Dems lead Zelensky, Ukraine off a cliff with pressure to reject mineral deal

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https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-harris-election-09-15-24/index.html

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/kremlin-alleged-trump-shooters-ukrainian-links-playing-with-fire-has-2024-09-16/

Ryan Wesley Routh decried Donald Trump as an “idiot,” a “buffoon” and a “fool” in his self-published book on the war in Ukraine and geopolitics

That sounds like most of the libs posting on this forum

 

[hadit]

That was all Trump's doing.

And the FBI insurgency against Patel continues.

Wow, now TRUMP! is responsible for what democrats persuaded the Z-man to do. We always knew he was incredibly powerful, but that's quite a bit.

 

[daveman]

I just told you what Putin would do, simply what he's been doing these last 3 years, continue fighting. He has refused any concession. And you're telling me that civilian contractors would happily enter the warzone to mine minerals with the war still ongoing? What company do you know of would risk the liability? It makes zero sense. You really don't have an actual answer. You're still just reading off your script because you're so indoctrinated. Also, is invoking Hillary's name like some sort catch all comebacker for Maga when you don't know what to say next or how to reply? Because you've completely deflected and avoided the whole Trump betraying Ukraine part I was actually talking about by bringing up minerals.

Next time you ask questions, make sure you detail the only answers you'll accept so nobody wastes their time with you.

You want the war to go on. Endlessly. But you won't un-ass the couch to go kill people yourself. You want other people to die so you can feel all generous.

There is something terribly, terribly wrong with you.

 

[scruffy]

Turns out most of the Ukrainian rare earths are unmineable.

 

[eagle1462010]

Turns out most of the Ukrainian rare earths are unmineable.

Why?

 

[scruffy]

Why?

Too difficult and expensive to process.

Too many impurities.

 

[krichton]

Next time you ask questions, make sure you detail the only answers you'll accept so nobody wastes their time with you.

You want the war to go on. Endlessly. But you won't un-ass the couch to go kill people yourself. You want other people to die so you can feel all generous.

There is something terribly, terribly wrong with you.

You haven't given me any answers to my question, you've just ignored or deflected it by yelling, HILLARY CLINTON!!!

This is where your ignorance of Russia renders your support of them completely impotent. The Russian economy is on the brink of collapse, their military power and army has been decimated. There is no scenario in which the war would go on "endlessly." The only reason why it has lasted this long is the lack of steadfast support for Ukraine. Biden was slow to deliver tanks, IFVs, planes, HIMARS, he didn't allow long range missiles being used from our military or any other, he forbade Ukraine to take US weapons into Russian territory, etc., etc.

There is something terribly, terribly wrong with a person who couldn't care less about a war, but pretends to take up the cause of ending it, on a fake narrative being fed by a foreign enemy and his stooges here in America.

 

[daveman]

You haven't given me any answers to my question, you've just ignored or deflected it by yelling, HILLARY CLINTON!!!

This is where your ignorance of Russia renders your support of them completely impotent. The Russian economy is on the brink of collapse, their military power and army has been decimated. There is no scenario in which the war would go on "endlessly." The only reason why it has lasted this long is the lack of steadfast support for Ukraine. Biden was slow to deliver tanks, IFVs, planes, HIMARS, he didn't allow long range missiles being used from our military or any other, he forbade Ukraine to take US weapons into Russian territory, etc., etc.

There is something terribly, terribly wrong with a person who couldn't care less about a war, but pretends to take up the cause of ending it, on a fake narrative being fed by a foreign enemy and his stooges here in America.

Ahh, I see the problem. You're ******* illiterate.

Over and over I've said I want the war to end. You somehow believe that means I want it to continue.

You're dishonest. I'm done with you.

You may now predictably flounce off and claim you won the argument. We both know you're going to.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Ahh, I see the problem. You're ******* illiterate.

Over and over I've said I want the war to end. You somehow believe that means I want it to continue.

You're dishonest. I'm done with you.

You may now predictably flounce off and claim you won the argument. We both know you're going to.

You surrendered, so, yes, he won.

You support the Russians.

 

[eagle1462010]

You surrendered, so, yes, he won.

You support the Russians.

So you admit the limp dick militaries of Europe are no match for the Bear

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

So you admit the limp dick militaries of Europe are no match for the Bear

They will be in a year. So the Bear better grab what he can because they will kill it.

 

[eagle1462010]

They will be in a year. So the Bear better grab what he can because they will kill it.

Again. You have been in the cheap seats.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Again. You have been in the cheap seats.

I know of what I talk. Been friends with people in Pentagon for decades who have a pretty good idea what is going on. Europe will rear. Now.

 

[eagle1462010]

I know of what I talk. Been friends with people in Pentagon for decades who have a pretty good idea what is going on. Europe will rear. Now.

They been using us forever. Thats the damn point

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

They been using us forever. Thats the damn point

So that's over, and Russia now will be defeated, demilitarized, denazified, and dismantled.

 

[krichton]

Ahh, I see the problem. You're ******* illiterate.

Over and over I've said I want the war to end. You somehow believe that means I want it to continue.

You're dishonest. I'm done with you.

You may now predictably flounce off and claim you won the argument. We both know you're going to.

Yes, you've said many times you want the war to end, because it's what you've been told to care about by Russian stooges here in America, who have taken money from Russian operatives. You're not the first I've heard this from, and it's always followed up with fearmongering of WW3, nuclear War and the oh so familiar, "I want the killing to stop" with a cry emoji You people are nothing more than just drones, to push russian and right wing propaganda, you just don't know it, or maybe you do. I'd bet anything you couldn't care less if Ukraine and Russia kill each other. The fact that you support a president who underhandedly and despicably goes around and tells other allies they shouldn't help ally X, because we want Russia to destroy Ukraine demonstrates this without a single doubt. That's why when I originally pointed this out, you honestly couldn't reply with a real answer, so you defaulted to your natural programming and started talking about HILLARY CLINTON and then minerals in the same reply in post #170

 

[daveman]

Yes, you've said many times you want the war to end, because it's what you've been told to care about by Russian stooges here in America, who have taken money from Russian operatives. You're not the first I've heard this from, and it's always followed up with fearmongering of WW3, nuclear War and the oh so familiar, "I want the killing to stop" with a cry emoji You people are nothing more than just drones, to push russian and right wing propaganda, you just don't know it, or maybe you do. I'd bet anything you couldn't care less if Ukraine and Russia kill each other. The fact that you support a president who underhandedly and despicably goes around and tells other allies they shouldn't help ally X, because we want Russia to destroy Ukraine demonstrates this without a single doubt. That's why when I originally pointed this out, you honestly couldn't reply with a real answer, so you defaulted to your natural programming and started talking about HILLARY CLINTON and then minerals in the same reply in post #170

Yup, I called it.

"You may now predictably flounce off and claim you won the argument. We both know you're going to."

 

[krichton]

Yup, I called it.

"You may now predictably flounce off and claim you won the argument. We both know you're going to."

i never claimed I "won any argument" but the fact that you want to project this shows you know you can't rebut a single thing I've said.

 

[daveman]

i never claimed I "won any argument" but the fact that you want to project this shows you know you can't rebut a single thing I've said.

No, it means you will not consider any information that doesn't support your preconceived notions.

You're closed-minded. You don't want debate; you want immediate and unquestioning affirmation and endorsement.

How's that working out for you?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Yup, I called it.

"You may now predictably flounce off and claim you won the argument. We both know you're going to."

Yes, he called you out, you fell for it, and you failed.

Russia is not our buddy, our friend, our ally, daveman.

They have been our enemy since 1918.