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we KNOW what a republic is as well. , and it was a failed experiment by the romans in class warfare and oligarchy. the senate was not elected, but consisted of the heads of the patrician familiesWrong.
We KNOW what a "democracy" is, and it was a failed experiment by the ancient Greeks in Athens, where everyone had to vote on any and all legislation directly.
That is mob rule and leads to lynchings, slavery, burning witches, etc.
When someone now say democracy, they actually mean "democratically elected, representative, republic.
But the most significant aspect is "republic", and everyone should be taught that.
For a long time, I thought that they were consumed by this "we're not a democracy" thing just because they were trying to sound smart about the differences between a pure democracy and a republic.we KNOW what a republic is as well. , and it was a failed experiment by the romans in class warfare and oligarchy. the senate was not elected, but consisted of the heads of the patrician families
our system is is quite unique, and certainly designed to protect status quo.
i first heard this "democracy/republic " thing out of libertarians in the 1970s. they may have had "mob rule" concerns but this current bunch seem to thrive in a mob rule environment.For a long time, I thought that they were consumed by this "we're not a democracy" thing just because they were trying to sound smart about the differences between a pure democracy and a republic.
I've changed my mind on that one. It appears that they're trying to downplay the importance of the vote. An authoritarian wants to remove control from the voters and hand it to a strongman and his underlings.
I'm not sure where this started, but it sure is catching on.
/——/ We do. We care about anyone who calls out your communist propaganda, Rumphole.Who the fuck gives one turd about you?
wow, even Mac doesn't know the United States is a representative republic. Now, there you go. Explains it all.i first heard this "democracy/republic " thing out of libertarians in the 1970s. they may have had "mob rule" concerns but this current bunch seem to thrive in a mob rule environment.
so what so we know about the behavior of "mobs.....? "
No quotes, fail. .Been there done that freak, see post 291. Oh and I forgot one in that post, "Jury", see Article 3, Section 2. Now once again, take your semantics game and shove it.
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So you don't have the ability to go to another post referenced? wow. I figured you lacked talent, but to demonstrate it is so you!No quotes, fail. .
It's not a semantics game, it's a you missed the point game.
Damn man you really are stupid and ignorant.
Privacy: See the 4th Amendment
Judicial Review: See Article 3 and Marbury v. Madison
Jury and Presumption of Innocence: See the 5th and 6th Amendments
Right to vote: See Articles 1, 2 and the 15th, 23rd, 24th and 26th Amendments
And you can harp about it all fucking day, but the FACT that we only have democracies at the State level won't change.
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I did, and you posted no quotes. Any asshole can say 'article this or that'.So you don't have the ability to go to another post referenced? wow. I figured you lacked talent, but to demonstrate it is so you!
well it wasn't mine. So you won't see anything from me. And the other dude gave you article and sectionI did, and you posted no quotes. Any asshole can say 'article this or that'.
Show me the quotes in the constitution.
You can't.
Fail.
/——/ We do. We care about anyone who calls out your communist propaganda, Rumphole.
or maybe we are attempting to translate from conservative to english.wow, even Mac doesn't know the United States is a representative republic. Now, there you go. Explains it all.
well what is it you don't understand?or maybe we are attempting to translate from conservative to english.
as described vividly in genesis 11, we need a common language to "make america great" ya no.;
Why is this question important?Do we vote?
Yes.
A country that has the vote where the vote is legit is a democracy.
And is also a republic, they are not mutually exclusive terms.
The ONLY reason hard core repubs (not old school repubs) harp on this is because they haven't won the majority in prez elections in 30 fucking years.
Some can argue we are not a very good democracy, and they have a point, but that is not the point.
I rest my case.
Deal with it.
The only reason we wouldn't call ourselves a democracy is if we lost the right to vote and that's kind of important, don't you think?Why is this question important?
What are the implications of the label?
What do we lose if the "other side" gets their way? ie what changes if we call our nation a "democracy" or don't?
Why are you all banging foreheads on this?
/——/ Rumpole isn’t as accurate as calling you Asshole. I was trying to be polite., but if you insist, RUMPHOLE.Do you know why I chose the avatar 'Rumpole'?
Because I knew all the nitwits in the peanut gallery wouldn't be able to resist twisting the name, I did it to find out who the pea brains are.
Now I know.
Thank you for taking the bait.
why it matters"well what is it you don't understand?
/——-/ In a democracy, 51% decide the law of the land. There is no protection for minorities. Three states would choose the president, thereby leaving the rest without representation.Why is this question important?
What are the implications of the label?
What do we lose if the "other side" gets their way? ie what changes if we call our nation a "democracy" or don't?
Why are you all banging foreheads on this?
well, i had hoped it had something to do with the old baily as on the pbs show. but i like the trap idea.Do you know why I chose the avatar 'Rumpole'?
Because I knew all the nitwits in the peanut gallery wouldn't be able to resist twisting the name, I did it to find out who the pea brains are.
Now I know.
Thank you for taking the bait.
I guess if that's how you define "democracy". But there are plenty of other definitions that provide protections for the minority and otherwise mitigate mob rule./——-/ In a democracy, 51% decide the law of the land. There is no protection for minorities. Three states would choose the president, thereby leaving the rest without representation.
51% would vote to reinstate slavery, or deny voting rights for women, or allow children to marry adults. A Republic protects the rights of minorities.
Get it now?
