Democrats Take California To Hell

[Manonthestreet]

And everybody has known for years that pumping CO2 into the air will be very bad for future generations.

Funny didnt US meet its Kyoto goals ..........

 

[Flopper]

WTF do forest fires and floods have to do with Democrats or hell?

California was advised FOR YEARS to clean up its forests.

Do you have any idea of what it would cost keeping 33 million acres of forest free from under brush and overcrowding and that does not even address the brush fires. Nobody was suggesting all our forest land be cleaned up only selected areas close to heavy developed areas. However, that does not fix the problem, it just lessens property damage. Oregon and Washington have the same problem although not as bad yet. Arizona, Nevada, Utah, Colorado, Wyoming, Montana have also been hit this summer.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

WTF do forest fires and floods have to do with Democrats or hell?

California was advised FOR YEARS to clean up its forests.

Do you have any idea of what it would cost keeping 33 million acres of forest free from under brush and overcrowding and that does not even address the brush fires.

What's it gonna cost to rebuild and set people's lives straight? Were I an insurance company, I'd not do business in California.

 

[candycorn]

Apocalyptic Orange Haze And Darkness Blanket California Amid Fires

The responsibility lies with those who for over 20 years have failed to respond to global warming, have fought to pass the buck, claimed it's a hoax, and just normal weather patterns. The above is not a hoax and is certainly not normal. You're going to find the reward for your hard work is going to be a bitter bill to swallow. .

No. It lies with the California state government that has been warned for years to maintain its forests. They didn't.

Your statement is a lie.

Trump blames California for wildfires, but many of the worst have been on federal land

Many of the largest and worst fires in the state were on federal land.

www.redding.com

No, it's not. Support your contention.

The bureau of land management is responsible for federal forest land; not the State of California. The federal lands are some of the areas that are burning. So your blob is responsible for any fire on federal land.

PS: They don't "comb" the federal lands either. The NFS/NPS/BLM laughed off the suggestion as did every one else.

 

[candycorn]

WTF do forest fires and floods have to do with Democrats or hell?

California was advised FOR YEARS to clean up its forests.

Do you have any idea of what it would cost keeping 33 million acres of forest free from under brush and overcrowding and that does not even address the brush fires. Nobody was suggesting all our forest land be cleaned up only selected areas close to heavy developed areas. However, that does not fix the problem, it just lessens property damage. Oregon and Washington have the same problem although not as bad yet. Arizona, Nevada, Utah, Colorado, Wyoming, Montana have also been hit this summer.

Billy has zero idea what he is talking about. He looks like a fucking idiot.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Apocalyptic Orange Haze And Darkness Blanket California Amid Fires

The responsibility lies with those who for over 20 years have failed to respond to global warming, have fought to pass the buck, claimed it's a hoax, and just normal weather patterns. The above is not a hoax and is certainly not normal. You're going to find the reward for your hard work is going to be a bitter bill to swallow. .

Will you never wise up?
Free yourself from the illusion that climate change has anything to do with the environment. It is, de facto, the way they distribute the world's wealth. Mostly, our wealth...

 

[Flopper]

WTF do forest fires and floods have to do with Democrats or hell?

The greenie-dems in calif wont allow the cleaning up of deadwood in the forests. That leaves so much fuel that the fires become unstoppable!

Yet another brilliant democrat move! Almost as good as putting covid patients into nursing homes!

Cleanup the forest

WTF do forest fires and floods have to do with Democrats or hell?

The greenie-dems in calif wont allow the cleaning up of deadwood in the forests. That leaves so much fuel that the fires become unstoppable!

Yet another brilliant democrat move! Almost as good as putting covid patients into nursing homes!

If you have ever been in a heavy forested area away from the cities, you would understand there is hell of lot more involve than running around and picking up a few dead limbs here and there. There are 33 million acres in California and over 170 million in western states. I have spend a large part of my life hiking in the Northwest. When you get away from the cities, the forest are dense, with few trails and occasional forest service road. You don't walk through these forests except on trails, you climb, crawl, and cut your way through. Cleaning up the forest is limited to areas around property developments and roads because of cost.

When you clean out a natural forest of deadwood, dead vines. and bushes, thinning out overpopulated area, you end up with a manicured forest which is what see in some state, county, and cities parks around cities. There are many forest parks like this in Europe. There're very nice to walk through but they are not natural. They are devoid of most wildlife, lack the erosion protection from bushes and ground cover, and have to be cleaned and manured regularly.

 

[Thunk]

If you have ever been in a heavy forested area away from the cities, you would understand there is hell of lot more involve than running around and picking up a few dead limbs here and there.

Did you thunk Minnesota was all concrete & tall buildings?

 

[Elton]

Apocalyptic Orange Haze And Darkness Blanket California Amid Fires

That smoke has blown into Reno here and it is both beautiful, and sucky at the same time.

 

[Flopper]

WTF do forest fires and floods have to do with Democrats or hell?

California was advised FOR YEARS to clean up its forests.

Do you have any idea of what it would cost keeping 33 million acres of forest free from under brush and overcrowding and that does not even address the brush fires. Nobody was suggesting all our forest land be cleaned up only selected areas close to heavy developed areas. However, that does not fix the problem, it just lessens property damage. Oregon and Washington have the same problem although not as bad yet. Arizona, Nevada, Utah, Colorado, Wyoming, Montana have also been hit this summer.

California spent 195 million cleaning up state forest last year and they need a lot more to have a major impact on the fires. Part the problem is 60% of forest are controlled by the federal government who are not spending near as much as the state.

 

[Elton]

WTF do forest fires and floods have to do with Democrats or hell?

The greenie-dems in calif wont allow the cleaning up of deadwood in the forests. That leaves so much fuel that the fires become unstoppable!

Yet another brilliant democrat move! Almost as good as putting covid patients into nursing homes!

Cleanup the forest

WTF do forest fires and floods have to do with Democrats or hell?

The greenie-dems in calif wont allow the cleaning up of deadwood in the forests. That leaves so much fuel that the fires become unstoppable!

Yet another brilliant democrat move! Almost as good as putting covid patients into nursing homes!

If you have ever been in a heavy forested area away from the cities, you would understand there is hell of lot more involve than running around and picking up a few dead limbs here and there. There are 33 million acres in California and over 170 million in western states. I have spend a large part of my life hiking in the Northwest. When you get away from the cities, the forest are dense, with few trails and occasional forest service road. You don't walk through these forests except on trails, you climb, crawl, and cut your way through. Cleaning up the forest is limited to areas around property developments and roads because of cost.

When you clean out a natural forest of deadwood, dead vines. and bushes, thinning out overpopulated area, you end up with a manicured forest which is what see in some state, county, and cities parks around cities. There are many forest parks like this in Europe. There're very nice to walk through but they are not natural. They are devoid of most wildlife, lack the erosion protection from bushes and ground cover, and have to be cleaned and manured regularly.

That's true, but the Sierra Club and their like have made it impossible to clear away deadfall. That's why these fires are getting worse and worse.

 

[Flopper]

Apocalyptic Orange Haze And Darkness Blanket California Amid Fires

That smoke has blown into Reno here and it is both beautiful, and sucky at the same time.

In most of Oregon and Washington, the air quality is not good. Smoke is coming up from California adding to the smoke from local fires.

 

[Flopper]

WTF do forest fires and floods have to do with Democrats or hell?

The greenie-dems in calif wont allow the cleaning up of deadwood in the forests. That leaves so much fuel that the fires become unstoppable!

Yet another brilliant democrat move! Almost as good as putting covid patients into nursing homes!

Cleanup the forest

WTF do forest fires and floods have to do with Democrats or hell?

The greenie-dems in calif wont allow the cleaning up of deadwood in the forests. That leaves so much fuel that the fires become unstoppable!

Yet another brilliant democrat move! Almost as good as putting covid patients into nursing homes!

If you have ever been in a heavy forested area away from the cities, you would understand there is hell of lot more involve than running around and picking up a few dead limbs here and there. There are 33 million acres in California and over 170 million in western states. I have spend a large part of my life hiking in the Northwest. When you get away from the cities, the forest are dense, with few trails and occasional forest service road. You don't walk through these forests except on trails, you climb, crawl, and cut your way through. Cleaning up the forest is limited to areas around property developments and roads because of cost.

When you clean out a natural forest of deadwood, dead vines. and bushes, thinning out overpopulated area, you end up with a manicured forest which is what see in some state, county, and cities parks around cities. There are many forest parks like this in Europe. There're very nice to walk through but they are not natural. They are devoid of most wildlife, lack the erosion protection from bushes and ground cover, and have to be cleaned and manured regularly.

That's true, but the Sierra Club and their like have made it impossible to clear away deadfall. That's why these fires are getting worse and worse.

The state is spending 195 million a year somewhere cleaning up state forest. I suppose the Sierra Club is concerned about the loss of wildlife. You can't remove old growth, deadwood, dead brushes and vines and thin overpopulated areas without a major impact on wildlife.

 

[Quasar44]

Apocalyptic Orange Haze And Darkness Blanket California Amid Fires

California went from paradise to a “ 4th world hell hole “ in only 30 yrs

 

[2aguy]

Apocalyptic Orange Haze And Darkness Blanket California Amid Fires

The democrat party would rather rule in hell than live in heaven......

 

[2aguy]

Apocalyptic Orange Haze And Darkness Blanket California Amid Fires

The responsibility lies with those who for over 20 years have failed to respond to global warming, have fought to pass the buck, claimed it's a hoax, and just normal weather patterns. The above is not a hoax and is certainly not normal. You're going to find the reward for your hard work is going to be a bitter bill to swallow. .

This has nothing to do with global warming......the democrat party refuses to take care of the over grown forests so you get massive fires whenever it gets too dry in the state...you doofus.

 

[Zorro!]

Apocalyptic Orange Haze And Darkness Blanket California Amid Fires

But we can't log the forest in a sustainable manner like we did for generations, cuz, spotted owls. Is there CO2 in all that fire smoke?

Now for the heroes.

God bless those Cali NG rotorheads. Reportedly, CalFire was telling the trapped people to wade into a local pond to escape the flames. Yes, that's right, while they were screaming for rescue, Cal officials actually told them to go jump in a lake. The National Guard said “Not today, fellows”. Heroes one and all.

 

[Quasar44]

And everybody has known for years that pumping CO2 into the air will be very bad for future generations.

Funny didnt US meet its Kyoto goals ..........

The mass exodus out of California is turning red states Purple

 

[Flopper]

Apocalyptic Orange Haze And Darkness Blanket California Amid Fires

The responsibility lies with those who for over 20 years have failed to respond to global warming, have fought to pass the buck, claimed it's a hoax, and just normal weather patterns. The above is not a hoax and is certainly not normal. You're going to find the reward for your hard work is going to be a bitter bill to swallow. .

No. It lies with the California state government that has been warned for years to maintain its forests. They didn't.

Your statement is a lie.

Trump blames California for wildfires, but many of the worst have been on federal land

Many of the largest and worst fires in the state were on federal land.

www.redding.com

No, it's not. Support your contention.

The bureau of land management is responsible for federal forest land; not the State of California. The federal lands are some of the areas that are burning. So your blob is responsible for any fire on federal land.

PS: They don't "comb" the federal lands either. The NFS/NPS/BLM laughed off the suggestion as did every one else.

Cleaning up the forest, ie. removing deadwood, brush, and thinning the forest is mitigation just like building higher levees and dykes to prevent flooding due to sea rise. It does not solve the problem. Cleanup will have unintended ecological consequences on wildlife and our forest in general. Plus there is another issue. In America, there are over 800 million acres of forest and the cost of cleaning them and keeping them clean would be externally costly. Currently the plan is to cleanup selected areas where risk to lives and property seem high but this is just a guessing game and as droughts, temperatures, and winds continue to worsen, cleanup which only helps prevent the spread, will become less effective. Cleanup does have a place in managing forests areas around populated places, but we need real solutions to the underlying problem.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Apocalyptic Orange Haze And Darkness Blanket California Amid Fires

The responsibility lies with those who for over 20 years have failed to respond to global warming, have fought to pass the buck, claimed it's a hoax, and just normal weather patterns. The above is not a hoax and is certainly not normal. You're going to find the reward for your hard work is going to be a bitter bill to swallow. .

No. It lies with the California state government that has been warned for years to maintain its forests. They didn't.

Your statement is a lie.

Trump blames California for wildfires, but many of the worst have been on federal land

Many of the largest and worst fires in the state were on federal land.

www.redding.com

No, it's not. Support your contention.

The bureau of land management is responsible for federal forest land; not the State of California. The federal lands are some of the areas that are burning. So your blob is responsible for any fire on federal land.

PS: They don't "comb" the federal lands either. The NFS/NPS/BLM laughed off the suggestion as did every one else.

Cleaning up the forest, ie. removing deadwood, brush, and thinning the forest is mitigation just like building higher levees and dykes to prevent flooding due to sea rise. It does not solve the problem. Cleanup will have unintended ecological consequences on wildlife and our forest in general.

So will fires.