshit about a script is just projection.

Moreover, how does anything about minerals address a single thing I referenced about Trump crippling Ukraine's ability to target russians with their missiles? What does minerals have to do with banning britain from helping Ukraine? I know you probably don't have a script to help you answer this, but think about it on your own and come up with answer.

Boy, your bullshit is getting tiresome. It's hilarious how you say crap like this and expect to be taken seriously.

I've repeatedly answered your questions. That you don't like the answers is your problem.

I get it. You want war. You want people killed, and you don't care who. You're just a bloody-minded little ***** who gets off on casualty figures and refuses to put some skin in the game.

Enlist in the Ukraine army, or shut the **** up, boy.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You bore the shit out of me, Pony Boi.

That's why you hang on my every word.

Is there a chance for a cartel of western European nations to make a deal for Ukraine's precious earth and rare metals?

Ukraine's rare earth and critical minerals have indeed become a focal point in international diplomacy. Both the European Union and the United States have expressed interest in partnering with Ukraine to access its vast reserves of critical minerals, which are essential for modern technologies like electric vehicles, renewable energy, and military applications2.

The European Union has proposed a "win-win" partnership with Ukraine, emphasizing mutual benefits and avoiding exploitative terms. Ukraine holds deposits of 22 out of 34 minerals classified as critical by the EU, including lithium, titanium, and rare earth elements like neodymium and erbium4. However, much of these resources are located in areas affected by the ongoing conflict with Russia, complicating extraction and development5.

While there is no evidence of a formal "cartel" forming among Western European nations, the strategic importance of these resources could lead to collaborative agreements or partnerships in the future. The geopolitical stakes are high, and any such deals would likely involve careful negotiations to balance economic, environmental, and security concerns.

1FOX News | MSN2OilPrice.com 3 www.politico.eu 4 www.aljazeera.com 5unric.org

 

[krichton]

Yeah, yeah. You wept bitter tears when she lost. I know it. You know it. Tough shit.

What would Putin do to stop it? Attacking American civilians is not a good thing, and would be met with fierce reprisal.

Oh, look, an answer! Guess your bullshit about a script is just projection.

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Boy, your bullshit is getting tiresome. It's hilarious how you say crap like this and expect to be taken seriously.

I've repeatedly answered your questions. That you don't like the answers is your problem.

I get it. You want war. You want people killed, and you don't care who. You're just a bloody-minded little ***** who gets off on casualty figures and refuses to put some skin in the game.

Enlist in the Ukraine army, or shut the **** up, boy.

I just told you what Putin would do, simply what he's been doing these last 3 years, continue fighting. He has refused any concession. And you're telling me that civilian contractors would happily enter the warzone to mine minerals with the war still ongoing? What company do you know of would risk the liability? It makes zero sense. You really don't have an actual answer. You're still just reading off your script because you're so indoctrinated. Also, is invoking Hillary's name like some sort catch all comebacker for Maga when you don't know what to say next or how to reply? Because you've completely deflected and avoided the whole Trump betraying Ukraine part I was actually talking about by bringing up minerals.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

At least is not using the TDS mantra, which would be met with