Democrats Are Going to Prosecute Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth

[konradv]

So you don’t have any posts complaining about Obama droning an AMERICAN to death with no court approval.

Got it.

Dismissed.


Barry sure was busy droning INNOCENT CIVILIANS.


President Obama's recent response to the tragic deaths of two civilians, U.S. citizen Warren Weinstein and Italian citizen Giovanni Lo Porto, in a January 2015 "targeted killing" strike in Pakistan, was remarkable and unprecedented — yet it should not have been.

The president publicly announced the men had mistakenly been killed as a result of a U.S. strike, and he apologized for their deaths. He promised a thorough independent review of their killings. And he said their families would be compensated. All of this was exactly the right thing to do.

But the contrast between the administration's response to the deaths of these Western — and white — civilians and those of the many hundreds of non-Western civilians who have died in the administration's lethal force program is stark and glaring. No other victim's family has received official acknowledgement and an apology, let alone been promised an investigation or compensation.

That's fundamentally unfair, and it increases the hostility against the United States in countries where the CIA and the Pentagon carry out their lethal strikes.

Today, we and other leading rights groups wrote to the president, urging him to "adopt the same approach to all other U.S. counterterrorism strikes in which civilians have been injured or killed — regardless of their nationalities." And we provided him with examples of 10 U.S. strikes in Pakistan and Yemen, with which the administration should start its investigation and acknowledgment. Each of these strikes has been investigated by rights groups, including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and the Open Society Foundations, and some by journalists.

Obama Apologized for the Drone Killings of Two Western Victims. What About Everyone Else? | ACLU

www.aclu.org

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Did Obama order survivors be murdered, like Trump and Hegseth?

 

[Nostra]

Did Obama order survivors be murdered, like Trump and Hegseth?

Prove he did.

Third hand hearsay from anonymous”sources” don’t count, Simp.

 

[konradv]

Prove he did.

Third hand hearsay from anonymous”sources” don’t count, Simp.

NYT does. Prove otherwise.

 

[Rawley]

Did Obama order survivors be murdered, like Trump and Hegseth?

"according to two people with direct knowledge of the operation" Yup

 

[konradv]

"according to two people with direct knowledge of the operation" Yup…

…Trump and Hegseth are killers.

 

[Rawley]

…Trump and Hegseth are killers.

So are Obama and Biden. But they are your cult's "killers' So you luv you some Obama and Biden

 

[d0gbreath]

The secretary of War crimes.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

You suck at math.

So, 85% of drugs were coming from Venezuela?

Just like Trump and his cult, you suck at logic.

 

[forkup]

So you don’t have any posts complaining about Obama droning an AMERICAN to death with no court approval.

Got it.

Dismissed.


Barry sure was busy droning INNOCENT CIVILIANS.


President Obama's recent response to the tragic deaths of two civilians, U.S. citizen Warren Weinstein and Italian citizen Giovanni Lo Porto, in a January 2015 "targeted killing" strike in Pakistan, was remarkable and unprecedented — yet it should not have been.

The president publicly announced the men had mistakenly been killed as a result of a U.S. strike, and he apologized for their deaths. He promised a thorough independent review of their killings. And he said their families would be compensated. All of this was exactly the right thing to do.

But the contrast between the administration's response to the deaths of these Western — and white — civilians and those of the many hundreds of non-Western civilians who have died in the administration's lethal force program is stark and glaring. No other victim's family has received official acknowledgement and an apology, let alone been promised an investigation or compensation.

That's fundamentally unfair, and it increases the hostility against the United States in countries where the CIA and the Pentagon carry out their lethal strikes.

Today, we and other leading rights groups wrote to the president, urging him to "adopt the same approach to all other U.S. counterterrorism strikes in which civilians have been injured or killed — regardless of their nationalities." And we provided him with examples of 10 U.S. strikes in Pakistan and Yemen, with which the administration should start its investigation and acknowledgment. Each of these strikes has been investigated by rights groups, including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and the Open Society Foundations, and some by journalists.

Obama Apologized for the Drone Killings of Two Western Victims. What About Everyone Else? | ACLU

www.aclu.org

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Funny that you think you can dismiss an opinion on killing unarmed people because I can’t produce a forum post from a decade ago, especially when I wasn’t even here for 95% of the Obama years. But even if I had been, it wouldn’t get you one inch closer to justifying this strike.

You’re not making a moral point, you’re just trying to dodge one.
“Someone else did something bad once, something that might be kind of similar” isn’t an argument, it’s a way to avoid talking about what happened here.

I learned in kindergarten that two wrongs don’t make a right. Strange that I have to explain that to an adult.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I see the cult is performing its usual, embarrassingly dumb act.

"That was horrible, what Biden and Obama did. That's why it's okay that my Orange God does it."

Yes, it's that stupid.

 

[forkup]

I see the cult is performing its usual, embarrassingly dumb act.

"That was horrible, what Biden and Obama did. That's why it's okay that my Orange God does it."

Yes, it's that stupid.

Actually more stupid. Because the similarities don't have to actually be that similar. Doesn't even require "in the ballpark ", somewhere in the same state suffices.

 

[MarathonMike]

OK
Then Obama should be put on trial for drone striking over 800 civilians.

Factually

Your Personal Research Companion

factually.co

Yes, Obama did carry out extensive drone strikes without congressional approval. The evidence shows that Obama authorized 563 strikes, largely by drones, targeting Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen during his two terms - representing ten times more air strikes than his predecessor George W. Bush <a href="Obama’s covert drone war in numbers: ten times more strikes than Bush" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[1]</a>. U.S. civilian intelligence agencies carried out nearly 400 drone strikes in Pakistan and Yemen since 2008 under Obama's leadership, making targeted killings a key feature of his administration's foreign policy <a href="Finally, Obama Breaks His Silence on Drones | Brookings" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[2]</a>.

• The strikes primarily targeted Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen <a href="Obama’s covert drone war in numbers: ten times more strikes than Bush" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[1]</a>
• Civilian casualties were significant, with estimates varying considerably:
• Between 384 and 807 civilian casualties across all strikes <a href="Obama’s covert drone war in numbers: ten times more strikes than Bush" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[1]</a>
• Obama administration's official count: 64 to 116 civilians killed in Pakistan, Yemen, and Africa since 2009 <a href="Obama’s Final Drone Strike Data" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[3]</a> <a href="Obama reveals how many civilians died in U.S. drone attacks" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[4]</a>
• Alternative estimates suggest 492 to 1,100 civilian casualties in Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia since 2002 <a href="Obama’s covert drone war in numbers: ten times more strikes than Bush" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[1]</a>

Obama also aurthorized "Fast and Furious" that armed the Mexican drug Cartels with weapons, one of which was proven to be used in the killing of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry. Barely a peep from our corrupt Media.

 

[Nostra]

NYT does. Prove otherwise.

NYTs?

That would be your third hand hearsay, Simp.

 

[Nostra]

…Trump and Hegseth are killers.

Yep. Killing your drug running buddies.

Sorry that triggers you….oh wait, no I’m not.

 

[Nostra]

So, 85% of drugs were coming from Venezuela?

Just like Trump and his cult, you suck at logic.

Hey Window Licker, you claimed they say they stopped ALL drugs.

Your link didn’t come close to proving someone made that claim.

Keep losing, it’s what you do best.

 

[Nostra]

Funny that you think you can dismiss an opinion on killing unarmed people because I can’t produce a forum post from a decade ago, especially when I wasn’t even here for 95% of the Obama years. But even if I had been, it wouldn’t get you one inch closer to justifying this strike.

You’re not making a moral point, you’re just trying to dodge one.
“Someone else did something bad once, something that might be kind of similar” isn’t an argument, it’s a way to avoid talking about what happened here.

I learned in kindergarten that two wrongs don’t make a right. Strange that I have to explain that to an adult.

Killing American citizens who have not been convicted: wrong.


Killing drug running scum trying to invade the US with poison that could kill numerous Americans: Good.

Strange that I have to explain that.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

"What Obama did was bad. Therefore, its okay if my Orange God does bad stuff."

Right on cue... ^^

 

[Nostra]

I see the cult is performing its usual, embarrassingly dumb act.

"That was horrible, what Biden and Obama did. That's why it's okay that my Orange God does it."

Yes, it's that stupid.

The difference between US citizens being killed vs scumbag drug runners.


The fact you see no difference is all that needs to be said, Simp.

 

[Foxfyre]

"Hegseth order on first Caribbean boat strike, officials say: Kill them all



As two men clung to a stricken, burning ship targeted by SEAL Team 6, the Joint Special Operations commander followed the defense secretary’s order to leave no survivors.


Updated
November 28, 2025 at 4:36 p.m. EST



The longer the U.S. surveillance aircraft followed the boat, the more confident intelligence analysts watching from command centers became that the 11 people on board were ferrying drugs.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth gave a spoken directive, according to two people with direct knowledge of the operation. “The order was to kill everybody,” one of them said.
A missile screamed off the Trinidad coast, striking the vessel and igniting a blaze from bow to stern. For minutes, commanders watched the boat burning on a live drone feed. As the smoke cleared, they got a jolt: Two survivors were clinging to the smoldering wreck.

The Special Operations commander overseeing the Sept. 2 attack — the opening salvo in the Trump administration’s war on suspected drug traffickers in the Western Hemisphere — ordered a second strike to comply with Hegseth’s instructions, two people familiar with the matter said. The two men were blown apart in the water.
Hegseth’s order, which has not been previously reported, adds another dimension to the campaign against suspected drug traffickers.AI Icon

Some current and former U.S. officials and law-of-war experts have said that the Pentagon’s lethal campaign — which has killed more than 80 people to date — is unlawful and may expose those most directly involved to future prosecution."

https://archive.is/XaZrB#selection-373.0-467.236

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/11/28/hegseth-kill-them-all-survivors-boat-strike/

I have to laugh at the few fools on the Right who want Trump to stop prosecuting Democrats. Do they really think that will stop the Democrats from using lawfare?

When the Seditious Six asked military and CIA officers to mutiny against Trump's commands, I said the Dems really wanted leaks to the media. This is what the leaks become- media reports and eventually Democrat lawfare, threat, and prosecutions against Republicans and military officers. Remember the FBI used media stories that they had planted as evidence to go after Trump.

WAPO, the NYT and other leftist media are notorious for using anonymous sources to promote inflammatory nonsense that is dutifully repeated by other leftist media over and over until the most hateful lie becomes 'truth' for those on the left.

I do not believe for a minute that either Trump or Hegseth said 'no survivors.' Do you?

Hegseth dismisses report he demanded no survivors be left in drug boat strike: ‘Biden coddled terrorists, we kill them’

“The declared intent is to stop lethal drugs, destroy narco-boats, and kill the narco-terrorists who are poisoning the American people.”

nypost.com

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Hey Window Licker, you claimed they say they stopped ALL drugs.

Didn't even come close to stopping 85% Trump shoe licker.
Lying Q-NUT.

Your link didn’t come close to proving someone made that claim.

Keep losing, it’s what you do best.

Two record hauls of drugs after your war criminal dear leader started his war crime bombings.