Democrats hate Cubans

[Wyatt earp]

Intellectual property, big deal. The problem with intellectual property is that it's stolen all the time. You really can't own an idea, and it's really silly to say you can.



You mean the Great Recession that Bush caused? yes, they did. Barry brought us back from it, but you were too busy screaming "OH MY GOD THERE'S A NEGRO IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!"

What did the anti pipeline, anti drilling, anti fracking, anti business president do to accomplish it, please be specific

 

[Wyatt earp]

No, it's because they tend to be shitty guests when they get here.

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Hey, we all remember the 1970's and the Cuban Crime Wave.

Yeah we know

 

[Oldestyle]

Intellectual property, big deal. The problem with intellectual property is that it's stolen all the time. You really can't own an idea, and it's really silly to say you can.



You mean the Great Recession that Bush caused? yes, they did. Barry brought us back from it, but you were too busy screaming "OH MY GOD THERE'S A NEGRO IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!"

Of course you can own an idea, you buffoon! What do you think a patent is? Are you really this clueless, Joey?

The Great Recession was caused by a massive collapse of the housing bubble...something that Bush warned Congress about...but people like Barney Frank ignored. Barack Obama gave us the worst recovery from a recession since The Great Depression. His total cluelessness about economics had the economy recovering at such a slow rate that millions were out of work for years.

 

[Oldestyle]

No, it's because they tend to be shitty guests when they get here.

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Hey, we all remember the 1970's and the Cuban Crime Wave.

Now you're really being an idiot! The "Cuban Crime Wave" was caused by Castro emptying his prisons and mental institutions and sending them to the US. That isn't what is happening now...these are good people who are simply trying to escape the collapse of yet another Communist failure!

 

[JoeB131]

What did the anti pipeline, anti drilling, anti fracking, anti business president do to accomplish it, please be specific

He passed a stimulus package
He saved the Auto Industry when the vultures were circling around GM
He signed Dodd-Frank which kept the banks from fucking this up again.

Yeah we know

You mean they returned a child to his rightful guardian. How terrible.

 

[JoeB131]

Of course you can own an idea, you buffoon! What do you think a patent is? Are you really this clueless, Joey?

The Great Recession was caused by a massive collapse of the housing bubble...something that Bush warned Congress about...but people like Barney Frank ignored. Barack Obama gave us the worst recovery from a recession since The Great Depression. His total cluelessness about economics had the economy recovering at such a slow rate that millions were out of work for years.

Funny, I remember that Bush was President from 2001 to 2009 and Barney Frank wasn't. But Barney frank was gay dating someone at Fanny Mae, and that's enough of a scandal for you people.

The reality- Bush thought that the housing bubble was fine. It actually created the ILLUSION of economic prosperity when we were continuing to bleed manufacturing and service jobs.

Here's video of Bush PRAISING the housing boom, and how he could make it easier for poor people to buy houses. .

Now you're really being an idiot! The "Cuban Crime Wave" was caused by Castro emptying his prisons and mental institutions and sending them to the US. That isn't what is happening now...these are good people who are simply trying to escape the collapse of yet another Communist failure!

So what's to keep Miguel Díaz-Canel from doing that now. You get it wrong about the Cuban Crime Wave. The first group of people who came over sought asylum in the Peruvian Embassy because of a downturn in the Cuban Economy, and Jimmy Carter made the mistake of welcoming them, encouraging the boatlift. Then Castro just fucked him by emptying his prisons and mental wards.

This is why Biden isn't going to make that mistake.

 

[Oldestyle]

Funny, I remember that Bush was President from 2001 to 2009 and Barney Frank wasn't. But Barney frank was gay dating someone at Fanny Mae, and that's enough of a scandal for you people.

The reality- Bush thought that the housing bubble was fine. It actually created the ILLUSION of economic prosperity when we were continuing to bleed manufacturing and service jobs.

Here's video of Bush PRAISING the housing boom, and how he could make it easier for poor people to buy houses. .






So what's to keep Miguel Díaz-Canel from doing that now. You get it wrong about the Cuban Crime Wave. The first group of people who came over sought asylum in the Peruvian Embassy because of a downturn in the Cuban Economy, and Jimmy Carter made the mistake of welcoming them, encouraging the boatlift. Then Castro just fucked him by emptying his prisons and mental wards.

This is why Biden isn't going to make that mistake.

Oh, bullshit! The reason Biden isn't extending the same welcome to Cuban refugees that he is to South American refugees is that the former vote for Republicans and the latter vote for Democrats! All of the smoke and mirrors you try and use won't obscure that fact! If Cubans voted Democratic, Joe Biden would be sending an "armada" to rescue them!

 

[Oldestyle]

Funny, I remember that Bush was President from 2001 to 2009 and Barney Frank wasn't. But Barney frank was gay dating someone at Fanny Mae, and that's enough of a scandal for you people.

The reality- Bush thought that the housing bubble was fine. It actually created the ILLUSION of economic prosperity when we were continuing to bleed manufacturing and service jobs.

Here's video of Bush PRAISING the housing boom, and how he could make it easier for poor people to buy houses. .






So what's to keep Miguel Díaz-Canel from doing that now. You get it wrong about the Cuban Crime Wave. The first group of people who came over sought asylum in the Peruvian Embassy because of a downturn in the Cuban Economy, and Jimmy Carter made the mistake of welcoming them, encouraging the boatlift. Then Castro just fucked him by emptying his prisons and mental wards.

This is why Biden isn't going to make that mistake.

As for who was warning about the housing crisis? The following sums it rather well...

 

[Oldestyle]

He passed a stimulus package
He saved the Auto Industry when the vultures were circling around GM
He signed Dodd-Frank which kept the banks from fucking this up again.




You mean they returned a child to his rightful guardian. How terrible.

Would that be the stimulus package that Barry and Nancy Pelosi promised would create hundreds of thousands of "shovel ready" jobs, Joey? Or have you forgotten how THAT turned out?

 

[daveman]

Well, first because for a Cuban to get here, they have to get into a leaky boat and risk their lives. We really don't want to be encouraging that sort of shit anymore. The sharks were getting fat.

Should also point out most of the people coming here are from Central America...you know, the place we fucked up for the last century.



With all due respect, the Chinese aren't doing anything to us. The thing is a rich white asshole in a suit moves your job to China, and you blame the Chinese. Except now Chinese workers cost too much, so they are moving the factory to Vietnam.

But it's always easier to hate on a person of color.



Really? Let's look at that. Now I consider the gold standard to be how my Dad lived in the 1960's. Good union job, nice house, vacation property up North. Mom only had to work part time.

Then Republicans started fucking it up, starting with Tricky Dick. We've had EIGHT recessions since then, and seven of them started when Republicans were in charge. The rich used every one of those to undercut working people making good wages, making us all wanting to accept slightly lower wages.

Now for Democrats. We had a surge of middle class prosperity under JFK and LBJ. We had a surge of middle class gains under Clinton and we have had a surge of them under Obama. (you were probably too busy huffing and puffing at the thought of a black guy in the White House to notice). Carter's economic performance wasn't as bad as people remember. He actually added a net 10 million jobs to the economy. (Just not enough to accommodate all the Baby Boomers who were entering the economy at the time.)

Now, the thing is, I voted for Republican's all the way up until McCain. So, I guess I can take some accountability and admit that I have contributed to the problem. But at least I recognize the problem.

Commie propaganda is less than compelling, though I acknowledge it has fertile ground among America-hating leftists.

 

[daveman]

As for Cubans and leaky boats? I'm still waiting to hear an intelligent response to my question why Cubans are being treated differently than immigrants from South America! Is it because they tend to vote Republican?

That, and they highlight the utter failure of Communism.

 

[daveman]

Of course you can own an idea, you buffoon! What do you think a patent is? Are you really this clueless, Joey?

The Great Recession was caused by a massive collapse of the housing bubble...something that Bush warned Congress about...but people like Barney Frank ignored. Barack Obama gave us the worst recovery from a recession since The Great Depression. His total cluelessness about economics had the economy recovering at such a slow rate that millions were out of work for years.

Comrade Iosef is completely unable to criticize his Communist Chinese masters.

 

[JoeB131]

Oh, bullshit! The reason Biden isn't extending the same welcome to Cuban refugees that he is to South American refugees is that the former vote for Republicans and the latter vote for Democrats! All of the smoke and mirrors you try and use won't obscure that fact! If Cubans voted Democratic, Joe Biden would be sending an "armada" to rescue them!

Three points. Most of the refugees are from Central America, not South America. Is geography one of those things you right wingers struggle with, like math and science and common decency?

Second, Biden has hardly been welcoming them. Kamala has blatantly told them to stay home. We are still detaining them, just not throwing kids in cages like Trump did. There's a big gulf between "openly welcoming them" and "Not being a dickhead"

Third point.... The policy of not inviting Cubans to defect started after Carter got hit with the Cuban Crime Wave. Eventually, we got Castro to take his crooks and crazies back. But the threat that he could pull that shit again has kept us from trying to score cheap points by inviting Cubans to defect.

As for who was warning about the housing crisis? The following sums it rather well...

But what did they Actually do about it? Um. nothing. They didn't tighten up regulations on the banks, even when they controlled congress. The housing boom created the ILLUSION of prosperity when all these middle class idiots bought McMansions they thought they could flip.

Would that be the stimulus package that Barry and Nancy Pelosi promised would create hundreds of thousands of "shovel ready" jobs, Joey? Or have you forgotten how THAT turned out?

Uh, yeah. What I remember was that we went from a high of 10% unemployment in 2009 to 4.9% in 2016.

Of course, as bad as Bush was, his presidency seems positively utopian compared to the horror show Trump inflicted on us.

 

[basquebromance]

peace without freedom is meaningless, my friends

 

[easyt65]

Democrats don't hate Cubans - they love Communism / Communists.

 

[Oldestyle]

Three points. Most of the refugees are from Central America, not South America. Is geography one of those things you right wingers struggle with, like math and science and common decency?

Second, Biden has hardly been welcoming them. Kamala has blatantly told them to stay home. We are still detaining them, just not throwing kids in cages like Trump did. There's a big gulf between "openly welcoming them" and "Not being a dickhead"

Third point.... The policy of not inviting Cubans to defect started after Carter got hit with the Cuban Crime Wave. Eventually, we got Castro to take his crooks and crazies back. But the threat that he could pull that shit again has kept us from trying to score cheap points by inviting Cubans to defect.



But what did they Actually do about it? Um. nothing. They didn't tighten up regulations on the banks, even when they controlled congress. The housing boom created the ILLUSION of prosperity when all these middle class idiots bought McMansions they thought they could flip.

You're back to wearing political "blinders" again...aren't you, Joey! Of course Biden has been welcoming them! Pretending that his Administration hasn't because Kamala Harris made that pathetic "don't come!" speech that NOBODY took seriously is laughable!

You don't really have a comeback for the timeline I cited...do you, Joey? It's obvious that it was the GOP and Bush that were waving red flags and warning about a serious crash if Freddie and Fannie continued to operate the way they were...and it was the Democrats that tried to paint those warnings as the Republicans hating poor people who couldn't afford to buy a house! Listen to Barney Frank and tell me that it was the GOP that screwed the pooch on that issue! He was 100% wrong and he NEVER took the heat for it that he should have!

Uh, yeah. What I remember was that we went from a high of 10% unemployment in 2009 to 4.9% in 2016.

Of course, as bad as Bush was, his presidency seems positively utopian compared to the horror show Trump inflicted on us.

 

[Oldestyle]

Three points. Most of the refugees are from Central America, not South America. Is geography one of those things you right wingers struggle with, like math and science and common decency?

Second, Biden has hardly been welcoming them. Kamala has blatantly told them to stay home. We are still detaining them, just not throwing kids in cages like Trump did. There's a big gulf between "openly welcoming them" and "Not being a dickhead"

Third point.... The policy of not inviting Cubans to defect started after Carter got hit with the Cuban Crime Wave. Eventually, we got Castro to take his crooks and crazies back. But the threat that he could pull that shit again has kept us from trying to score cheap points by inviting Cubans to defect.



But what did they Actually do about it? Um. nothing. They didn't tighten up regulations on the banks, even when they controlled congress. The housing boom created the ILLUSION of prosperity when all these middle class idiots bought McMansions they thought they could flip.



Uh, yeah. What I remember was that we went from a high of 10% unemployment in 2009 to 4.9% in 2016.

Of course, as bad as Bush was, his presidency seems positively utopian compared to the horror show Trump inflicted on us.

As for unemployment going down? That wasn't because of anything Barry did! That was caused in large part by the oil and natural gas boom brought about by fracking advances...something that Barry Big Ears actively opposed.

What horror show did Trump inflict on us? You mean the historically good numbers that we had for employment before Covid shut down the World's economies? Biden would KILL to do half as well as Trump did and he was left with the perfect scenario for a huge turnaround! That isn't happening however because Biden brought in the same idiots to work in his White House that Barry had in his...and they didn't have a clue about Economics THEN and they don't have a clue NOW!

 

[struth]

I posted links to their new constitution. They didn't vote for Communism. They voted for more moderate socialism and property rights among other things.

The problems that are sparking the protests are around the covid vaccine and their economy.

Do you really care if they choose some socialism?

has nothing about these protest are about covid it’s their economy stupid…their socialist economy…that yes, has f’ed up their healthcare and ability to get vaccines

 

[JoeB131]

You're back to wearing political "blinders" again...aren't you, Joey! Of course Biden has been welcoming them! Pretending that his Administration hasn't because Kamala Harris made that pathetic "don't come!" speech that NOBODY took seriously is laughable!

The only difference is that Biden is following the laws on political asylum that Trump ignored. The thing is, most of these people would qualify as political refugees, more than the Cubans would.

You don't really have a comeback for the timeline I cited...do you, Joey? It's obvious that it was the GOP and Bush that were waving red flags and warning about a serious crash if Freddie and Fannie continued to operate the way they were..

There's no need for a comeback.

Bush controlled the White House.
Bush controlled both houses of Congress.
Bush tauted home ownership as a good thing, because if covered up the other failures in his economy.

Why is it you guys always try to pretend you weren't in charge when things go south?

As for unemployment going down? That wasn't because of anything Barry did! That was caused in large part by the oil and natural gas boom brought about by fracking advances...something that Barry Big Ears actively opposed.

Fracking didn't employ that many people. I know you fantasize that the despoiling of the environment is a good thing.

What horror show did Trump inflict on us? You mean the historically good numbers that we had for employment before Covid shut down the World's economies? Biden would KILL to do half as well as Trump did and he was left with the perfect scenario for a huge turnaround! That isn't happening however because Biden brought in the same idiots to work in his White House that Barry had in his...and they didn't have a clue about Economics THEN and they don't have a clue NOW!

Uh, let's review, shall we.

600,000 dead.
65 million jobs lost
Trump is the first president since Hoover to post a net jobs loss
Riots in the streets.
200,000 businesses lost
The average life expectancy of Americans declined by 1.5 years.

Trump, like Bush, inherited a good economy and then proceeded to fuck it up with the usual bad Republican ideas.

 

[justoffal]

Obama lifted sanctions against Cuba and normalized relations. Trump changed that.

Exactly in effect Obama was saying that it's okay for Cuba to murder its own citizens to deny them the basic necessities of life and to force them to live in a shixthole where there is no such thing as freedom of speech freedom of thought freedom of expression.... That would be because Obama's congenital father Frank Marshall Davis was an avid communist himself.

Jo