OldLady
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I don't know much of anything about that investigation--is it about Biden? What is he being investigated for?
Democrats Have Opposed Electoral College Last 3 Presidents...Now Oppose GOP Doing So
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colfax_m
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Some Democrats pushed forThe only new state that mailed ballots to all registered voters was Nevada. The thing you’re complaining about is basically irrelevant.
Doesn’t seem like you’ve done much research on the topic. This website is a good place to start.
The only reason this is an issue is because Trump lost and you’re looking for an excuse that isn’t the truth, that Trump is a horseshit president.
Why the need to modify if absentee voting accomplishes the same thing? Much of the argument made for Mail-In is drawn from Absentee Voting; which was already in place. The primary difference as I continue to emphasize is that Mail-In enables Election Boards to proactively mail ballots to people on voter registration lists which includes people who have died, people that no longer live in the district, and people incapacitated (collectively, people who don't request a ballot). While no voting system is completely risk-free, the Mail-In vs. Absentee system introduces more risk and the need for more controls and validation. The 2020 Election would have resulted in less uncertainty and doubt among many of the American voters had there just been Absentee Ballots whereby the only modification being the voter universally (i.e. ALL STATES) request ballots and postmark by a certain date.
Absentee Balloting as a stand-alone addresses any pandemic concerns or any other in-person voting limitations.
You are stating results, not rules or policy. Where are you getting your source to back that claim? What is your understanding as per the difference between Absentee and Mail-In? Why did Democrats push for Mail-In if they are the same?
No, you just don’t really know what you’re talking about.
So get enough people to agree with you and amend the Constitution.
colfax_m
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A few more states just have to agree to the national popular vote compact.
LeftofLeft
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Doesn’t seem like you’ve done much research on the topic. This website is a good place to start.
The only reason this is an issue is because Trump lost and you’re looking for an excuse that isn’t the truth, that Trump is a horseshit president.
Why the need to modify if absentee voting accomplishes the same thing? Much of the argument made for Mail-In is drawn from Absentee Voting; which was already in place. The primary difference as I continue to emphasize is that Mail-In enables Election Boards to proactively mail ballots to people on voter registration lists which includes people who have died, people that no longer live in the district, and people incapacitated (collectively, people who don't request a ballot). While no voting system is completely risk-free, the Mail-In vs. Absentee system introduces more risk and the need for more controls and validation. The 2020 Election would have resulted in less uncertainty and doubt among many of the American voters had there just been Absentee Ballots whereby the only modification being the voter universally (i.e. ALL STATES) request ballots and postmark by a certain date.
Absentee Balloting as a stand-alone addresses any pandemic concerns or any other in-person voting limitations.
And as you keep ignoring....
Five states have run their elections precisely has you describe above: Mailing ballots to every registered voter.
The number of threads you've created questioning the validity of their elections? Zero
The number of threads the board has created questioning the validity of their elections? Zero
The amount of voter fraud proven in these elections? No more or less than other states.
The amount of contested elections by the hundreds of losers this system has generated? Near zero if not zero
Given these FACTS...why are you guys all of the sudden upset about this happening in other states other than the obvious...your blob lost and you're looking for an excuse?
Your
Blob
Lost
There
Was
No
Sizable
Fraud
Why the need for Mail In?
Why not?
You don't open up 5,000 voting centers, buy 50,000 voting machines, risk power outages, glitches, etc...
Make us all laugh at you:
You are creating an election apparatus:
Do you prefer:
Option A:
Stand in line for possibly hours to cast a vote in a foreign space where you don't have a computer to research ballot initiatives, candidates that you may be unfamiliar with, and have an implied time limit to cast your ballot
or
Option B: You get your ballot at home without standing in line, You can do all the research you want, your time limit is possibly weeks, not minutes.
Choose wisely:
This doesn't even speak to the Tuesday where you will likely have to go to work, vote after work, get dinner, have bad weather, voter intimidation, etc....
Of course, what you'll come back with is the myth that there will be massive fraud. While I agree that the potential is always there (in person or via mail in), there has been no sizable fraud in the elections that have been held in those five states.
Absentee vs Mail In.
LeftofLeft
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Show me.Some Democrats pushed forThe only new state that mailed ballots to all registered voters was Nevada. The thing you’re complaining about is basically irrelevant.
Doesn’t seem like you’ve done much research on the topic. This website is a good place to start.
The only reason this is an issue is because Trump lost and you’re looking for an excuse that isn’t the truth, that Trump is a horseshit president.
Why the need to modify if absentee voting accomplishes the same thing? Much of the argument made for Mail-In is drawn from Absentee Voting; which was already in place. The primary difference as I continue to emphasize is that Mail-In enables Election Boards to proactively mail ballots to people on voter registration lists which includes people who have died, people that no longer live in the district, and people incapacitated (collectively, people who don't request a ballot). While no voting system is completely risk-free, the Mail-In vs. Absentee system introduces more risk and the need for more controls and validation. The 2020 Election would have resulted in less uncertainty and doubt among many of the American voters had there just been Absentee Ballots whereby the only modification being the voter universally (i.e. ALL STATES) request ballots and postmark by a certain date.
Absentee Balloting as a stand-alone addresses any pandemic concerns or any other in-person voting limitations.
You are stating results, not rules or policy. Where are you getting your source to back that claim? What is your understanding as per the difference between Absentee and Mail-In? Why did Democrats push for Mail-In if they are the same?
No, you just don’t really know what you’re talking about.
colfax_m
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Trump's Absentee vs. Mail-In Ballot Spin - FactCheck.org
President Donald Trump continues to draw false distinctions between mail-in and absentee ballots, claiming the former are rife with voter fraud while the latter -- which he has used as president -- require a voter to go through "a very strict process, the equivalent of going to a voting machine...
www.factcheck.org
candycorn
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Doesn’t seem like you’ve done much research on the topic. This website is a good place to start.
The only reason this is an issue is because Trump lost and you’re looking for an excuse that isn’t the truth, that Trump is a horseshit president.
Why the need to modify if absentee voting accomplishes the same thing? Much of the argument made for Mail-In is drawn from Absentee Voting; which was already in place. The primary difference as I continue to emphasize is that Mail-In enables Election Boards to proactively mail ballots to people on voter registration lists which includes people who have died, people that no longer live in the district, and people incapacitated (collectively, people who don't request a ballot). While no voting system is completely risk-free, the Mail-In vs. Absentee system introduces more risk and the need for more controls and validation. The 2020 Election would have resulted in less uncertainty and doubt among many of the American voters had there just been Absentee Ballots whereby the only modification being the voter universally (i.e. ALL STATES) request ballots and postmark by a certain date.
Absentee Balloting as a stand-alone addresses any pandemic concerns or any other in-person voting limitations.
And as you keep ignoring....
Five states have run their elections precisely has you describe above: Mailing ballots to every registered voter.
The number of threads you've created questioning the validity of their elections? Zero
The number of threads the board has created questioning the validity of their elections? Zero
The amount of voter fraud proven in these elections? No more or less than other states.
The amount of contested elections by the hundreds of losers this system has generated? Near zero if not zero
Given these FACTS...why are you guys all of the sudden upset about this happening in other states other than the obvious...your blob lost and you're looking for an excuse?
Your
Blob
Lost
There
Was
No
Sizable
Fraud
Why the need for Mail In?
Why not?
You don't open up 5,000 voting centers, buy 50,000 voting machines, risk power outages, glitches, etc...
Make us all laugh at you:
You are creating an election apparatus:
Do you prefer:
Option A:
Stand in line for possibly hours to cast a vote in a foreign space where you don't have a computer to research ballot initiatives, candidates that you may be unfamiliar with, and have an implied time limit to cast your ballot
or
Option B: You get your ballot at home without standing in line, You can do all the research you want, your time limit is possibly weeks, not minutes.
Choose wisely:
This doesn't even speak to the Tuesday where you will likely have to go to work, vote after work, get dinner, have bad weather, voter intimidation, etc....
Of course, what you'll come back with is the myth that there will be massive fraud. While I agree that the potential is always there (in person or via mail in), there has been no sizable fraud in the elections that have been held in those five states.
Absentee vs Mail In.
I guess when painted into a corner like you are where you have to contort to a ridiculous stance...a non answer like the one you just gave is the best move.
I'll take my victory lap now.
LeftofLeft
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Trump's Absentee vs. Mail-In Ballot Spin - FactCheck.org
President Donald Trump continues to draw false distinctions between mail-in and absentee ballots, claiming the former are rife with voter fraud while the latter -- which he has used as president -- require a voter to go through "a very strict process, the equivalent of going to a voting machine...
You simply showed Trump’s interpretation. You have yet to build the case for maintaining Mail In when Absentee achieves the same.
They can do that, but the voters would have to be morons to throw away their votes like that.
LeftofLeft
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Doesn’t seem like you’ve done much research on the topic. This website is a good place to start.
The only reason this is an issue is because Trump lost and you’re looking for an excuse that isn’t the truth, that Trump is a horseshit president.
Why the need to modify if absentee voting accomplishes the same thing? Much of the argument made for Mail-In is drawn from Absentee Voting; which was already in place. The primary difference as I continue to emphasize is that Mail-In enables Election Boards to proactively mail ballots to people on voter registration lists which includes people who have died, people that no longer live in the district, and people incapacitated (collectively, people who don't request a ballot). While no voting system is completely risk-free, the Mail-In vs. Absentee system introduces more risk and the need for more controls and validation. The 2020 Election would have resulted in less uncertainty and doubt among many of the American voters had there just been Absentee Ballots whereby the only modification being the voter universally (i.e. ALL STATES) request ballots and postmark by a certain date.
Absentee Balloting as a stand-alone addresses any pandemic concerns or any other in-person voting limitations.
And as you keep ignoring....
Five states have run their elections precisely has you describe above: Mailing ballots to every registered voter.
The number of threads you've created questioning the validity of their elections? Zero
The number of threads the board has created questioning the validity of their elections? Zero
The amount of voter fraud proven in these elections? No more or less than other states.
The amount of contested elections by the hundreds of losers this system has generated? Near zero if not zero
Given these FACTS...why are you guys all of the sudden upset about this happening in other states other than the obvious...your blob lost and you're looking for an excuse?
Your
Blob
Lost
There
Was
No
Sizable
Fraud
Why the need for Mail In?
Why not?
You don't open up 5,000 voting centers, buy 50,000 voting machines, risk power outages, glitches, etc...
Make us all laugh at you:
You are creating an election apparatus:
Do you prefer:
Option A:
Stand in line for possibly hours to cast a vote in a foreign space where you don't have a computer to research ballot initiatives, candidates that you may be unfamiliar with, and have an implied time limit to cast your ballot
or
Option B: You get your ballot at home without standing in line, You can do all the research you want, your time limit is possibly weeks, not minutes.
Choose wisely:
This doesn't even speak to the Tuesday where you will likely have to go to work, vote after work, get dinner, have bad weather, voter intimidation, etc....
Of course, what you'll come back with is the myth that there will be massive fraud. While I agree that the potential is always there (in person or via mail in), there has been no sizable fraud in the elections that have been held in those five states.
Absentee vs Mail In.
I guess when painted into a corner like you are where you have to contort to a ridiculous stance...a non answer like the one you just gave is the best move.
I'll take my victory lap now.
Why the need for Mail In when Absentee addresses all of the issues identified in the arguments for Mail In. Keep lapping.
candycorn
Diamond Member
Doesn’t seem like you’ve done much research on the topic. This website is a good place to start.
The only reason this is an issue is because Trump lost and you’re looking for an excuse that isn’t the truth, that Trump is a horseshit president.
Why the need to modify if absentee voting accomplishes the same thing? Much of the argument made for Mail-In is drawn from Absentee Voting; which was already in place. The primary difference as I continue to emphasize is that Mail-In enables Election Boards to proactively mail ballots to people on voter registration lists which includes people who have died, people that no longer live in the district, and people incapacitated (collectively, people who don't request a ballot). While no voting system is completely risk-free, the Mail-In vs. Absentee system introduces more risk and the need for more controls and validation. The 2020 Election would have resulted in less uncertainty and doubt among many of the American voters had there just been Absentee Ballots whereby the only modification being the voter universally (i.e. ALL STATES) request ballots and postmark by a certain date.
Absentee Balloting as a stand-alone addresses any pandemic concerns or any other in-person voting limitations.
And as you keep ignoring....
Five states have run their elections precisely has you describe above: Mailing ballots to every registered voter.
The number of threads you've created questioning the validity of their elections? Zero
The number of threads the board has created questioning the validity of their elections? Zero
The amount of voter fraud proven in these elections? No more or less than other states.
The amount of contested elections by the hundreds of losers this system has generated? Near zero if not zero
Given these FACTS...why are you guys all of the sudden upset about this happening in other states other than the obvious...your blob lost and you're looking for an excuse?
Your
Blob
Lost
There
Was
No
Sizable
Fraud
Why the need for Mail In?
Why not?
You don't open up 5,000 voting centers, buy 50,000 voting machines, risk power outages, glitches, etc...
Make us all laugh at you:
You are creating an election apparatus:
Do you prefer:
Option A:
Stand in line for possibly hours to cast a vote in a foreign space where you don't have a computer to research ballot initiatives, candidates that you may be unfamiliar with, and have an implied time limit to cast your ballot
or
Option B: You get your ballot at home without standing in line, You can do all the research you want, your time limit is possibly weeks, not minutes.
Choose wisely:
This doesn't even speak to the Tuesday where you will likely have to go to work, vote after work, get dinner, have bad weather, voter intimidation, etc....
Of course, what you'll come back with is the myth that there will be massive fraud. While I agree that the potential is always there (in person or via mail in), there has been no sizable fraud in the elections that have been held in those five states.
Absentee vs Mail In.
I guess when painted into a corner like you are where you have to contort to a ridiculous stance...a non answer like the one you just gave is the best move.
I'll take my victory lap now.
Why the need for Mail In when Absentee addresses all of the issues identified in the arguments for Mail In. Keep lapping.
Why absentee when mail-in addresses all of the issues identified in the arguments for absentee? Plus compulsory vote by mail is cost effective, gets higher participation, has been show to work, has been show to have just as little fraud as in-person voting, is more convenient, and allows for better choices by the electorate.
Blaine Sweeter
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Hilarious....
Democrats Have Objected to Electoral Vote Certification for the Last Three GOP Presidents
Democrats are outraged that Republicans are planning on objecting to the certification of electoralpjmedia.com
.
You are such a dolt.
How far Did you have to reach up your ass to come up with pjmedia.com as a source.?Hilarious....
Democrats Have Objected to Electoral Vote Certification for the Last Three GOP Presidents
Democrats are outraged that Republicans are planning on objecting to the certification of electoral
.
please note the date of this tweet by the biggest loser.
2012!!
Mr. Friscus
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I swear this is how the leftist media works.
*Every single President before Trump pardons a Turkey for Thanksgiving.. no issue.
Donald Trump pardons a turkey..
MEDIA: WHAT IS WRONG WITH TRUMP??? THIS IS A UNIQUE DISGRACE!! WHY IS HE WASTING TIME ON THIS??? A PRESIDENT PARDONING A TURKEY?? HOW STUPID IS HE!!
No context, everything that Trump does is a shocking unique maneuver, even if it's status quo.
*Every single President before Trump pardons a Turkey for Thanksgiving.. no issue.
Donald Trump pardons a turkey..
MEDIA: WHAT IS WRONG WITH TRUMP??? THIS IS A UNIQUE DISGRACE!! WHY IS HE WASTING TIME ON THIS??? A PRESIDENT PARDONING A TURKEY?? HOW STUPID IS HE!!
No context, everything that Trump does is a shocking unique maneuver, even if it's status quo.
I disagree. In five years my oldest will be able to vote. Her vote will be equal to mine yet she certainly won’t be my equal in world experience, taxes paid, etc. both systems are bad but we are the United States so we go by our constitution and that means the EC.
easyt65
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Hilarious....
Democrats Have Objected to Electoral Vote Certification for the Last Three GOP Presidents
Democrats are outraged that Republicans are planning on objecting to the certification of electoral
.
You are such a dolt.
How far Did you have to reach up your ass to come up with pjmedia.com as a source.?Hilarious....
Democrats Have Objected to Electoral Vote Certification for the Last Three GOP Presidents
Democrats are outraged that Republicans are planning on objecting to the certification of electoral
.
please note the date of this tweet by the biggest loser.
2012!!
Democrats have opposed the Electoral College the last 3 Presidents. Your opinionated, irrational, hate-driven rant did nothing to disprove that....it just demonstrated how much of a emotionally unbalanced child you are and how easily you can be triggered by the truth into a tantrum.
martybegan
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Otherwise know as "it's OK when we do it, because, shut up"
easyt65
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We’ve written about the hypocrisy of the Democrats for attacking Republicans who have said they will object to the electoral count on Jan. 6.
As we observed, Democrats have voiced objections to the count against the three last Republican presidents. Of course, when they did it it was ‘protecting Democracy.’ Now that the Republicans are raising objections, suddenly, doing so is ‘sedition’ and ‘treason’ to the Democrats.
Democrats in 2000 & 2004 elections *OBJECT* to counting votes in the Electoral College. pic.twitter.com/B0Bh0OtgiX
— Kyle Becker (@kylenabecker) January 2, 2021
redstate.com
Its 'interesting' to watch Democrats, their Fake News surrogates, and sheep attempting re-write history, spin, distract, and flat-out lie when their hypocrisy is undeniably exposed.
Case in point: 3...2...1...
As we observed, Democrats have voiced objections to the count against the three last Republican presidents. Of course, when they did it it was ‘protecting Democracy.’ Now that the Republicans are raising objections, suddenly, doing so is ‘sedition’ and ‘treason’ to the Democrats.
Democrats in 2000 & 2004 elections *OBJECT* to counting votes in the Electoral College. pic.twitter.com/B0Bh0OtgiX
— Kyle Becker (@kylenabecker) January 2, 2021
Watch: Dems Including Pelosi Object to Electoral Count for Incoming GOP Presidents Including Trump
We’ve written about the hypocrisy of the Democrats for attacking Republicans who have said the
redstate.com
Its 'interesting' to watch Democrats, their Fake News surrogates, and sheep attempting re-write history, spin, distract, and flat-out lie when their hypocrisy is undeniably exposed.
Case in point: 3...2...1...
colfax_m
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National popular vote doesn't throw anyone's votes away, unlike the electoral college.
martybegan
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If they do it by the compact, it throws away the vote of anyone in a State that flips due to the compact.
It's unconstitutional anyway, so the point is moot.
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