Democrats are Actually Angry that our State Department will Vett Student VISA Applicants?

[justoffal]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/31/world/international-students-visas-us-trump-intl

Really?

Even after all that has happened, Democrats don't know that we need to be more careful about who we let in? No, they don't and they are angry that we will be more careful.

CNN helps whip up the anger with a sad tale:

When Adefemola Akintade learned that the Trump administration had suspended the processing of foreign student visas, she immediately went blank. “I don’t know what to do; this is something I’ve always wanted for the longest of times,” she told CNN, still with an air of disbelief.

The Nigerian journalist has been accepted into Columbia Journalism School for a master’s degree and was on the cusp of applying for her US visa. “I don’t have any backup plan,” the 31-year-old said. “I put all my eggs in one basket – in Columbia… which is quite a risk.” She is due to start her degree in New York in August having already paid a hefty enrolment fee.

I assume that she is a very smart woman, and highly interested in journalism. Shouldn't she remain in Nigeria so she can help her country to rise out of its perpetual third world status? It's not like Nigeria is a hopeless mess like Venezuala or North Korea. They are making strides to improve, which should be reported on.

But, okay, Ms. Akentade does not owe it to Nigeria to dedicate her life to Nigerian improvement. If she wants to someday get a job on, say CNN, fine. I wish her great success. But that should start with making sure she is sincere about wanting an education and not planning to spend her time and energy bopping Jews, verbally or physically.

More about the plight of these students:

‘A scary time to study in the US’​

“It feels like a really scary and unsettling time for international students studying in the US,” said one Canadian student who has also been accepted by Columbia. “A lot of us chose to study in the US for its freedoms but now knowing that innocent social media posts could cost an education feels like censorship.”

Cost them an education? They are not already educated before they are accepted by Columbia?

Columbia does not accept typical students from American inner city public schools. They don't have a remedial program that starts with learning to read, the place where those schools typically stop and move on the woke indoctrination. They reach our for Canadians, and other foreign students to mix in with the nearly all-white private school Americans they accept.

Some prospective students have even started self-censoring. Another Canadian, accepted into Harvard Law School, told CNN how a friend working on Capitol Hill advised her to go through her social media posts shortly after the visa suspension news broke.

“We were looking at a post from us at Pride, and my caption was simply a rainbow flag and then a trans flag. And I was on the phone with her ‘and I was like, do I have to take this down?’ Eventually we decided no, I could leave it up, but I changed the caption, I removed the trans flag. I don’t know how to feel about that,” the student said.

I know how I feal about that. I feel that that student is a shameless opportunist who abandons what they profess to believe in as soon as their plan for a comfortable life on the dime of Uncle Sam might be the least bit affected.

Actually, that whole part of the story sounds highly unlikely. She happened to be talking to "a friend on Capitol Hill?" I'm an American, and I don't have the phone number of any "friend on Captitol Hill," to give me advice on how to deal with the federal government. She's sitting in her dorm room, cross legged on the bed, with her stuffed animal on her lap, and her phone in one hand and her iPad in the other changing her social media posts so she can get a visa?

Even more so than the Nigerian, this Canadian should be helping her own country. Sure, Canada is more advanced than Nigeria, but are they just going to accept being "America Junior" forever, or get off their asses and build a country to take pride in?

Of course... It cuts off one of their supplies of radicals and the money that comes with them.

 

[Mack The Finger]

Actually, the Chinese will surpass us because the right wing prides itself on being anti-science.

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If a person has a penis...it is a man.

If a person has a vagina...it is a woman

If a person has neither it...is a what the **** is that
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If a person has a vagina...

it is woman.

If a person has neither...it is a what the **** is that ?
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[Frankeneinstein]

I'm sorry, when did the Jews take over the country?

Your socialist european accent is enveloping your speech.

 

[JoeB131]

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If a person has a penis...it is a man.

If a person has a vagina...it is a woman

If a person has neither it...is a what the **** is that
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If a person has a vagina...it is woman.

If a person has neither...it is a what the **** is that ?
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You guys spend a lot of time obsessing about transgenders...

It's like a so-called Vegetarian who can't stop talking about steak.

 

[Mack The Finger]

You guys spend a lot of time obsessing about transgenders...

That was meant as a sarcastic response....trying to show how alphabet peoples are currenlty shoved down peoples now continues throats.

Remember when the flavor of the week was homosexual marriage in the military. The funniest thing about that was the jawns who made the most noise and were against marriage and would never join the Service.

You know when Orange Man Bad was called a drat dodger and Sleepy Joe had the EXACT same amount of deferments.

JoeB...you should do more fact checking.

 

[JoeB131]

That was meant as a sarcastic response....trying to show how alphabet peoples are currenlty shoved down peoples now continues throats.

Oh, really? Because it kind of sounded like a sexually insecure guy who can't stop obsessing over what other people may or may not have in their pants.

Remember when the flavor of the week was homosexual marriage in the military. The funniest thing about that was the jawns who made the most noise and were against marriage and would never join the Service.

Um, okay, I remember it differently. I remember gay marriage and gays in the military being two separate issues, and as much as you guys made a big deal about it, it really wasn't. Gays got married and gays signed up for the military, and no one really thinks twice about it now.

You know when Orange Man Bad was called a drat dodger and Sleepy Joe had the EXACT same amount of deferments.

The problem there was age. Biden was four years older than Trump and eligible when the military wasn't drafting that many people because they didn't need them. Trump, on the other hand, actively avoided Vietnam with a series of fake medical excuses. He can't even tell you today which foot had the supposed Bone Spurs.

 

[Dragonlady]

Which do not include smuggling in biological material.

If I'm doing them no "favours" let them stay in their giant third world hellhole, and be glad that they are not Uyghurs having their organs harvested.

I can do without it. We had enough of the "benefits" of Chinese research in 2020, thanks very much.

Once again, MAGA talking points show how ridiculous Trump's war on Harvard really is. All because Harvard and Colombia rejected Barron's applications.

First and foremost - all students have always been vetted before they receive Student Visas. The State Department STOPPED vetting students when Trump issued his EO banning foreign students, but now they're resuming the interviews. STUDENTS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VETTED.

Secondly, "giant third world hellholes" aren't sending students to Harvard and Yale, or any other American university. These are the sons and daughters of the wealthiest, most powerful people in the world. They're the only ones who can afford to send their children. Not only are they paying cash for their tuition, they are paying far more than American students.

"Most international students at Harvard pay full tuition, which is $59,320 for the 2024-25 academic year, either by making direct payments or via scholarships. Room and Board and other mandatory fees amount to an additional $27,606 per student."

Trump bars Harvard international enrolment: How many students will it hurt?

Some 6,800 international students are currently enrolled at Harvard University and risk losing their legal status.

www.aljazeera.com

That's more than $80,000 per year. Even a second world student can't afford it. American students with a federal aid package attend for $25,000 per year - subsidized to a large degree, by foreign students.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/12/how-much-harvard-students-actually-pay-to-attend.html

As for the 2 Chinese students arrested for bringing biological material into the country, there are over 1.1 million foreign students in the country. Banning all foreign students because of the actions of 2, seems irrational to say the least. Like banning cars on all of the roads, because there were 2 accidents.

Education is the LARGEST export the USA has. These foreign students are all paying FULL TUITION AND FEES, and contributing $44 billion to the US economy. Because of the money foreign students pay, universities are able to reduce university tuition for American students.

As well as giving an AMERICAN education teaching American values to the next generation of world leaders. They will take a positive opinion of the USA back to their home countries, which is WHY the USA has been inviting these student in for years.

 

[Dragonlady]

That was meant as a sarcastic response....trying to show how alphabet peoples are currenlty shoved down peoples now continues throats.

Remember when the flavor of the week was homosexual marriage in the military. The funniest thing about that was the jawns who made the most noise and were against marriage and would never join the Service.

You know when Orange Man Bad was called a drat dodger and Sleepy Joe had the EXACT same amount of deferments.

JoeB...you should do more fact checking.

Joe Biden had deferments because he legitimately has asthma. Trump had deferments because he paid a doctor to lie about his health. So it's a completely DIFFERENT situation. What makes it a different situation is one person followed the law and obtained a legitimate deferral, and the other one broke the law and is therefore a criminal.

Trump could have easily gotten a legal deferral. Rich kids did it all of the time. But Trump CHOSE to take the quick and easy way out, and break the law. It's kind of the exact same thing he's doing now. Trump could have chosen to adhere to the law and the Constitution, to carry out his deportations, but he's just going to round people up and put them on planes. This violates immigration law and people's Constitutional rights, which is why he's losing all of these court cases.

As my mother used to tell me, "There's a right way and a wrong way of doing things, and your life will go a whole lot smoother, if you stick to the right way". Trump deliberately chooses the wrong way, because he loves the chaos, the cruelty, and the power.

Look at what he's doing to Harvard and Columbia because they didn't offer his kid a spot. And YOU'RE paying the price for his revenge tour.

When he was in business, he liked to offer opportunities to trades people looking to move into big money construction, and then screw them over and destroy them. Because he could. That's why he got sued 4000 times. That's one of Trump's records by the way. Most bankruptcies, most lawsuits, most money lost by an American businessman. LOSER!!!

 

[DonGlock26]

They're angry about everything....It's who they are.

The Left wants to destroy the West.

 

[Mack The Finger]

Joe Biden had deferments because he legitimately has asthma. Trump had deferments because he paid a doctor to lie about his health.

Your a hack

Dragonlady you watch to much CNN.

Do you have a objective link saying OMB paid a doctor. Not some LIB heard tit at the dinner tale. (as the story goes)

Oh...I forgot to ask what was Military Unit ?

OMB signed up for the draft a week after he turned 18.

Bubba left the country and organized protest.

When Sleepy Joe had classified papers at his house and OMB had classified couments at his house they were 2 things according to the satanic LIB press.

Remember when: The DEMs were all upset when OMB started pulling clearings from retired military officers ?

To put it once again briefly...you're a hack !

 

[Unkotare]

...by not acting like a bunch of Douchebags wherever we go.

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Like YOU act here?

 

[JoeB131]

Like YOU act here?

If you don't want me to be mean to you, stop posting stupid shit.

 

[Unkotare]

If you don't want me to be mean to you, stop posting stupid shit.

You could just stop being an asshole all the damn time.

 

[JoeB131]

You could just stop being an asshole all the damn time.

I could but what fun would that be?

I'm amused I live in your head full time, while I have you mostly on ignore.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[Dragonlady]

Of course... It cuts off one of their supplies of radicals and the money that comes with them.

Your assumption that everyone who comes to the USA either as an immigrant or a student, is a crazed anti-American radical out to destroy your nation, is both illogical and quite frankly, incredibly stupid.

Of course, hating on immigrants is a time honoured tradition in the USA. It started when plantation owners started telling their indentured servants that the black slaves were coming to "steal their jobs". Then it was the Chinese "guest workers". No citizenship for THEM. Now it's the immigrants who are fueling your economy.

When will you learn it's the Republican billionaires who are telling you the "immigrants are stealing your jobs", so they can get big tax cuts. Nobody has ever STOLEN your jobs. AMERICAN CORPORATIONS and employers are GIVING immigrants your jobs, just like the slave owners bought the slaves so they didn't have to pay their workers a living wage.

Nothing has changed.

 

[Jroc]

Just can't take you seriously when you say stuff like this.

The truth hurts doesn't joey swalwell

 

[Jroc]

Just can't take you seriously when you say stuff like this.

The truth hurts doesn't

Your assumption that everyone who comes to the USA either as an immigrant or a student, is a crazed anti-American radical out to destroy your nation, is both illogical and quite frankly, incredibly stupid.

Of course, hating on immigrants is a time honoured tradition in the USA. It started when plantation owners started telling their indentured servants that the black slaves were coming to "steal their jobs". Then it was the Chinese "guest workers". No citizenship for THEM. Now it's the immigrants who are fueling your economy.

When will you learn it's the Republican billionaires who are telling you the "immigrants are stealing your jobs", so they can get big tax cuts. Nobody has ever STOLEN your jobs. AMERICAN CORPORATIONS and employers are GIVING immigrants your jobs, just like the slave owners bought the slaves so they didn't have to pay their workers a living wage.

Nothing has changed.

The Democrat party slave owners you're right..get it right. nobody has a right to be here, to study here, to do anything here unless they benefit the United States of America that's the point
swalwell

 

[Jroc]

Are your bad teeth leaking into your brain?

She was granted admission by her university, and until Trump got there, they had no problem getting student visas.

The Biden administration was a anti-American shill for the Chinese Communist party. just like you are ..he let Chinese Communist spies into this country freely and any foreign national or foreign student who comes here and criticizes the United States should be deported immediately

 

[Jroc]

The press in China is a lot freer than you think it is. I watch Chinese broadcasts with my wife frequently... It's indistinguishable from American news.

You're so pathetic hopefully the Trump administration is keeping an eye on people like you