Democrats are Actually Angry that our State Department will Vett Student VISA Applicants?

Are your bad teeth leaking into your brain?

She was granted admission by her university, and until Trump got there, they had no problem getting student visas.
Yanks have worse teeth than the Brits -


So that's you spanked.

With your sudden unprompted cliché -


But I've noticed the low IQ ones do that.

And finally, who gives a rats ass what the university granted, the government decides who gets into the US and they're not vetting would be students. I suggest she attends university in her own country.
 
Are your bad teeth leaking into your brain?

She was granted admission by her university, and until Trump got there, they had no problem getting student visas.
That's why China has smuggled fungus to destroy our agriculture. We have only caught them 3 times so far, so why do we need to vet foreign students?
 
What is exactly gained by denying a Nigerian woman access to a US journalism school? A free press is actually one of the things Nigeria could probalby use, with stronger investigative techniques.

The problem here is that if the US doesn't take these foreign students, China will and then China will gain the influence around the world that we are kind of giving up.
China is sending their students here. My wife recently graduated from medical school. About 20% of her class was Chinese.
 
That's why China has smuggled fungus to destroy our agriculture. We have only caught them 3 times so far, so why do we need to vet foreign students?

You mean you caught one student trying to smuggle in a fungus, another smuggling in dead roundworms, both of which are already endemic to US Agriculture, because they didn't want to fill out the paperwork to bring in research samples.

Besides, the Chinese scientists babes are cute.
 
You mean you caught one student trying to smuggle in a fungus, another smuggling in dead roundworms, both of which are already endemic to US Agriculture, because they didn't want to fill out the paperwork to bring in research samples.

Besides, the Chinese scientists babes are cute.
Actually they caught a third one independent of the other two. The fact you accept their lame excuse about research says a lot about your gullibility. You are right though. Chinese scientist babes are cute.
 
Actually they caught a third one independent of the other two. The fact you accept their lame excuse about research says a lot about your gullibility. You are right though. Chinese scientist babes are cute.

The third one was smuggling in dead roundworms, not fungus.

And, yes, they should have filled out the proper paperwork to bring biological samples in for research.

So let's look at the first two. Lui was sent back to China, because no one at the time considered it a big deal.

The other one, (the cute one) Jian, had been here for years studying fungus.

So by your logic, instead of bringing over a fully functional weaponized fungus, they brought over a common fungus that is already endemic to the US with the hope they could weaponize it in a US lab without anyone noticing? Is this your logic?
 
The third one was smuggling in dead roundworms, not fungus.

And, yes, they should have filled out the proper paperwork to bring biological samples in for research.

So let's look at the first two. Lui was sent back to China, because no one at the time considered it a big deal.

The other one, (the cute one) Jian, had been here for years studying fungus.

So by your logic, instead of bringing over a fully functional weaponized fungus, they brought over a common fungus that is already endemic to the US with the hope they could weaponize it in a US lab without anyone noticing? Is this your logic?
Do other countries follow your ideas of "not worrying about it," if people from a hostile foreign country are forgetful about paperwork and for some reason smuggle in something that is already endemic to U.S. agriculture?
 
Do other countries follow your ideas of "not worrying about it," if people from a hostile foreign country are forgetful about paperwork and for some reason smuggle in something that is already endemic to U.S. agriculture?

Wouldn't know. We would never see another country lie their asses off to make you scared of Chinese people.

This wouldn't even make news in another country.
 
Wouldn't know. We would never see another country lie their asses off to make you scared of Chinese people.

This wouldn't even make news in another country.
The question was rhetorical, i.e. the answer is patently obvious. But since you wouldn't know, I'll enlighten you.

No.

In other countries, they don't "not worry about it," when people from a hostile country - or a friendly country for that matter - show up for admittance with dicked up paperwork and in possession of dangerous material that is illegal to import - or not particularly dangerous material that is illegal to import.

Other countries - all of them - enforce their immigration and entry laws to the letter, and any errors are decided against the would-be entrants.

If that seems strange to you, you have insulated yourself to be exclusively (mis)informed by the leftist propaganda machine that is our so-called "mainstream" media.
 
The third one was smuggling in dead roundworms, not fungus.

And, yes, they should have filled out the proper paperwork to bring biological samples in for research.

So let's look at the first two. Lui was sent back to China, because no one at the time considered it a big deal.

The other one, (the cute one) Jian, had been here for years studying fungus.

So by your logic, instead of bringing over a fully functional weaponized fungus, they brought over a common fungus that is already endemic to the US with the hope they could weaponize it in a US lab without anyone noticing? Is this your logic?
Our country is inundated with invasive plants and animals. Everything from Nutria to Zebra mussels are causing problems all over. Most were brought to America by well meaning people to serve a narrow purpose without considering the ramifications. Now you advocate letting foreign nationals introduce "biological samples" (code words for I got caught smuggling) without interference. So your logic is to deny foreign biological material must be harmless so should be ignored. Not only dumb logic, but proven faulty on infinite occasions.
 
The question was rhetorical, i.e. the answer is patently obvious. But since you wouldn't know, I'll enlighten you.

No.

In other countries, they don't "not worry about it," when people from a hostile country - or a friendly country for that matter - show up for admittance with dicked up paperwork and in possession of dangerous material that is illegal to import - or not particularly dangerous material that is illegal to import.

If you were talking about actual dangerous materials, you might have a point.

A common endemic fungus is not a dangerous material.
 
Our country is inundated with invasive plants and animals. Everything from Nutria to Zebra mussels are causing problems all over. Most were brought to America by well meaning people to serve a narrow purpose without considering the ramifications. Now you advocate letting foreign nationals introduce "biological samples" (code words for I got caught smuggling) without interference. So your logic is to deny foreign biological material must be harmless so should be ignored. Not only dumb logic, but proven faulty on infinite occasions.

Oh, I think these kids should absolutely pay a fine for breaking regulations. The same fine I would pay if I bring my boat to Northern Wisconsin and don't clean it for invasive species.


So if smuggling hundreds of crayfish is a $6000 fine, then um, a few specs of fungus should only be about the cost of a cup of coffee.
 
Oh, I think these kids should absolutely pay a fine for breaking regulations. The same fine I would pay if I bring my boat to Northern Wisconsin and don't clean it for invasive species.


So if smuggling hundreds of crayfish is a $6000 fine, then um, a few specs of fungus should only be about the cost of a cup of coffee.
Your lack of understanding about the seriousness of the problem is exceeded only by your ability to ignore problems to our country that don't fit your "orange man bad" cult lingo.
 
Your lack of understanding about the seriousness of the problem is exceeded only by your ability to ignore problems to our country that don't fit your "orange man bad" cult lingo.

Except this wasn't considered a problem at the time. At the time, they confiscated the samples and sent Lui back to China, where he presumably still is.

It was only after they started digging into Jian's text messages on WeChat that they started taking shit out of context and puffing it up into something it isn't.

(I actually have WeChat on my phone, so my wife can text me, but it's spit out some pretty goofy translations over the years.)
 

Really?

Even after all that has happened, Democrats don't know that we need to be more careful about who we let in? No, they don't and they are angry that we will be more careful.

CNN helps whip up the anger with a sad tale:

When Adefemola Akintade learned that the Trump administration had suspended the processing of foreign student visas, she immediately went blank. “I don’t know what to do; this is something I’ve always wanted for the longest of times,” she told CNN, still with an air of disbelief.

The Nigerian journalist has been accepted into Columbia Journalism School for a master’s degree and was on the cusp of applying for her US visa. “I don’t have any backup plan,” the 31-year-old said. “I put all my eggs in one basket – in Columbia… which is quite a risk.” She is due to start her degree in New York in August having already paid a hefty enrolment fee.


I assume that she is a very smart woman, and highly interested in journalism. Shouldn't she remain in Nigeria so she can help her country to rise out of its perpetual third world status? It's not like Nigeria is a hopeless mess like Venezuala or North Korea. They are making strides to improve, which should be reported on.

But, okay, Ms. Akentade does not owe it to Nigeria to dedicate her life to Nigerian improvement. If she wants to someday get a job on, say CNN, fine. I wish her great success. But that should start with making sure she is sincere about wanting an education and not planning to spend her time and energy bopping Jews, verbally or physically.

More about the plight of these students:

‘A scary time to study in the US’​

“It feels like a really scary and unsettling time for international students studying in the US,” said one Canadian student who has also been accepted by Columbia. “A lot of us chose to study in the US for its freedoms but now knowing that innocent social media posts could cost an education feels like censorship.”

Cost them an education? They are not already educated before they are accepted by Columbia?

Columbia does not accept typical students from American inner city public schools. They don't have a remedial program that starts with learning to read, the place where those schools typically stop and move on the woke indoctrination. They reach our for Canadians, and other foreign students to mix in with the nearly all-white private school Americans they accept.

Some prospective students have even started self-censoring. Another Canadian, accepted into Harvard Law School, told CNN how a friend working on Capitol Hill advised her to go through her social media posts shortly after the visa suspension news broke.

“We were looking at a post from us at Pride, and my caption was simply a rainbow flag and then a trans flag. And I was on the phone with her ‘and I was like, do I have to take this down?’ Eventually we decided no, I could leave it up, but I changed the caption, I removed the trans flag. I don’t know how to feel about that,” the student said.


I know how I feal about that. I feel that that student is a shameless opportunist who abandons what they profess to believe in as soon as their plan for a comfortable life on the dime of Uncle Sam might be the least bit affected.

Actually, that whole part of the story sounds highly unlikely. She happened to be talking to "a friend on Capitol Hill?" I'm an American, and I don't have the phone number of any "friend on Captitol Hill," to give me advice on how to deal with the federal government. She's sitting in her dorm room, cross legged on the bed, with her stuffed animal on her lap, and her phone in one hand and her iPad in the other changing her social media posts so she can get a visa?

Even more so than the Nigerian, this Canadian should be helping her own country. Sure, Canada is more advanced than Nigeria, but are they just going to accept being "America Junior" forever, or get off their asses and build a country to take pride in?

Hey STUPID. They've been vetting university visa applicants since the whole exchange student thing started.

That list of students that Trump said Harvard won't give him. He already has the list because his government issued all of their student visas, and their visa applications stated which school they'd be attending.

But Trump sucks in you gullible fools into believing Harvard is resisting him by refusing to provide the names he already has.

All because Harvard declined Barron's admissions application.
 
It's just more proof that today's Dims are desperate to completely change America and all it has stood for. They are doing it with immigration, and the minute they get back in control of the WH, they will once again flood the country with the third-world.
There really is only a couple ways to stop them, and one of them isn't very pretty.

You have two choices: Admit larger numbers of immigrants; Deal with worker shortages with your declining and aging population. See Russia, Hungary, and Turkey.
 
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If you were talking about actual dangerous materials, you might have a point.

A common endemic fungus is not a dangerous material.
That is completely and totally not the point.

The point is that when you go to a foreign country, you are supposed to be careful to do everything correctly, and that the burden is on you to cross ALL the t's and dot the i's. Especially a hostile foreign country.

When I visited East Berlin as a GI in the 80's, they were very careful to tell us the rules, and they warned us that breaking the rules would likely mean being taken in by the East German authorities, with neither the Army, nor the State Department, being able to "make a call" and get us released.

The incredible amount of anti-American hostility in the world means that our attitude must be "any doubt, keep 'em out." We cannot act like entry into the U.S. or remaining in the U.S. is a right that requires due process to lose.

It isn't.

It doesn't.
 
That is completely and totally not the point.

The point is that when you go to a foreign country, you are supposed to be careful to do everything correctly, and that the burden is on you to cross ALL the t's and dot the i's. Especially a hostile foreign country.

When I visited East Berlin as a GI in the 80's, they were very careful to tell us the rules, and they warned us that breaking the rules would likely mean being taken in by the East German authorities, with neither the Army, nor the State Department, being able to "make a call" and get us released.

The incredible amount of anti-American hostility in the world means that our attitude must be "any doubt, keep 'em out." We cannot act like entry into the U.S. or remaining in the U.S. is a right that requires due process to lose.

It isn't.

It doesn't.

What a pack of bullshit.

When you went to Germany as a GI, you went as a representative of the American government, and as such, you were not to embarass your government.

When you go to school in a foreign country - and NONE of the students they're harassing are from "hostile foreign countries", you are told to obey the laws of the country you're in. Period.

These students have the same rights of freedom of speech and freedom of assembly that YOU do. They're paying EXTRA to attend your schools and subsidizing American students. Stop pretending you're doing them any favours.

You should be kissing their asses for coming to the USA and giving YOU their money, and the benefits of their research.
 
What a pack of bullshit.

When you went to Germany as a GI, you went as a representative of the American government, and as such, you were not to embarass your government.

When you go to school in a foreign country - and NONE of the students they're harassing are from "hostile foreign countries", you are told to obey the laws of the country you're in. Period.
Which do not include smuggling in biological material.
These students have the same rights of freedom of speech and freedom of assembly that YOU do. They're paying EXTRA to attend your schools and subsidizing American students. Stop pretending you're doing them any favours.
If I'm doing them no "favours" let them stay in their giant third world hellhole, and be glad that they are not Uyghurs having their organs harvested.
You should be kissing their asses for coming to the USA and giving YOU their money, and the benefits of their research.
I can do without it. We had enough of the "benefits" of Chinese research in 2020, thanks very much.
 
That is completely and totally not the point.

The point is that when you go to a foreign country, you are supposed to be careful to do everything correctly, and that the burden is on you to cross ALL the t's and dot the i's. Especially a hostile foreign country.

Um, I guess. Throwing a pretty young thing in prison because her boyfriend tried to circumvent customs rules is a bit silly.

Now, if you had actual proof these two were planning to weaponize the fungus and unleash it on America, you might have a point.

When I visited East Berlin as a GI in the 80's, they were very careful to tell us the rules, and they warned us that breaking the rules would likely mean being taken in by the East German authorities, with neither the Army, nor the State Department, being able to "make a call" and get us released.

At the time, you were a soldier in occuppied territory in a hostile country.

Not a college student engaged in research.

The incredible amount of anti-American hostility in the world means that our attitude must be "any doubt, keep 'em out." We cannot act like entry into the U.S. or remaining in the U.S. is a right that requires due process to lose.

Hey, here's a ******* crazy idea. Let's stop generating anti-American hostility by not acting like a bunch of Douchebags wherever we go.

But screwing our own economy because our leaders have redirected their FAILURES into hostility towards the rest of the world is illogical.
 
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