Demographic Shifts That Are Sinking The Republican Party

[Redfish]

Thus, over time, high-turnout seniors, currently the most conservative part of the electorate by age, will be liberalized as Baby Boomers age. Moreover, the most liberal part of the generation — those born up through 1955 and termed “early Boomers” — is frontloaded, so the political impact on the senior population could be fairly rapid.
So, the changing location, education levels, and age of the electorate suggest why the Republicans’ long-term disadvantages aren’t so bad as most people think. They’re worse.

The Hidden Demographic Shifts That Are Sinking The Republican Party | ThinkProgress

I think this is over-rated.

The Republican Party may have a few difficult years ahead, but the party will adapt like the population does.

Ideas and societal norms change over time, and parties change to reflect those shifts. What was politically acceptable 100 or 50 years ago by both parties often isn't politically acceptable today.

For example, in 10-20 years, gay marriage will be widely accepted in the Republican Party even if it isn't today. The math is simple. Most of the opposition is from old people. Most young people, conservative or liberal, support gay marriage. Eventually, the old people - and the opposition to gay marriage - will die away, and the young people who support gay marriage will become middle-aged and come to dominate the party.

After gay marriage becomes law in a few years and our society does not come crashing down, Republicans will claim that they never opposed gay marriage, they just thought it was a state issue

are you gay, norton. are you and Ralph gay lovers? I don't care what you two do down in the sewer, but your liason is not a marriage.

if you want to sign a mutual support agreement or a civil union contract, great, no one cares. but two men or two women cannot "marry".

 

[guno]

Thus, over time, high-turnout seniors, currently the most conservative part of the electorate by age, will be liberalized as Baby Boomers age. Moreover, the most liberal part of the generation — those born up through 1955 and termed “early Boomers” — is frontloaded, so the political impact on the senior population could be fairly rapid.
So, the changing location, education levels, and age of the electorate suggest why the Republicans’ long-term disadvantages aren’t so bad as most people think. They’re worse.

The Hidden Demographic Shifts That Are Sinking The Republican Party | ThinkProgress

I think this is over-rated.

The Republican Party may have a few difficult years ahead, but the party will adapt like the population does.

Ideas and societal norms change over time, and parties change to reflect those shifts. What was politically acceptable 100 or 50 years ago by both parties often isn't politically acceptable today.

For example, in 10-20 years, gay marriage will be widely accepted in the Republican Party even if it isn't today. The math is simple. Most of the opposition is from old people. Most young people, conservative or liberal, support gay marriage. Eventually, the old people - and the opposition to gay marriage - will die away, and the young people who support gay marriage will become middle-aged and come to dominate the party.

After gay marriage becomes law in a few years and our society does not come crashing down, Republicans will claim that they never opposed gay marriage, they just thought it was a state issue

Even here in NC the republican legislator who pushed the "marriage" act admitted that within 15 years the voter (because the younger generation is come up) will be overturned.

 

[Mac1958]

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Within 25 years, America will be a step or two to the left of modern day France.

Love it or hate it, you can book it.

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[rightwinger]

I think this is over-rated.

The Republican Party may have a few difficult years ahead, but the party will adapt like the population does.

Ideas and societal norms change over time, and parties change to reflect those shifts. What was politically acceptable 100 or 50 years ago by both parties often isn't politically acceptable today.

For example, in 10-20 years, gay marriage will be widely accepted in the Republican Party even if it isn't today. The math is simple. Most of the opposition is from old people. Most young people, conservative or liberal, support gay marriage. Eventually, the old people - and the opposition to gay marriage - will die away, and the young people who support gay marriage will become middle-aged and come to dominate the party.

After gay marriage becomes law in a few years and our society does not come crashing down, Republicans will claim that they never opposed gay marriage, they just thought it was a state issue

are you gay, norton. are you and Ralph gay lovers? I don't care what you two do down in the sewer, but your liason is not a marriage.

if you want to sign a mutual support agreement or a civil union contract, great, no one cares. but two men or two women cannot "marry".

I'm not black, but I supported Civil Rights

Because it is the right thing to do

 

[Derideo_Te]

Historically people don't get more "liberal" as they age they get more "conservative",

No. Individuals tend to get more liberal as they age. Older people are more conservative, but that's because their whole generation started out that way. Even those old conservative people were much more conservative when they were younger.

Busting Myth, People Turn More Liberal With Age | LiveScience

The availability of information to the older "conservatives" was more limited, comprising of mainly newspapers, TV, radio and magazines and that was largely a one way medium. Today's Boomers and Millenials have access to the Internet and that is far more interactive and immediate. The faster pace, greater access and immediate feedback is changing how people think and react to situations.

Greater access to information is a liberalizing force in society.

 

[rightwinger]

I think this is over-rated.

The Republican Party may have a few difficult years ahead, but the party will adapt like the population does.

Ideas and societal norms change over time, and parties change to reflect those shifts. What was politically acceptable 100 or 50 years ago by both parties often isn't politically acceptable today.

For example, in 10-20 years, gay marriage will be widely accepted in the Republican Party even if it isn't today. The math is simple. Most of the opposition is from old people. Most young people, conservative or liberal, support gay marriage. Eventually, the old people - and the opposition to gay marriage - will die away, and the young people who support gay marriage will become middle-aged and come to dominate the party.

After gay marriage becomes law in a few years and our society does not come crashing down, Republicans will claim that they never opposed gay marriage, they just thought it was a state issue

Even here in NC the republican legislator who pushed the "marriage" act admitted that within 15 years the voter (because the younger generation is come up) will be overturned.

It won't matter

Within 5 years the Supreme Court will declare it a right for all Amercans regardless of State

 

[The Rabbi]

"We lost because of demographic mathematics," said Morris, who famously predicted days before the November 2012 election that Mitt Romney would win in a landslide. Morris appeared before a room of at least 50 people at CPAC, one of the biggest annual conservative political gatherings, hosted by American Conservative Union.

To fix this problem, Morris urged Republicans to pass immigration reform immediately. Once the immigration issue is out of the way, he argued, Latinos would embrace the conservative values, switch sides and ultimately become "the salvation of the Republican Party."

But immigration reform, even with a path to citizenship that Morris supports, is not the tough sell to conservatives that it once was.

The harder sell came in his next prescription: Give up on Roe v. Wade.

Dick Morris Delivers Bad News To Republicans: Give Up On Roe V. Wade

If the republican party has any chance of winning they have to ditch the bible thumping kooks and teahadists

Yes just what we need--another ill informed liberal telling us how to win elections.
Here's an idea: stick it up your ass.

Ill informed? The demographic shift is taking place and the racist hatred shown by the republican party is assuring their death in the long run unless they change. its time for them to ditch the neo confederates , teahadists and bible thumpers

America's Demographic Shift And 7 Ways Leaders Can Leverage It - Forbes

You dont get it. Democrats are the racists here. Look at the worst inner city shitholes delivering substandard jim crow era services to cowed and dependent populations. Yup, every one of them run by Democrats.
Which party supports choice for parents to get their kids out of failing schools? Which party supports policies that will increase employment? Which party thinks people ought to have a chance to start work? Which party is against the murder of black babies? That's the GOP, dunce.

 

[Freewill]

After gay marriage becomes law in a few years and our society does not come crashing down, Republicans will claim that they never opposed gay marriage, they just thought it was a state issue

Even here in NC the republican legislator who pushed the "marriage" act admitted that within 15 years the voter (because the younger generation is come up) will be overturned.

It won't matter

Within 5 years the Supreme Court will declare it a right for all Amercans regardless of State

And then anyone will get to marry whomever they so desire? No limits?

 

[The Rabbi]

Even here in NC the republican legislator who pushed the "marriage" act admitted that within 15 years the voter (because the younger generation is come up) will be overturned.

It won't matter

Within 5 years the Supreme Court will declare it a right for all Amercans regardless of State

And then anyone will get to marry whomever they so desire? No limits?

They will. Polygamy. Polyamory. Underage marriage. Marriage of convenience via internet sites. There is absolutely no argument that can stand against them once gay marriage is admitted. And once that happens marriage ceases to have any meaning outside of religious life. Which is probably the goal of the gay agenda to begin with.

 

[Toro]

Why is gay marriage such a big issue with you libs? Why is the word "marriage" so critical?

I know the reason, its not about equality and tolerance its about government forced societal change. Thats the objection from many on the right, the govt telling us what we MUST believe. Thats not freedom, thats tyranny. But you lefties are OK with tyranny when it is forciing your views on everyone else, wonder how you would feel if it was reversed i.e. be careful what you wish for, those in power can change over time.

Thanks for that irrelevant rant.

In the meantime, gay marriage is becoming the law of the land, just like inter-racial marriage before that.

 

[rightwinger]

Even here in NC the republican legislator who pushed the "marriage" act admitted that within 15 years the voter (because the younger generation is come up) will be overturned.

It won't matter

Within 5 years the Supreme Court will declare it a right for all Amercans regardless of State

And then anyone will get to marry whomever they so desire? No limits?

Massachusetts has had gay marriage for ten years.......yet they haven't moved to incest or bestiality

 

[The Rabbi]

It won't matter

Within 5 years the Supreme Court will declare it a right for all Amercans regardless of State

And then anyone will get to marry whomever they so desire? No limits?

Massachusetts has had gay marriage for ten years.......yet they haven't moved to incest or bestiality

Yet.
Utah has a polygamy case coming to the courts. Want to bet how that turns out?

 

[rightwinger]

And then anyone will get to marry whomever they so desire? No limits?

Massachusetts has had gay marriage for ten years.......yet they haven't moved to incest or bestiality

Yet.
Utah has a polygamy case coming to the courts. Want to bet how that turns out?

We will see

Utah has been struggling with polygamy for 150 years.....doesn't seem to be tied to gay marriage

Personally, I don't care how many wives you have
Doesnt hurt me

 

[The Rabbi]

Massachusetts has had gay marriage for ten years.......yet they haven't moved to incest or bestiality

Yet.
Utah has a polygamy case coming to the courts. Want to bet how that turns out?

We will see

Utah has been struggling with polygamy for 150 years.....doesn't seem to be tied to gay marriage

Personally, I don't care how many wives you have
Doesnt hurt me

If you dont care why are you pushing gay marriage? How does gay marriage help you?

 

[Katzndogz]

It won't matter

Within 5 years the Supreme Court will declare it a right for all Amercans regardless of State

And then anyone will get to marry whomever they so desire? No limits?

Massachusetts has had gay marriage for ten years.......yet they haven't moved to incest or bestiality

Because if those who support incest or bestiality made their demands too early, same sex marriage acceptance would never move beyond Massachusetts. Same sex marriage has been legal throughout Sweden, Germany and Denmark, who have fully legal animal brothels.

 

[natstew]

I hope the new population would look towards science, education, r&D and logic. If not then we're fucked.

Based upon what's coming out of our Public schools -- we're fucked

Like this: Illinois Middle School Workbook: Second Amendment is for ?Certain Weapons? that are ?Registered?

This is equal to treason, the left is trying to take away our last defense against a tyrannical Government, and they are doing it by poisoning our children with false information about our forefathers and the Constitution they gave us.

 

[Nyvin]

Republicans always just point to current events to see positives, such as "evil obamacare" or low labor participation rates, or low growth or something else...Those are all temporary, short term events that might win a few seats in the next immediate election, but in the long term their prospects get worse and worse and worse.

I think I read a good quote on this that sums up the situation, by a republican strategist no less: "We (the GOP) are in a demographic boa constrictor...and it's getting tighter every election"

 

[Nyvin]

And then anyone will get to marry whomever they so desire? No limits?

Massachusetts has had gay marriage for ten years.......yet they haven't moved to incest or bestiality

Because if those who support incest or bestiality made their demands too early, same sex marriage acceptance would never move beyond Massachusetts. Same sex marriage has been legal throughout Sweden, Germany and Denmark, who have fully legal animal brothels.

Same sex marriage is not legal in Germany. Denmark has only had legal same sex marriage since mid-2012.

 

[hangover]

Thus, over time, high-turnout seniors, currently the most conservative part of the electorate by age, will be liberalized as Baby Boomers age. Moreover, the most liberal part of the generation — those born up through 1955 and termed “early Boomers” — is frontloaded, so the political impact on the senior population could be fairly rapid.
So, the changing location, education levels, and age of the electorate suggest why the Republicans’ long-term disadvantages aren’t so bad as most people think. They’re worse.

The Hidden Demographic Shifts That Are Sinking The Republican Party | ThinkProgress

"We lost because of demographic mathematics," said Morris, who famously predicted days before the November 2012 election that Mitt Romney would win in a landslide. Morris appeared before a room of at least 50 people at CPAC, one of the biggest annual conservative political gatherings, hosted by American Conservative Union.

To fix this problem, Morris urged Republicans to pass immigration reform immediately. Once the immigration issue is out of the way, he argued, Latinos would embrace the conservative values, switch sides and ultimately become "the salvation of the Republican Party."

But immigration reform, even with a path to citizenship that Morris supports, is not the tough sell to conservatives that it once was.

The harder sell came in his next prescription: Give up on Roe v. Wade.

Dick Morris Delivers Bad News To Republicans: Give Up On Roe V. Wade

If the republican party has any chance of winning they have to ditch the bible thumping kooks and teahadists

Yes just what we need--another ill informed liberal telling us how to win elections.
Here's an idea: stick it up your ass.

Con credibility and integrity.....
Raygun tripled the national debt after promising to balance the budget.
Shrub daddy doubled in again in only four years.
Shrub Jr. doubled it again, adding more than all presidents put together in American history. And destroyed the U.S. economy and the global economy.
For five years they've been crying for fiscal responsibility. So all they've got is playground banter for their argument.

 

[The Rabbi]

Republicans always just point to current events to see positives, such as "evil obamacare" or low labor participation rates, or low growth or something else...Those are all temporary, short term events that might win a few seats in the next immediate election, but in the long term their prospects get worse and worse and worse.

I think I read a good quote on this that sums up the situation, by a republican strategist no less: "We (the GOP) are in a demographic boa constrictor...and it's getting tighter every election"

And Democrats don't?
The truth is we are a less globally competitive country than we were. We are less militarily powerful than we were. We are less influential in the world than we were.
The truth is the Dems are the ones with problems. The approval rate of Obama in the 18-21 year old range is much lower than older demographics. And approval for Dem economic policies ought to be even lower, as recent college grads suffer nearly 50% unemployment/underempoyment.