Democrats ARE For Open Borders

[Unkotare]

.... The rule of law does not include separating children from their parents and not reuniting them for three years or longer. ....

Yes it does.

 

[Independent thinker]

Stop with the bullshit. You don't want immigrants here at all and you know it.

Stop with the bullshit. I'm all for legal immigration. I'm even for increasing legal immigration to fit the needs of our economy. But not one person should come here illegally.

 

[Hellbilly]

Stop with the bullshit. I'm all for legal immigration. I'm even for increasing legal immigration to fit the needs of our economy. But not one person should come here illegally.

You and your kind do not want immigration because immigrants vote Democrat.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Uh no, your hero O(zero) was doing that way before orange man.

"The Obama administration did not do that, no. We did not separate children from their parents," former Obama domestic policy adviser Cecilia Muñoz told NPR in May 2018. "This is a new decision, a policy decision put in place by the attorney general," which Muñoz said "puts us in league with the most brutal regimes in the world's history."

It was then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions who instituted the "zero tolerance" policy at the Southern border in April 2018, which resulted in children being separated from their parents who were taken into custody for criminal prosecution.

POLITICS ​

Trump Signs Order To End Family Separations​

A federal judge allowed a lawsuit challenging the policy last June, and Trump issued an executive order ending it.

Still, as NPR's Domenico Montanaro wrote last year, the Trump administration has been unwilling to take the blamefor the policy of family separations because of the political optics.


(full article online)

FACT CHECK: Trump Wrongly States Obama Administration Had Child Separation Policy

Speaking to reporters Tuesday, President Trump restated an earlier falsehood in which he blamed the Obama administration for a policy the Trump administration in fact started.

www.npr.org

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At least 2,700 children _ not 1,900 _ were split from their parents at the border last year under Trump before the policy was stopped by a federal judge on June 26, 2018, according to reporting by The Associated Press. In addition, a report released in February by the Health and Human Services Office of Inspector General found that thousands more children than previously thought might have been taken last year.

Under the Obama administration, a “minuscule” number of children were removed from their parents but only in rare cases, such as a parent being arrested on a drug charge, former U.S. Customs and Border Patrol Protection commissioner Gil Kerlikowske said in a June 2018 Associated Press report.

The false claim about the number of children separated under Obama appears to stem from a 2016 Senate subcommittee report that found his administration oversaw the placement of nearly 90,000 children who arrived at the border alone or without a legal guardian between October 2013 through 2015. Those children were placed with sponsors living in the U.S., typically a parent or legal guardian, according to the same report.

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Trump separated more migrant families at the border than Obama

CLAIM: President Donald Trump separated 1,900 children from their parents at the border while President Barack Obama separated 89,000 children. AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The Trump administration has acknowledged that at least 2,700 children were separated from their parents last year when a...

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[Unkotare]

You and your kind do not want immigration because immigrants vote Democrat.

Bullshit, on several levels.

 

[Independent thinker]

You and your kind do not want immigration because immigrants vote Democrat.

Why are you so racist and judgemental? Why are you so intolerant of others? I already told you several times I have nothing against legal immigration. In fact, it is necessary and I'm fine with increasing it when our economy needs it. I'm totally fine with that. But not one person comes here illegally. I don't mind spraying gunfire at their feets and over their heads if they can't come here legally, through the FRONT door.

 

[BluesLegend]

Oh we are going to DEPORT the illegals. Dems will be lucky if we allow them to say also.

 

[Hellbilly]

Why are you so racist and judgemental?

I’m not racist but I am judgemental.

Why are you so intolerant of others?

Why is anyone intolerant of others?

I already told you several times I have nothing against legal immigration.

It’s not just about you, which is why I said you and your kind.

 

[Hellbilly]

Oh we are going to DEPORT the illegals. Dems will be lucky if we allow them to say also.

Good luck with that.

 

[Independent thinker]

I’m not racist but I am judgemental.

Why is anyone intolerant of others?

It’s not just about you, which is why I said you and your kind.

What exactly is "My Kind", oh tolerant one?

 

[Resnic]

You need no more evidence they want open borders beyond the fact they don't do anything about it. Not doing something when you're in a position to do something shows you want it to happen.

The ones in control are the ones who opened the border, and they do nothing to close it. So yes, they want it.

The few that complained about the border like the governor or mayor in New York only did so almost a year after it was open and only after the illegals started coming to New York. And even then all he did was just complain, he didn't push or publicly demand the border be closed.

 

[Hellbilly]

What exactly is "My Kind", oh tolerant one?

People who think like you.

 

[Independent thinker]

People who think like you.

How do I think, or are you going to put words in my mouth that I didn't say, or outright lie about the words I said?

 

[Hellbilly]

How do I think, or are you going to put words in my mouth that I didn't say, or outright lie about the words I said?

You support Donald Trump.

 

[Independent thinker]

You support Donald Trump.

I don't support Donald Trump. As it sits right now, I plan on voting for Tim Scott in the primaries.

 

[Hellbilly]

I don't support Donald Trump. As it sits right now, I plan on voting for Tim Scott in the primaries.

The threads you start suggest otherwise.

 

[Independent thinker]

The threads you start suggest otherwise.

If you search my thread history you will see that I did not vote for Trump in 2016, either in the primaries or in the general election. I only voted for him in 2020 to stop socialism. I do not plan on voting for him in 2024. But, I will defend Trump from the left's nonsense. Just because I am not an avid anti-Trumper does not make me a Trump supporter. The left have abused their power to get Trump.

 

[Unkotare]

Oh we are going to DEPORT the illegals. Dems will be lucky if we allow them to say also.

"say also"?

 

[BlindBoo]

Straight from the horse's mouth:

“We are talking about people who are coming from countries, who are dealing with political strife,” White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said at Wednesday’s press briefing. “They’re trying to find asylum — and he’s treating them like pawns.”

She charged that DeSantis was “not dealing with the problem. He’s actually creating a problem.”

It is the Democrats who only want to deal with the problem by letting people in

"Our nation is a nation of immigrants. More than any other country, our strength comes from our own immigrant heritage and our capacity to welcome those from other lands. No free and prosperous nation can by itself accommodate all those who seek a better life or flee persecution. We must share this responsibility with other countries.

The bipartisan select commission which reported this spring concluded that the Cuban influx to Florida made the United States sharply aware of the need for more effective immigation policies, and the need for legislation to support those policies."

For these reasons, I asked the Attorney General last March to chair a task force on immigration and refugee policy. We discussed the matter when President Lopez Portillo visited me last month, and we have carefully considered the views of our Mexican friends. In addition, the Attorney General has consulted with those concerned in Congress, and in affected states and localities, and with interested members of the public. Proposal With Eight Principles

The Attorney General is undertaking administrative actions, and submitting to Congress, on behalf of the Administration, a legislative package, based on eight principles. These principles are designed to preserve our tradition of accepting foreigners to our shores, but to accept them in a controlled and orderly fashion:

- We shall continue America's tradition as a land that welcomes peoples from other countries. We shall also, with other countries, continue to share in the responsibility of welcoming and resettling those who flee oppression.

- At the same time, we must insure adequate legal authority to establish control over immigration: to enable us, when sudden influxes of foreigners occur, to decide to whom we grant the status of refugee or asylee; to improve our border control; to expedite (consistent with fair procedures and our Constitution) return of those coming here illegally; to strengthen enforcement of our fair labor standards and laws; and to penalize those who would knowingly encourage violation of our laws. The steps we take to further these objectives, however, must also be consistent with our values of individual privacy and freedom. Ties With Canada and Mexico"

REAGAN'S STATEMENT ON IMMIGRATION (Published 1981)

www.nytimes.com

Why can't the current Congress Critters get it together?

 

[Hellbilly]

But, I will defend Trump from the left's nonsense.

I stand corrected. You don’t support trump, you defend him. SSDD