Democrats Are Going to Prosecute Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth

konradv said:
What do you call orders to leave no survivors? Rand Paul seems to think that’s what’s happening.
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Not true. They rescued and treated several already.

www.independent.co.uk

Navy holding two prisoners who survived US strike in Caribbean: report

The detention of survivors could pose legal and intelligence challenges for the Trump administration
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
taskandpurpose.com

United States releasing survivors of latest airstrike in the Caribbean currently held by the Navy

Two people on an alleged drug smuggling boat were recovered and detained by the Navy Thursday after the vessel was destroyed.
taskandpurpose.com taskandpurpose.com

MSN

www.msn.com
 
candycorn said:
The man and his orange blob boss are both sick individuals.
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I agree, a second bomb is much worse than leaving them stranded in the middle of the ocean to be eaten by sharks.......

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j-mac said:
Be careful what you advocate for. If that's true then the only end game is total destruction of the opponent. Is that really what you want?
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Do you support attacking survivors?

Are you that callous?
 
Nostra said:
Can we see your pissy pants posts about Obama droning an American to death overseas with zero no conviction, or even charges?

No?

Ok, hypocrisy noted, and laughed at. :auiqs.jpg:
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Guess what. If you want to make this about “hypocrisy,” at least stay with the actual facts. This episode looks nothing like the (still heavily contested) legal framework the Obama administration used in certain targeted killings. Those relied on DOJ memos and the AUMF and were openly challenged in court, not casually waved through. And for the record, I’ve always supported any ruling that limits executive power or holds a president legally accountable.

I don’t care if it’s Obama or Trump. A president swears an oath, and that makes following the law non-negotiable. If they cross the line, I want accountability, period.

You, on the other hand, seem to think presidents should get a free pass as long as they’re on your team. That’s a you problem, not a principle.

And now to the actual point: this Trinidad strike is a different animal entirely. It appears to involve ordering lethal force against survivors in the water, that’s extrajudicial killing, plain and simple. An appeal to hypocrisy doesn’t answer whether the conduct violated international law or basic human decency. At best it embarrasses both sides. At worst it tries to bury whether a war crime was committed.

Accountability isn’t “lawfare.” It’s the rule of law.
 
kyzr said:
Not true. They rescued and treated several already.

www.independent.co.uk

Navy holding two prisoners who survived US strike in Caribbean: report

The detention of survivors could pose legal and intelligence challenges for the Trump administration
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
taskandpurpose.com

United States releasing survivors of latest airstrike in the Caribbean currently held by the Navy

Two people on an alleged drug smuggling boat were recovered and detained by the Navy Thursday after the vessel was destroyed.
taskandpurpose.com taskandpurpose.com

MSN

www.msn.com
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Same two? Convenient! What about what Hegseth said? That needs addressing.
 
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forkup said:
Guess what. If you want to make this about “hypocrisy,” at least stay with the actual facts. This episode looks nothing like the (still heavily contested) legal framework the Obama administration used in certain targeted killings. Those relied on DOJ memos and the AUMF and were openly challenged in court, not casually waved through. And for the record, I’ve always supported any ruling that limits executive power or holds a president legally accountable.

I don’t care if it’s Obama or Trump. A president swears an oath, and that makes following the law non-negotiable. If they cross the line, I want accountability, period.

You, on the other hand, seem to think presidents should get a free pass as long as they’re on your team. That’s a you problem, not a principle.

And now to the actual point: this Trinidad strike is a different animal entirely. It appears to involve ordering lethal force against survivors in the water, that’s extrajudicial killing, plain and simple. An appeal to hypocrisy doesn’t answer whether the conduct violated international law or basic human decency. At best it embarrasses both sides. At worst it tries to bury whether a war crime was committed.

Accountability isn’t “lawfare.” It’s the rule of law.
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So you don’t have any posts complaining about Obama droning an AMERICAN to death with no court approval.

Got it.

Dismissed.


Barry sure was busy droning INNOCENT CIVILIANS.


President Obama's recent response to the tragic deaths of two civilians, U.S. citizen Warren Weinstein and Italian citizen Giovanni Lo Porto, in a January 2015 "targeted killing" strike in Pakistan, was remarkable and unprecedented — yet it should not have been.

The president publicly announced the men had mistakenly been killed as a result of a U.S. strike, and he apologized for their deaths. He promised a thorough independent review of their killings. And he said their families would be compensated. All of this was exactly the right thing to do.

But the contrast between the administration's response to the deaths of these Western — and white — civilians and those of the many hundreds of non-Western civilians who have died in the administration's lethal force program is stark and glaring. No other victim's family has received official acknowledgement and an apology, let alone been promised an investigation or compensation.

That's fundamentally unfair, and it increases the hostility against the United States in countries where the CIA and the Pentagon carry out their lethal strikes.

Today, we and other leading rights groups wrote to the president, urging him to "adopt the same approach to all other U.S. counterterrorism strikes in which civilians have been injured or killed — regardless of their nationalities." And we provided him with examples of 10 U.S. strikes in Pakistan and Yemen, with which the administration should start its investigation and acknowledgment. Each of these strikes has been investigated by rights groups, including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and the Open Society Foundations, and some by journalists.

www.aclu.org

Obama Apologized for the Drone Killings of Two Western Victims. What About Everyone Else? | ACLU

www.aclu.org www.aclu.org
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Nostra said:
Nobody claimed all drugs are stopped, Stupid.
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Trump did.

Trump claims US has stopped 85% of drug traffickers ...​

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Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com › video
4 hours ago — Trump claims US has stopped 85% of drug traffickers by sea, threatens those on land. CSIS Future of Venezuela Initiative representative Ryan ...
Nostra said:
And drugs seized at a port isn’t making your case, you blithering simpleton.
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It sure is Q-NUT.
 
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