Democrats demand mural of Iryna Zarutska be destroyed. Dems say it is DIVISIVE!!!

[Zincwarrior]

This is really important. What was the price of gas again? Holy shit!

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Okay, and how did that make your life any harder or more difficult?

Would it have made his life harder or more difficult if the races were reversed? If it doesn't make it harder when the guy is white then it doesn't make it harder if he's black.

But we all know exactly what you would say in that eventuality. You would outright call the white family racist MAGAts.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Okay, and how did that make your life any harder or more difficult?

Where the **** do you loons get the idea that Black people can't be racist ?

 

[JoeB131]

You all use all kinds of tragedies to advance your racism claims. Nearly every white cop or other person who does anything to a black person, racism is the first motive that most dems run to.

Oh, bullshit. The police kill about 300 black people every year. Most of them, it does without comment, because the dumbass pulled a gun or a knife on them.

The times when a big deal is made are when it's something particularly horrific, like plugging sixteen rounds into a kid, or shooting a kid with a toy, or strangling a guy for nine minutes.

Then why is it every time there is a white on black murder, it’s never about mental health, it was “racism”?

Because, as I stated, that's rarely the case. White people get treatment and medication more often than black people do.

Of course it wasn’t the issue, because it was a black on white murder, those things tend to get swept under the carpet. If the races were reversed, mental health wouldn’t even be being discussed, it would be “this is what maga racism causes!”

Oh, quite the contrary. I remember when Dylan Roof shot those nine people in a church, and there was a lot of hand-wringing about how this nice boy could have turned out so bad.

Of course, there was nothing wrong with him other than being a little racist shithead who wasn't taught any better.

As opposed to Brown, who had YEARS of mental health diagnoses saying he was schizophrenic, but he didn't get treatment

Well, that’s fine, YOU might not, but a crime such as this would NEVER be called racism, because the victim was white. To me, that’s very inconsistent

Again, you are far more likely to get the death penalty for a black person killing a white, especially if it's a woman or a cop, than a white person killing a black person. In fact, the only cases I can think of where a racist white person was executed were the James Byrd dragging murder. Those guys were straight-up neo-Nazis. (and one of them didn't get executed.)

Where the **** do you loons get the idea that Black people can't be racist ?

I've been over this.

Racism requires the institutionalized power to discriminate.

Black people can hate you all day, but they really can't do anything legally to make your life more difficult.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Oh, bullshit. The police kill about 300 black people every year. Most of them, it does without comment, because the dumbass pulled a gun or a knife on them.

The times when a big deal is made are when it's something particularly horrific, like plugging sixteen rounds into a kid, or shooting a kid with a toy, or strangling a guy for nine minutes.



Because, as I stated, that's rarely the case. White people get treatment and medication more often than black people do.




Oh, quite the contrary. I remember when Dylan Roof shot those nine people in a church, and there was a lot of hand-wringing about how this nice boy could have turned out so bad.

Of course, there was nothing wrong with him other than being a little racist shithead who wasn't taught any better.

As opposed to Brown, who had YEARS of mental health diagnoses saying he was schizophrenic, but he didn't get treatment



Again, you are far more likely to get the death penalty for a black person killing a white, especially if it's a woman or a cop, than a white person killing a black person. In fact, the only cases I can think of where a racist white person was executed were the James Byrd dragging murder. Those guys were straight-up neo-Nazis. (and one of them didn't get executed.)



I've been over this.

Racism requires the institutionalized power to discriminate.

Black people can hate you all day, but they really can't do anything legally to make your life more difficult.

What the **** can I do legally to make a Black persons life more difficult ? What laws are are there that are different for White people and Black. This isn't the Democratic party Jim Crow era anymore loon.

 

[JoeB131]

What the **** can I do legally to make a Black persons life more difficult ? What laws are are there that are different for White people and Black. This isn't the Democratic party Jim Crow era anymore loon.

Just look at how the cops treat you vs. how they treat a black person they pull over.

Hey, check this out. This is how the cops treated a black man who was just minding his own business in a park.



The only reason why we know about this is because three racists later chased this man down and murdered him, and the police thought this made them look good.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Oh, bullshit. The police kill about 300 black people every year. Most of them, it does without comment, because the dumbass pulled a gun or a knife on them.

The times when a big deal is made are when it's something particularly horrific, like plugging sixteen rounds into a kid, or shooting a kid with a toy, or strangling a guy for nine minutes.



Because, as I stated, that's rarely the case. White people get treatment and medication more often than black people do.




Oh, quite the contrary. I remember when Dylan Roof shot those nine people in a church, and there was a lot of hand-wringing about how this nice boy could have turned out so bad.

Of course, there was nothing wrong with him other than being a little racist shithead who wasn't taught any better.

As opposed to Brown, who had YEARS of mental health diagnoses saying he was schizophrenic, but he didn't get treatment

Yes, he did. He was prescribed medications but stopped taking them.

Again, you are far more likely to get the death penalty for a black person killing a white, especially if it's a woman or a cop, than a white person killing a black person. In fact, the only cases I can think of where a racist white person was executed were the James Byrd dragging murder. Those guys were straight-up neo-Nazis. (and one of them didn't get executed.)



I've been over this.

Racism requires the institutionalized power to discriminate.

No, it does not. Racism and racial discrimination are two different things. Obviously racial discrimination is predicated on racism but racism does not require discrimination to exist. Racism in and of itself is merely an idea that another race is inferior in some way and many whites are labeled as racist for this reason alone even though no discrimination took place.

Black people can hate you all day, but they really can't do anything legally to make your life more difficult.

Hating someone for their skin color is the very definition of racism.

 

[drudge X]

Well, maybe because if you are a white person, you get mental health treatment when you need it, you have plenty of privilege and opportunity, and you are less likely to bed hungry at night, sleeping in a cardboard box.

Brown and his family begged for years to get him help. Help didn't come.

But let's put up a racist mural funded by a South African Racist whose still mad the darkies have equality now.

Sorry, mental heath won’t fly when he specifically targeted a white person.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Just look at how the cops treat you vs. how they treat a black person they pull over.

Hey, check this out. This is how the cops treated a black man who was just minding his own business in a park.



The only reason why we know about this is because three racists later chased this man down and murdered him, and the police thought this made them look good.

I've had cops pull guns on me several times when I was younger dumbass. They harassed the shit out of me in my teens.

Do you know that more White people are killed by cops than black, of course you don't because it doesn't fit the narrative that your puppet masters force feed you. The most dangerous group for the Black community has always been the leftist and the Democratic party.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

There's a school of thought that racism requires institutional power, therefore black people can't be racist.

They can hate white people, to be sure, but they can't be racism because they can't make the lives of white people collectively worse.

What a stupid thing to say. Everyone can be racist you moron and besides, blacks have made life much much worse for whites by all of their black on white crime and by all the jobs whites have been denied thru affirmative action.

 

[JoeB131]

Sorry, mental heath won’t fly when he specifically targeted a white person.

So are you saying it would have been okay if he killed a black person?

Nope, I doubt this guy ever sees trial, given that he is mentally ill.

I've had cops pull guns on me several times when I was younger dumbass. They harassed the shit out of me in my teens.

Then you must have been a real shithead. My brother was like that in his teens. He likes to blame that our parents were going through terminal illnesses at the time. My response was that I was going through the same, but managed to serve my country and earn a college degree.

Here's the thing. They didn't shoot you because you were white. That's better than Laquan McDonald or Tamir Rice got.

Do you know that more White people are killed by cops than black, of course you don't because it doesn't fit the narrative that your puppet masters force feed you. The most dangerous group for the Black community has always been the leftist and the Democratic party.

Whites are 70% of the population, but less than 50% of the people shot by police.

Now, here's the ironic thing. Police departments stopped reporting the race of people they were shooting after 2021. To the point where "Race Unknown" went from 77 in 2017 to 341 in 2022

People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2024| Statista

The trend of fatal police shootings in the U.S. seems to only be increasing each year, with Black civilians having the highest rates of being killed by police.

www.statista.com

Now, to stand up for the cops, 99% of the people they shoot, it's justified. Pull a gun or a knife on a cop, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Cops execute 10 million arrests and 40 million traffic stops without killing anyone, to their credit. That said, when it does go wrong (Floyd, Rice, McDonald) it's usually something pretty horrific. And almost always to black people.

What a stupid thing to say. Everyone can be racist you moron and besides, blacks have made life much much worse for whites by all of their black on white crime and by all the jobs whites have been denied thru affirmative action.

Um, no racism requires institutional power.

Affirmative Action has mostly benefited WHITE WOMEN.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

So are you saying it would have been okay if he killed a black person?

Nope, I doubt this guy ever sees trial, given that he is mentally ill.



Then you must have been a real shithead. My brother was like that in his teens. He likes to blame that our parents were going through terminal illnesses at the time. My response was that I was going through the same, but managed to serve my country and earn a college degree.

Here's the thing. They didn't shoot you because you were white. That's better than Laquan McDonald or Tamir Rice got.



Whites are 70% of the population, but less than 50% of the people shot by police.

Now, here's the ironic thing. Police departments stopped reporting the race of people they were shooting after 2021. To the point where "Race Unknown" went from 77 in 2017 to 341 in 2022

People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2024| Statista

The trend of fatal police shootings in the U.S. seems to only be increasing each year, with Black civilians having the highest rates of being killed by police.

www.statista.com

Now, to stand up for the cops, 99% of the people they shoot, it's justified. Pull a gun or a knife on a cop, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Cops execute 10 million arrests and 40 million traffic stops without killing anyone, to their credit. That said, when it does go wrong (Floyd, Rice, McDonald) it's usually something pretty horrific. And almost always to black people.



Um, no racism requires institutional power.

So institutional power was required for my opinion that the Michael Brown shooting was justified? You called me and others racist for that and no institutional power was required for me to hold that opinion nor was it required for you to call me racist for it.

 

[JoeB131]

So institutional power was required for my opinion that the Michael Brown shooting was justified? You called me and others racist for that and no institutional power was required for me to hold that opinion nor was it required for you to call me racist for it.

Are you still following me around like a sad puppy, hoping I'll pay attention to you?

The fact no one was held accountable for Brown's murder is racism in action. A racist DA swept the whole thing under the rug.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Are you still following me around like a sad puppy, hoping I'll pay attention to you?

Did you say you had me on ignore when you actually don't? Another lie?

The fact no one was held accountable for Brown's murder is racism in action.

Irrelevant. I'm not talking about whether or not racism was a factor in the prosecution of the case, I'm talking about how you say institutional power is required for racism when you called me racist for saying the shooting was justified even though institutional power was not necessary for me to express an opinion on the shooting.

For this institutional power argument to work, you're going to have to logically explain how institutional power factors in when it is not required to express an individual opinion nor is it even required for an individual to exhibit actual racism such as calling a black person "n****r".

Institutional power might be required to commit concrete widespread racial discrimination by multiple persons, entities and agencies but is not required for an abstract idea or opinion. Anyone can have an opinion on a racial matter with or without institutional power in place.

So explain your logic here: How is it that a white person expressing the opinion without institutional power that the Michael Brown shooting was justified makes him racist while a black person expressing the opinion that all whites are racist without that same power does not make him racist?

A racist DA swept the whole thing under the rug.

First of all, a lie. All evidence was turned over to the grand jury so nothing was "swept under the rug". Secondly, McCulloch is a Democrat.

 

[JoeB131]

Did you say you had me on ignore when you actually don't? Another lie?

Nope, i occassionally peak to see if you are saying anything interesting.

You rarely do.

Irrelevant. I'm not talking about whether or not racism was a factor in the prosecution of the case, I'm talking about how you say institutional power is required for racism when you called me racist for saying the shooting was justified even though institutional power was not necessary for me to express an opinion on the shooting.

For this institutional power argument to work, you're going to have to logically explain how institutional power factors in when it is not required to express an individual opinion nor is it even required for an individual to exhibit actual racism such as calling a black person "n****r".

That's like saying you are against killing cows, but you still order that big greasy cheeseburger.

YOu are perfectly fine with institutionalized racism and spend way too much time justifying it.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Nope, i occassionally peak to see if you are saying anything interesting.

You rarely do.

Then why do it?

That's like saying you are against killing cows, but you still order that big greasy cheeseburger.

Only if institutional power was required to kill the cow.

YOu are perfectly fine with institutionalized racism and spend way too much time justifying it.

Being that you simply doubled down on the "You're a racist!" rhetoric, can I take that to mean you can't explain how someone can express an opinion without institutional power?.

 

[JoeB131]

Is he still talking?

 

[ThisIsMe]

And none of what you said below changes the fact that black on white murders get swept under the rug.

Oh, bullshit. The police kill about 300 black people every year. Most of them, it does without comment, because the dumbass pulled a gun or a knife on them.

When was the last time a white person that was killed by a black person where the charge was racism on the part of the black person. Never happens.
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The times when a big deal is made are when it's something particularly horrific, like plugging sixteen rounds into a kid, or shooting a kid with a toy, or strangling a guy for nine minutes.

Yes, and they all made national news, for weeks, and Sharpton showed up and there were riots and elected officials who got on TV and said how horrible it was…but a white girl gets her throat slit on a subway, and nothing..memory holed in a week, or a black guy runs over a bunch of people at a parade, anyone heard about him lately? No, a week after it happened, nobody reported on it anymore.

Because, as I stated, that's rarely the case. White people get treatment and medication more often than black people do.

Why do you think that is?

Oh, quite the contrary. I remember when Dylan Roof shot those nine people in a church, and there was a lot of hand-wringing about how this nice boy could have turned out so bad.

Of course, there was nothing wrong with him other than being a little racist shithead who wasn't taught any better.

As opposed to Brown, who had YEARS of mental health diagnoses saying he was schizophrenic, but he didn't get treatment

Yeah, and he was covered for weeks because of it, it stayed in the news cycle for a long time, but the media tries to memory hole these things if the races are reversed.

Again, you are far more likely to get the death penalty for a black person killing a white, especially if it's a woman or a cop, than a white person killing a black person. In fact, the only cases I can think of where a racist white person was executed were the James Byrd dragging murder. Those guys were straight-up neo-Nazis. (and one of them didn't get executed.)

Really? Then why are crimes in inner cities under reported to the fbi crime data base?

 

[JoeB131]

When was the last time a white person that was killed by a black person where the charge was racism on the part of the black person. Never happens.

Really?

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Yes, and they all made national news, for weeks, and Sharpton showed up and there were riots and elected officials who got on TV and said how horrible it was…but a white girl gets her throat slit on a subway, and nothing..memory holed in a week, or a black guy runs over a bunch of people at a parade, anyone heard about him lately? No, a week after it happened, nobody reported on it anymore.

Well, a white guy plowed into a crowd last night in LA, because he was drunk out of his gourd, so let's see how long that plays for. Many of the people at the parade were Asian, but I'm guessing the proximate cause was DUI.

But of course, you are talking about the Waukeshaw WI incident.

Oh, wait, that guy had a long history of mental illness as well. Oh, and despite that, and his crazy behavior in court, he got 762 years in prison (Wisconsin doesn't have the Death Penalty).

Why do you think that is?

White privilege and affluence.

If a white person has a family member who suddenly starts hearing voices, that person gets sent to a doctor, gets a prescription, treatment, and medication. Insurance pays for it all.

If a black person has the same situation, they are told by social services that they are overwhelmed, and come back in a month, and maybe we can fit you in.

Yeah, and he was covered for weeks because of it, it stayed in the news cycle for a long time, but the media tries to memory hole these things if the races are reversed.

Or because they never happen. Can you find a story where a black kid went into a white church and shot a bunch of people because he spent hours on black power websites? No, you can't because it never happens.

Really? Then why are crimes in inner cities under reported to the fbi crime data base?

Well, they aren't, but never mind.

If anything, they are probably over-reported, because big cities WILL work with the FBI, but Moosejaw County won't report the homicide at the trailer park over a meth deal gone bad.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Really?

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Where are the examples of black people killing white people that stay in the news for weeks, where the people go out and fill the streets.

All you showed is black people get convicted of crimes, like all people do, that wasn’t what I was asking for.

By the way, black people are convicted of hate crimes at much less rate than white folks.

Well, a white guy plowed into a crowd last night in LA, because he was drunk out of his gourd, so let's see how long that plays for. Many of the people at the parade were Asian, but I'm guessing the proximate cause was DUI.

Probably not for long, now if that crowd had been a BLM rally or a democrat protest riot, it would already be characterized as a racist incident.

But of course, you are talking about the Waukeshaw WI incident.

Oh, wait, that guy had a long history of mental illness as well. Oh, and despite that, and his crazy behavior in court, he got 762 years in prison (Wisconsin doesn't have the Death Penalty).

Yes, but you only know that because you had to look for it. That story dropped out of the news just a couple of days after it happened.

White privilege and affluence.

If a white person has a family member who suddenly starts hearing voices, that person gets sent to a doctor, gets a prescription, treatment, and medication. Insurance pays for it all.

If a black person has the same situation, they are told by social services that they are overwhelmed, and come back in a month, and maybe we can fit you in.

I’ve not heard any stories of black people who are hearing voices being turned away from help. However, if it is happening, what evidence do you have that they were turned away because they were black.

Or because they never happen. Can you find a story where a black kid went into a white church and shot a bunch of people because he spent hours on black power websites? No, you can't because it never happens.

Nope, I can’t, but that doesn’t mean black on white crime doesn’t happen.you just almost never hear it reported, or, as we’ve seen, most left wing sites are neglect to cover it.

Of the crimes that do occur, you don’t think those people were influenced by things? Sure, we don’t call them “black power websites”, we call them al Sharpton, mother jones, slate, salon, progressive satellite radio.

I’ve posted numerous times about the constant hate and rage baiting that is spewed on those Sirius Xm progressive radio stations. 6 hours a day, 5 days a week.

Well, they aren't, but never mind.

If anything, they are probably over-reported, because big cities WILL work with the FBI, but Moosejaw County won't report the homicide at the trailer park over a meth deal gone bad.

The FBI only tracks crimes reported to police. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics' National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS), a significant portion of crime never enters official records:
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• Violent Crime: Only about 45% of violent victimizations were reported to police in 2023.
• Property Crime: Only about 30% of property crimes were reported during the same period.

A lot of crime goes unreported to the database.