Democrats propose "transaction tax" on financial transactions. (Poll)

[pknopp]

so your solution is to continue doing it??

better to stop it and lower taxs,,,

Where did I do that and more importantly as I've noted over and over, when someone actually does that I'll take it seriously.

so youre going to sit there and complain waiting for others to solve the problems you complain about and until then just keep taxing people

Should I take over the entire process? Cool.

I support what I claim to support and do not make lame excuses for what I pretend to not support. I've already noted this 3-4 times. I support paying for things. This is a way to pay for things so why would I not support it?

I support gutting or eliminating unneeded and wasteful government spending. In My estimate, a full 60% of the government could be cut and we'd be better off as a nation and society.

Then there would be less need to confiscate the labor of the individual, regardless of how they earned that money.

When people select and actually elect people to do that I will take it seriously as a solution. Wall Street runs and controls the country today and they will never allow that to happen. People will not demand it either.

So we enact taxes to pay for things because that can be done.

Now you're using sophistry to justify your stance.

You know full well that when they opened the door of allowing the masses to vote for benefits from the common pool of taxes that the political parties would use it to garner votes.

Never should the people be permitted to vote for their own sustenance from the common funds.

I don't disagree that people vote for what they see benefitting them. It's why I've noted that practically everyone supports Socialism as long as it's benefitting them.

How does that mean I shouldn't support paying for it?

It is very simple. Your support should go to reducing the need to grow it. If you cut government, you CAN pay for it.

I fully support cutting. I've noted it many, many times. Stop with the trillions we waste on wars. The billions we give away to other countries in bribes. I'm all for it.

 

[pknopp]

I agree

Right now the super wealthy are only taxed on their income. They are clever enough not to claim income. We cannot touch their wealth.
A small fee on transactions (like a sales tax) will open up their wealth to taxation

How many times should a dollar be taxed, stalin?

These dollars are not taxed like others pay taxes on their dollars. Capital Gains are taxed at a lower rate. I'm all for taxing income as income instead.

So, it's just pure greed then? We need more of their money for government programs that solve problems that don't really exist.

I guess at this point in our history, Principle alone is just an outdated concept.

The thread is about whether you support this tax and how you would use it. I said I am open. Vote to enact it and use it to address the debt and I'll support that.

Paying off your debt is greed in your book?

I do not support the tax and never will support any tax increase until the government has been whittled away to its bare essential duties.

This is called a principle. The government needs ONLY that which is required to fulfill its Constitutional obligations.

Making up problems and then promoting a government solution to justify the greed of taxes for political gain is NOT a legitimate use of the 16th Amendment.

That's fine but not paying your debt has always been known as being a dead beat.

It is NOT My debt. I do pay My debt.

The national debt can be paid rather easily.

Cut the spending by the afore mentioned 60% and use the current revenue we are taking in to pay it down. It could be done in 15 years.

Then, cut the taxes to support ONLY a voted on and balanced budget.

Rinse/repeat.

Until such time as you and the rest of the country understand and support it.

Truth never stops being the truth.

Few support it.

 

[Nostra]

so your solution is to continue doing it??

better to stop it and lower taxs,,,

Where did I do that and more importantly as I've noted over and over, when someone actually does that I'll take it seriously.

so youre going to sit there and complain waiting for others to solve the problems you complain about and until then just keep taxing people

Should I take over the entire process? Cool.

I support what I claim to support and do not make lame excuses for what I pretend to not support. I've already noted this 3-4 times. I support paying for things. This is a way to pay for things so why would I not support it?

I support gutting or eliminating unneeded and wasteful government spending. In My estimate, a full 60% of the government could be cut and we'd be better off as a nation and society.

Then there would be less need to confiscate the labor of the individual, regardless of how they earned that money.

Hell, if the Fed Govt only did the very few things the Constitution gives it power to do it would be 1/1000th the size it is today.

 

[Mac-7]

article doesn't even cover all the Trump years.

Of course it does

 

[Darkwind]

so your solution is to continue doing it??

better to stop it and lower taxs,,,

Where did I do that and more importantly as I've noted over and over, when someone actually does that I'll take it seriously.

so youre going to sit there and complain waiting for others to solve the problems you complain about and until then just keep taxing people

Should I take over the entire process? Cool.

I support what I claim to support and do not make lame excuses for what I pretend to not support. I've already noted this 3-4 times. I support paying for things. This is a way to pay for things so why would I not support it?

I support gutting or eliminating unneeded and wasteful government spending. In My estimate, a full 60% of the government could be cut and we'd be better off as a nation and society.

Then there would be less need to confiscate the labor of the individual, regardless of how they earned that money.

When people select and actually elect people to do that I will take it seriously as a solution. Wall Street runs and controls the country today and they will never allow that to happen. People will not demand it either.

So we enact taxes to pay for things because that can be done.

Now you're using sophistry to justify your stance.

You know full well that when they opened the door of allowing the masses to vote for benefits from the common pool of taxes that the political parties would use it to garner votes.

Never should the people be permitted to vote for their own sustenance from the common funds.

I don't disagree that people vote for what they see benefitting them. It's why I've noted that practically everyone supports Socialism as long as it's benefitting them.

How does that mean I shouldn't support paying for it?

It is very simple. Your support should go to reducing the need to grow it. If you cut government, you CAN pay for it.

I fully support cutting. I've noted it many, many times. Stop with the trillions we waste on wars. The billions we give away to other countries in bribes. I'm all for it.

So, the way you force the political class to start thinking about cutting government is by refusing ALL tax increases no matter where they go looking for them.

I do NOT support this tax because it's just theft based on greed by a political group that sees easy money.

Sooner or later, if you have no income, you start cutting your spending.

 

[Nostra]

so your solution is to continue doing it??

better to stop it and lower taxs,,,

Where did I do that and more importantly as I've noted over and over, when someone actually does that I'll take it seriously.

so youre going to sit there and complain waiting for others to solve the problems you complain about and until then just keep taxing people

Should I take over the entire process? Cool.

I support what I claim to support and do not make lame excuses for what I pretend to not support. I've already noted this 3-4 times. I support paying for things. This is a way to pay for things so why would I not support it?

I support gutting or eliminating unneeded and wasteful government spending. In My estimate, a full 60% of the government could be cut and we'd be better off as a nation and society.

Then there would be less need to confiscate the labor of the individual, regardless of how they earned that money.

When people select and actually elect people to do that I will take it seriously as a solution. Wall Street runs and controls the country today and they will never allow that to happen. People will not demand it either.

So we enact taxes to pay for things because that can be done.

So, who have you voted for?

 

[pknopp]

article doesn't even cover all the Trump years.

Of course it does

$8 trillion. But you make a perfect example of what I've been saying. Excuse after excuse after excuse when your guys spend spend spend.

 

[BluesLegend]

What are Dems planning to spend the tax money on hmmm?

Gender equity studies on the Norwegian mini-salamander unicorn.

My point being Dems use shit like this to justify new taxes all the damn time then they siphon off the money for their PORK spending. Assholes!

Example: For decades gambling was illegal in Oregon. But the state desperately wanted to offer lotto games and tickets to collect 100's of millions in gambling revenue. So they promised voters they would allocate every last dollar of gambling revenue to schools and voters fell for it. So what happened? They allocated all the gambling money to schools....AND....took an equal amount out of the general fund that had been allocated to schools and spent that on PORK.

 

[Manonthestreet]

we once again have Trumpsters pretending to be fiscally responsible and attacking others.

What trumpsters wanted was an end to the lockouts

but if you did that democrats would not have an excuse to continue your massive borrow and spend pork barrel policies

8 trillion in spending that wasn't paid for under Trump.

Why didn't Nancy do something......

It's not her thing. She has no desire to address the debt. Why do you think she does?

Cause that's her job......

Her job is to raise campaign donations. That's the only reason she has her position.

But again, how do you expect Nancy and the Dems to do what Trump and the Republicans refused to do? They don't run on the debt.

House sets the budget ..end of story but it's easier to play stupid word games.

 

[pknopp]

so your solution is to continue doing it??

better to stop it and lower taxs,,,

Where did I do that and more importantly as I've noted over and over, when someone actually does that I'll take it seriously.

so youre going to sit there and complain waiting for others to solve the problems you complain about and until then just keep taxing people

Should I take over the entire process? Cool.

I support what I claim to support and do not make lame excuses for what I pretend to not support. I've already noted this 3-4 times. I support paying for things. This is a way to pay for things so why would I not support it?

I support gutting or eliminating unneeded and wasteful government spending. In My estimate, a full 60% of the government could be cut and we'd be better off as a nation and society.

Then there would be less need to confiscate the labor of the individual, regardless of how they earned that money.

When people select and actually elect people to do that I will take it seriously as a solution. Wall Street runs and controls the country today and they will never allow that to happen. People will not demand it either.

So we enact taxes to pay for things because that can be done.

Now you're using sophistry to justify your stance.

You know full well that when they opened the door of allowing the masses to vote for benefits from the common pool of taxes that the political parties would use it to garner votes.

Never should the people be permitted to vote for their own sustenance from the common funds.

I don't disagree that people vote for what they see benefitting them. It's why I've noted that practically everyone supports Socialism as long as it's benefitting them.

How does that mean I shouldn't support paying for it?

It is very simple. Your support should go to reducing the need to grow it. If you cut government, you CAN pay for it.

I fully support cutting. I've noted it many, many times. Stop with the trillions we waste on wars. The billions we give away to other countries in bribes. I'm all for it.

So, the way you force the political class to start thinking about cutting government is by refusing ALL tax increases no matter where they go looking for them.

I do NOT support this tax because it's just theft based on greed by a political group that sees easy money.

Sooner or later, if you have no income, you start cutting your spending.

We long ago ran out of money but the spending never stopped.

 

[pknopp]

we once again have Trumpsters pretending to be fiscally responsible and attacking others.

What trumpsters wanted was an end to the lockouts

but if you did that democrats would not have an excuse to continue your massive borrow and spend pork barrel policies

8 trillion in spending that wasn't paid for under Trump.

Why didn't Nancy do something......

It's not her thing. She has no desire to address the debt. Why do you think she does?

Cause that's her job......

Her job is to raise campaign donations. That's the only reason she has her position.

But again, how do you expect Nancy and the Dems to do what Trump and the Republicans refused to do? They don't run on the debt.

House sets the budget ..end of story but it's easier to play stupid word games.

Republicans had the House and Senate under Trump. They added debt. It still has to pass the Senate and the President still has to sign off on it. Trump signed off on $8 trillion in debt in 4 years.

 

[Mac-7]

$8 trillion

Not according to my source

but $3.5 trillion is still a shocking number

too bad liberals controlled the budget and spending process even when trump was in office

 

[Darkwind]

so your solution is to continue doing it??

better to stop it and lower taxs,,,

Where did I do that and more importantly as I've noted over and over, when someone actually does that I'll take it seriously.

so youre going to sit there and complain waiting for others to solve the problems you complain about and until then just keep taxing people

Should I take over the entire process? Cool.

I support what I claim to support and do not make lame excuses for what I pretend to not support. I've already noted this 3-4 times. I support paying for things. This is a way to pay for things so why would I not support it?

I support gutting or eliminating unneeded and wasteful government spending. In My estimate, a full 60% of the government could be cut and we'd be better off as a nation and society.

Then there would be less need to confiscate the labor of the individual, regardless of how they earned that money.

Hell, if the Fed Govt only did the very few things the Constitution gives it power to do it would be 1/1000th the size it is today.

And require 1/1000 the income it has today.

so your solution is to continue doing it??

better to stop it and lower taxs,,,

Where did I do that and more importantly as I've noted over and over, when someone actually does that I'll take it seriously.

so youre going to sit there and complain waiting for others to solve the problems you complain about and until then just keep taxing people

Should I take over the entire process? Cool.

I support what I claim to support and do not make lame excuses for what I pretend to not support. I've already noted this 3-4 times. I support paying for things. This is a way to pay for things so why would I not support it?

I support gutting or eliminating unneeded and wasteful government spending. In My estimate, a full 60% of the government could be cut and we'd be better off as a nation and society.

Then there would be less need to confiscate the labor of the individual, regardless of how they earned that money.

When people select and actually elect people to do that I will take it seriously as a solution. Wall Street runs and controls the country today and they will never allow that to happen. People will not demand it either.

So we enact taxes to pay for things because that can be done.

Now you're using sophistry to justify your stance.

You know full well that when they opened the door of allowing the masses to vote for benefits from the common pool of taxes that the political parties would use it to garner votes.

Never should the people be permitted to vote for their own sustenance from the common funds.

I don't disagree that people vote for what they see benefitting them. It's why I've noted that practically everyone supports Socialism as long as it's benefitting them.

How does that mean I shouldn't support paying for it?

It is very simple. Your support should go to reducing the need to grow it. If you cut government, you CAN pay for it.

I fully support cutting. I've noted it many, many times. Stop with the trillions we waste on wars. The billions we give away to other countries in bribes. I'm all for it.

So, the way you force the political class to start thinking about cutting government is by refusing ALL tax increases no matter where they go looking for them.

I do NOT support this tax because it's just theft based on greed by a political group that sees easy money.

Sooner or later, if you have no income, you start cutting your spending.

We long ago ran out of money but the spending never stopped.

Then we continue to deny them the taxes until such time as the entire system implodes. Sometimes, the pain to correct a problem is necessary.

When you condone bad behavior, you just get more of it.

 

[Darkwind]

$8 trillion

Not according to my source

but $3.5 trillion is still a shocking number

too bad liberals controlled the budget and spending process even when trump was in office

In that, it would not have made a difference. The GOP is as bad as the Democrats when it comes to buying votes.

 

[RealDave]

Buying a stock is no different than buying a car. You should pay a sales tax when you buy it and there should be a sales tax when you sell it.

 

[Mac-7]

Republicans had the House and Senate under Trum

Now democrats are in complete control

so you try to shift attention away from them and back on trump

 

[pknopp]

so your solution is to continue doing it??

better to stop it and lower taxs,,,

Where did I do that and more importantly as I've noted over and over, when someone actually does that I'll take it seriously.

so youre going to sit there and complain waiting for others to solve the problems you complain about and until then just keep taxing people

Should I take over the entire process? Cool.

I support what I claim to support and do not make lame excuses for what I pretend to not support. I've already noted this 3-4 times. I support paying for things. This is a way to pay for things so why would I not support it?

I support gutting or eliminating unneeded and wasteful government spending. In My estimate, a full 60% of the government could be cut and we'd be better off as a nation and society.

Then there would be less need to confiscate the labor of the individual, regardless of how they earned that money.

Hell, if the Fed Govt only did the very few things the Constitution gives it power to do it would be 1/1000th the size it is today.

And require 1/1000 the income it has today.

so your solution is to continue doing it??

better to stop it and lower taxs,,,

Where did I do that and more importantly as I've noted over and over, when someone actually does that I'll take it seriously.

so youre going to sit there and complain waiting for others to solve the problems you complain about and until then just keep taxing people

Should I take over the entire process? Cool.

I support what I claim to support and do not make lame excuses for what I pretend to not support. I've already noted this 3-4 times. I support paying for things. This is a way to pay for things so why would I not support it?

I support gutting or eliminating unneeded and wasteful government spending. In My estimate, a full 60% of the government could be cut and we'd be better off as a nation and society.

Then there would be less need to confiscate the labor of the individual, regardless of how they earned that money.

When people select and actually elect people to do that I will take it seriously as a solution. Wall Street runs and controls the country today and they will never allow that to happen. People will not demand it either.

So we enact taxes to pay for things because that can be done.

Now you're using sophistry to justify your stance.

You know full well that when they opened the door of allowing the masses to vote for benefits from the common pool of taxes that the political parties would use it to garner votes.

Never should the people be permitted to vote for their own sustenance from the common funds.

I don't disagree that people vote for what they see benefitting them. It's why I've noted that practically everyone supports Socialism as long as it's benefitting them.

How does that mean I shouldn't support paying for it?

It is very simple. Your support should go to reducing the need to grow it. If you cut government, you CAN pay for it.

I fully support cutting. I've noted it many, many times. Stop with the trillions we waste on wars. The billions we give away to other countries in bribes. I'm all for it.

So, the way you force the political class to start thinking about cutting government is by refusing ALL tax increases no matter where they go looking for them.

I do NOT support this tax because it's just theft based on greed by a political group that sees easy money.

Sooner or later, if you have no income, you start cutting your spending.

We long ago ran out of money but the spending never stopped.

Then we continue to deny them the taxes until such time as the entire system implodes. Sometimes, the pain to correct a problem is necessary.

When you condone bad behavior, you just get more of it.

Deny or add, add, add until it explodes. All the same end.

 

[Nostra]

we once again have Trumpsters pretending to be fiscally responsible and attacking others.

What trumpsters wanted was an end to the lockouts

but if you did that democrats would not have an excuse to continue your massive borrow and spend pork barrel policies

8 trillion in spending that wasn't paid for under Trump.

Why didn't Nancy do something......

It's not her thing. She has no desire to address the debt. Why do you think she does?

Cause that's her job......

Her job is to raise campaign donations. That's the only reason she has her position.

But again, how do you expect Nancy and the Dems to do what Trump and the Republicans refused to do? They don't run on the debt.

House sets the budget ..end of story but it's easier to play stupid word games.

Republicans had the House and Senate under Trump. They added debt. It still has to pass the Senate and the President still has to sign off on it. Trump signed off on $8 trillion in debt in 4 years.

Who have you voted for?

 

[pknopp]

Republicans had the House and Senate under Trum

Now democrats are in complete control

so you try to shift attention away from them and back on trump

I don't support then adding to the debt. I did NOT vote for those who will do that. You did.

 

[Papageorgio]

Buying a stock is no different than buying a car. You should pay a sales tax when you buy it and there should be a sales tax when you sell it.

Right and the brokers will charge everyone with IRA's 401K's and other stocks and make a more profit or break even. The only losers will be the middle class and other working Americans.