Democrats mislabel Graham’s proposal as abortion ban, allows exceptions for rape, incest, mother's life after 15 weeks

[MinTrut]

I don't know. I don't see it that way. Again, maybe I'm missing something but you know.. there's this:

Trump won even after getting up in front of the whole world (@ a debate) and saying

"I am pro life"

He won after doing that. Then he won BIGGER in 2020 but that election was crooked/rigged

In any case, if not for Trump there would still be the nefarious Roe

so yeh... there are more pro life Americans than not

Timing is everything.

 

[martybegan]

Roe actually happened. Your fantasies have not

Roe was terrible precedent, and has rightly been overturned.

 

[Lesh]

Roe was terrible precedent, and has rightly been overturned.

fifty YEARS of precedent.

But thanks for your fucked up opinion

 

[martybegan]

fifty YEARS of precedent.

But thanks for your fucked up opinion

How many years of precedent was Plessey?

 

[Lesh]

How many years of precedent was Plessey?

Again...thanks for your fucked up opinion

 

[martybegan]

Again...thanks for your fucked up opinion

Wow, talk about not being able to handle being called out for a bullshit point.

 

[Dragonlady]

What? Democrats lie?

Democrats mislabel Graham’s proposal as abortion ban

Democrats have reiterated that they're not willing to negotiate their stance on abortion. On Wednesday, Democrat lawmakers came after Senator Lindsey Graham's (R-S.C.) proposed federal abortion law.

www.oann.com

"Democrats have reiterated that they’re not willing to negotiate their stance on abortion. On Wednesday, Democrat lawmakers came after Senator Lindsey Graham’s (R-S.C.) proposed federal abortion law.

The proposed Bill is an attempt to bridge a political divide on the subject by allowing abortions up to 15-weeks past the point of conception nationwide. The Bill allows exceptions to the time limit for cases of rape, incest and pregnancies that put the mother’s life in jeopardy.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) accused Graham of trying to outlaw the procedure while she was speaking out against the idea of each state deciding their own policy on the matter."

No exception for genetic abnormalities. No exceptions for prenatal care.

People with no medical licenses and with no knowledge of pregnancy and reproduction should not be making laws about pregnant women and their health care. Especially when 70% of all Americans want abortion to remain safe and legal.

 

[martybegan]

No exception for genetic abnormalities. No exceptions for prenatal care.

People with no medical licenses and with no knowledge of pregnancy and reproduction should not be making laws about pregnant women and their health care. Especially when 70% of all Americans want abortion to remain safe and legal.

That 70% is also perfectly happy with a 15 week ban, with exceptions for the life of the mother.

15 weeks also covers rape and incest, if you can't figure it out in FOUR MONTHS, then the issue isn't the law, it's with you.

 

[Lesh]

That 70% is also perfectly happy with a 15 week ban, with exceptions for the life of the mother.

15 weeks also covers rape and incest, if you can't figure it out in FOUR MONTHS, then the issue isn't the law, it's with you.

Sorry but graham 's ploy is not going to work.

It shows that

A. The states rights thing was a lie

B. Republicans are looking to do away with ab abortion nationally

No one is fooled

 

[martybegan]

Sorry but graham 's ploy is not going to work.

It shows that

A. The states rights thing was a lie

B. Republicans are looking to do away with ab abortion nationally

No one is fooled

It's a proposal, nothing more or less. Dems are proposing similar things in the opposite direction.

Again, it puts the position on the floor, and a 15 week limit is something most of the country agrees with.

 

[Lesh]

It's a proposal, nothing more or less. Dems are proposing similar things in the opposite direction.

Again, it puts the position on the floor, and a 15 week limit is something most of the country agrees with.

A national ban is something few people agree with

 

[martybegan]

A national ban is something few people agree with

A national restriction to 15 weeks polls well, far better than no restrictions at all.

 

[bripat9643]

Exactly.

But timing is everything, and Graham doing this now stinks to high heaven.

Graham is a fucking retard. I sometimes believe he's Democrat mole trying to destroy the Republican party

 

[bripat9643]

A national restriction to 15 weeks polls well, far better than no restrictions at all.

The bill is an attempt to fuck the Republican party.

 

[bripat9643]

What happened to "let the states decide it"? Graham's bill is a federal bill,

I agree. I can't imagine a more stupid bill for a Republican to bring up

 

[Dragonlady]

What? Democrats lie?

Democrats mislabel Graham’s proposal as abortion ban

Democrats have reiterated that they're not willing to negotiate their stance on abortion. On Wednesday, Democrat lawmakers came after Senator Lindsey Graham's (R-S.C.) proposed federal abortion law.

www.oann.com

"Democrats have reiterated that they’re not willing to negotiate their stance on abortion. On Wednesday, Democrat lawmakers came after Senator Lindsey Graham’s (R-S.C.) proposed federal abortion law.

The proposed Bill is an attempt to bridge a political divide on the subject by allowing abortions up to 15-weeks past the point of conception nationwide. The Bill allows exceptions to the time limit for cases of rape, incest and pregnancies that put the mother’s life in jeopardy.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) accused Graham of trying to outlaw the procedure while she was speaking out against the idea of each state deciding their own policy on the matter."

If you believe abortion is wrong, don't have one. Anyone else's pregnancy is NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS.

 

[Dragonlady]

A national restriction to 15 weeks polls well, far better than no restrictions at all.

The abortions that happen after 15 weeks are the medically necessary abortions. The ones no one ever wants to have. You can't even do genetic testing before 19 weeks because there isn't enough amniotic fluid before then, and the test takes 4 to 5 weeks for results.

People without medical degrees should not be making decisions on medical matters. Leave it to the women and their doctors.

 

[martybegan]

The abortions that happen after 15 weeks are the medically necessary abortions. The ones no one ever wants to have. You can't even do genetic testing before 19 weeks because there isn't enough amniotic fluid before then, and the test takes 4 to 5 weeks for results.

People without medical degrees should not be making decisions on medical matters. Leave it to the women and their doctors.

Actually 15-20 weeks according to most sources, so you lied, as usual to make your point.

 

[sealybobo]

What? Democrats lie?

Democrats mislabel Graham’s proposal as abortion ban

Democrats have reiterated that they're not willing to negotiate their stance on abortion. On Wednesday, Democrat lawmakers came after Senator Lindsey Graham's (R-S.C.) proposed federal abortion law.

www.oann.com

"Democrats have reiterated that they’re not willing to negotiate their stance on abortion. On Wednesday, Democrat lawmakers came after Senator Lindsey Graham’s (R-S.C.) proposed federal abortion law.

The proposed Bill is an attempt to bridge a political divide on the subject by allowing abortions up to 15-weeks past the point of conception nationwide. The Bill allows exceptions to the time limit for cases of rape, incest and pregnancies that put the mother’s life in jeopardy.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) accused Graham of trying to outlaw the procedure while she was speaking out against the idea of each state deciding their own policy on the matter."

Who's lying? Look what happened in AZ

no exceptions for rape or incest and allows abortions only if the mother’s life is in jeopardy.

 

[CowboyTed]

The abortions that happen after 15 weeks are the medically necessary abortions. The ones no one ever wants to have. You can't even do genetic testing before 19 weeks because there isn't enough amniotic fluid before then, and the test takes 4 to 5 weeks for results.

People without medical degrees should not be making decisions on medical matters. Leave it to the women and their doctors.

Agreed...

We are talking small figures but very important ones... these are the miscarriages, medical problems,....

Last thing you want is doctors looking up legal text to find out if they can or cannot abort...

Woman 'denied a termination' dies in hospital

FROM THE ARCHIVE: Two investigations are under way into the death of a woman who was 17 weeks pregnant, at University Hospital Galway last month.

www.irishtimes.com

While the woman was dying, doctors were asking lawyers could they abort if they weren't 100% that there was no heartbeat. She died while they were trying to figure out the law.

This case shocked Ireland... They had a referendum and changed the constitution over it...