Democrats are Actually Angry that our State Department will Vett Student VISA Applicants?

The US gives out a pittance in aid, and Trump is cutting that.

The US gives 4 times the GNI of China. Many EU countries give more aid than both, but then again, they can afford do so when the US has their back militarily and foots the bill for much of their protection.
 
The US gives 4 times the GNI of China.

Why do you only cherry pick one statistic to make your point?

Chinese spending on the BRI has been more than a Trillion since 2013 . Some estimates put it as high as 8 trillion.

The US Spends only about 70 Billion a year on foreign aid, and a big chunk of that is either spent on the Zionist Entity or on bribing her neighbors to play nice with her.

Many EU countries give more aid than both, but then again, they can afford do so when the US has their back militarily and foots the bill for much of their protection.
Again, bullshit. Most of the money we spend on the military goes to playing Hall Monitor in the Middle East, which is what happens when the Oil Companies and the Zionists call the shots.
 
Chinese spending on the BRI has been more than a Trillion since 2013 . Some estimates put it as high as 8 trillion.

They get other countries on the hook for loans they cannot pay. China is in the market of expanding Communism and doing things that benefit them. They aren't humanitarians. The US gifts other countries money and supplies. As usual, you are confused.

Again, bullshit. Most of the money we spend on the military goes to playing Hall Monitor in the Middle East, which is what happens when the Oil Companies and the Zionists call the shots.

Wrong again. We give more to NATO as a percentage of GDP than all countries other than Poland and Estonia. We also supply the most troops and armaments.
 

Really?

Even after all that has happened, Democrats don't know that we need to be more careful about who we let in? No, they don't and they are angry that we will be more careful.

CNN helps whip up the anger with a sad tale:

When Adefemola Akintade learned that the Trump administration had suspended the processing of foreign student visas, she immediately went blank. “I don’t know what to do; this is something I’ve always wanted for the longest of times,” she told CNN, still with an air of disbelief.

The Nigerian journalist has been accepted into Columbia Journalism School for a master’s degree and was on the cusp of applying for her US visa. “I don’t have any backup plan,” the 31-year-old said. “I put all my eggs in one basket – in Columbia… which is quite a risk.” She is due to start her degree in New York in August having already paid a hefty enrolment fee.


I assume that she is a very smart woman, and highly interested in journalism. Shouldn't she remain in Nigeria so she can help her country to rise out of its perpetual third world status? It's not like Nigeria is a hopeless mess like Venezuala or North Korea. They are making strides to improve, which should be reported on.

But, okay, Ms. Akentade does not owe it to Nigeria to dedicate her life to Nigerian improvement. If she wants to someday get a job on, say CNN, fine. I wish her great success. But that should start with making sure she is sincere about wanting an education and not planning to spend her time and energy bopping Jews, verbally or physically.

More about the plight of these students:

‘A scary time to study in the US’​

“It feels like a really scary and unsettling time for international students studying in the US,” said one Canadian student who has also been accepted by Columbia. “A lot of us chose to study in the US for its freedoms but now knowing that innocent social media posts could cost an education feels like censorship.”

Cost them an education? They are not already educated before they are accepted by Columbia?

Columbia does not accept typical students from American inner city public schools. They don't have a remedial program that starts with learning to read, the place where those schools typically stop and move on the woke indoctrination. They reach our for Canadians, and other foreign students to mix in with the nearly all-white private school Americans they accept.

Some prospective students have even started self-censoring. Another Canadian, accepted into Harvard Law School, told CNN how a friend working on Capitol Hill advised her to go through her social media posts shortly after the visa suspension news broke.

“We were looking at a post from us at Pride, and my caption was simply a rainbow flag and then a trans flag. And I was on the phone with her ‘and I was like, do I have to take this down?’ Eventually we decided no, I could leave it up, but I changed the caption, I removed the trans flag. I don’t know how to feel about that,” the student said.


I know how I feal about that. I feel that that student is a shameless opportunist who abandons what they profess to believe in as soon as their plan for a comfortable life on the dime of Uncle Sam might be the least bit affected.

Actually, that whole part of the story sounds highly unlikely. She happened to be talking to "a friend on Capitol Hill?" I'm an American, and I don't have the phone number of any "friend on Captitol Hill," to give me advice on how to deal with the federal government. She's sitting in her dorm room, cross legged on the bed, with her stuffed animal on her lap, and her phone in one hand and her iPad in the other changing her social media posts so she can get a visa?

Even more so than the Nigerian, this Canadian should be helping her own country. Sure, Canada is more advanced than Nigeria, but are they just going to accept being "America Junior" forever, or get off their asses and build a country to take pride in?
Geeeeeeeeee, I wonder why they lost last November?
 
They get other countries on the hook for loans they cannot pay. China is in the market of expanding Communism and doing things that benefit them. They aren't humanitarians. The US gifts other countries money and supplies. As usual, you are confused.

No, the Chinese are pragmatists. They know if they build a port and roads in a third world country, they improve their ability to sell products in that country. This isn't complicated at all.

Meanwhile, we think we can go around dropping bombs and threatening tariffs every time some country says something bad about Cheeto Hitler.

Wrong again. We give more to NATO as a percentage of GDP than all countries other than Poland and Estonia. We also supply the most troops and armaments.

Well, not really. We spend 5% on our bloated military industrial complex, compared to other countries that spend 1-2%. But most of that 5% doesn't go to Europe. It goes to the middle east, Asia, and maintaining bases we keep around because no one wants to close a redundant base in their district.
 
No, the Chinese are pragmatists. They know if they build a port and roads in a third world country, they improve their ability to sell products in that country. This isn't complicated at all.

Meanwhile, we think we can go around dropping bombs and threatening tariffs every time some country says something bad about Cheeto Hitler.

You sure do love you some China. It makes perfect sense that you are a Democrat.


Well, not really. We spend 5% on our bloated military industrial complex, compared to other countries that spend 1-2%. But most of that 5% doesn't go to Europe. It goes to the middle east, Asia, and maintaining bases we keep around because no one wants to close a redundant base in their district.

Without the US, NATO would be impotent.
 
You sure do love you some China. It makes perfect sense that you are a Democrat.

I'd rather hang out with some Chinese (who are just the nicest people) rather than the angry inbreds of MAGA, yes.

You blame China for what rich white people did to you. This is what makes you kind of dumb.

Without the US, NATO would be impotent.

I think you have that in reverse.


We saw what happens when the US tries to go it alone in Iraq. We got our asses handed to us.
 
I'd rather hang out with some Chinese (who are just the nicest people) rather than the angry inbreds of MAGA, yes.

I have nothing against the Chinese people, but they live under a repressive government system. Communism, no matter how you dress it up, is still Communism.

MAGA aren't the angry ones, that would be today's far-left Democrats that are running the party. They are evil children who are mad at anyone and anything that disagrees with them about anything.

You blame China for what rich white people did to you. This is what makes you kind of dumb.

Nobody did anything to me. I am not mad at either. I am very happy to live in the US and not China. Evidently so are a lot of Chinese based on the numbers that come here vs the numbers of Americans that choose to go there.

We saw what happens when the US tries to go it alone in Iraq. We got our asses handed to us.

You mean when we invaded Iraq on the ground with ~75% of US troops and in less than 3 weeks advanced all the way to Bagdad and took down Saddam's statue?
 
I have nothing against the Chinese people, but they live under a repressive government system. Communism, no matter how you dress it up, is still Communism.

Yawn. The 1950s called. They want their Bircher nonsense back.

Reality is, Chinese live better today than they have at any time in their history.

MAGA aren't the angry ones, that would be today's far-left Democrats that are running the party. They are evil children who are mad at anyone and anything that disagrees with them about anything.

Right, so you aren't angry at gays and transgenders and immigrants and feminists and anyone else who offends your white bread world.

Nobody did anything to me. I am not mad at either. I am very happy to live in the US and not China. Evidently so are a lot of Chinese based on the numbers that come here vs the numbers of Americans that choose to go there.

Right, you are super duper rich guy who benefits from the exploitation. YOu really need to believe that.

You mean when we invaded Iraq on the ground with ~75% of US troops and in less than 3 weeks advanced all the way to Bagdad and took down Saddam's statue?
I seem to remember it differently. I remember being bogged down in a nation-building exercise that killed 5000 Americans for weapons that didn't exist.
 
Reality is, Chinese live better today than they have at any time in their history.

Neat, move there. You will be in for rude awakening. Better than terrible doesn't mean good.

Right, so you aren't angry at gays and transgenders and immigrants and feminists and anyone else who offends your white bread world.

Nope. Not angry at them at all.

Right, you are super duper rich guy who benefits from the exploitation. YOu really need to believe that.

I do much better when Republicans are in office. I also much prefer those that are pro-US, not anti-US . There is that.

I seem to remember it differently. I remember being bogged down in a nation-building exercise that killed 5000 Americans for weapons that didn't exist.

Yeah, that is our lefty, nurturing side that gets us into trouble sometimes. We took down Iraq in a very short period of time. The infamous Iraqi guard folded like cheap tents.
 
Neat, move there. You will be in for rude awakening. Better than terrible doesn't mean good.

No rude awakening at all. China will pass us up, it's pretty much inevitable.

Nope. Not angry at them at all.
Bullshit. Anger against the other is the only thing that animates the Zombie corpse of the GOP. You guys don't even pretend to believe in Supply Side anymore.

Trump is about that hate without the bullshit economics you guys stopped believing in years ago.

I do much better when Republicans are in office. I also much prefer those that are pro-US, not anti-US . There is that.

Not sure how that's possible. Ten of the last Elevern recessions happened when REpublicans were in charge.

Soon to be Eleven out of Twelve when the Trump Bitcoin/Tariff Recession hits.

Yeah, that is our lefty, nurturing side that gets us into trouble sometimes. We took down Iraq in a very short period of time. The infamous Iraqi guard folded like cheap tents.
I suspect you didn't sign up to fight over there.

So let's review what happened.

Terrorists attacked us on 9/11. Our allies all joined in to help us invade Afghanistan. Initially very successful.

Then Dubya decided to take out Iraq to avenge his pappy. All our allies told him it was a terrible idea, except, of course, for the Zionists, who rubbed their grubby little hands together and were overjoyed they could get us to take out Saddam for them.

We went it alone and got bogged down in a pointless war. Worse, because we took our eyes off the ball in Afghanistan, the Taliban and Al Qaeda were able to regroup and continue to be a menace.

Oh, yeah. And every reason we gave for going to war turned out to be a ******* lie.

But yeah, big success over there. Iraq is now essentially an Iranian client state. Al-Qaeda-backed terrorists now rule Syria. The Houthis are now a menace to international navigation.
 

Really?

Even after all that has happened, Democrats don't know that we need to be more careful about who we let in? No, they don't and they are angry that we will be more careful.

CNN helps whip up the anger with a sad tale:

When Adefemola Akintade learned that the Trump administration had suspended the processing of foreign student visas, she immediately went blank. “I don’t know what to do; this is something I’ve always wanted for the longest of times,” she told CNN, still with an air of disbelief.

The Nigerian journalist has been accepted into Columbia Journalism School for a master’s degree and was on the cusp of applying for her US visa. “I don’t have any backup plan,” the 31-year-old said. “I put all my eggs in one basket – in Columbia… which is quite a risk.” She is due to start her degree in New York in August having already paid a hefty enrolment fee.


I assume that she is a very smart woman, and highly interested in journalism. Shouldn't she remain in Nigeria so she can help her country to rise out of its perpetual third world status? It's not like Nigeria is a hopeless mess like Venezuala or North Korea. They are making strides to improve, which should be reported on.

But, okay, Ms. Akentade does not owe it to Nigeria to dedicate her life to Nigerian improvement. If she wants to someday get a job on, say CNN, fine. I wish her great success. But that should start with making sure she is sincere about wanting an education and not planning to spend her time and energy bopping Jews, verbally or physically.

More about the plight of these students:

‘A scary time to study in the US’​

“It feels like a really scary and unsettling time for international students studying in the US,” said one Canadian student who has also been accepted by Columbia. “A lot of us chose to study in the US for its freedoms but now knowing that innocent social media posts could cost an education feels like censorship.”

Cost them an education? They are not already educated before they are accepted by Columbia?

Columbia does not accept typical students from American inner city public schools. They don't have a remedial program that starts with learning to read, the place where those schools typically stop and move on the woke indoctrination. They reach our for Canadians, and other foreign students to mix in with the nearly all-white private school Americans they accept.

Some prospective students have even started self-censoring. Another Canadian, accepted into Harvard Law School, told CNN how a friend working on Capitol Hill advised her to go through her social media posts shortly after the visa suspension news broke.

“We were looking at a post from us at Pride, and my caption was simply a rainbow flag and then a trans flag. And I was on the phone with her ‘and I was like, do I have to take this down?’ Eventually we decided no, I could leave it up, but I changed the caption, I removed the trans flag. I don’t know how to feel about that,” the student said.


I know how I feal about that. I feel that that student is a shameless opportunist who abandons what they profess to believe in as soon as their plan for a comfortable life on the dime of Uncle Sam might be the least bit affected.

Actually, that whole part of the story sounds highly unlikely. She happened to be talking to "a friend on Capitol Hill?" I'm an American, and I don't have the phone number of any "friend on Captitol Hill," to give me advice on how to deal with the federal government. She's sitting in her dorm room, cross legged on the bed, with her stuffed animal on her lap, and her phone in one hand and her iPad in the other changing her social media posts so she can get a visa?

Even more so than the Nigerian, this Canadian should be helping her own country. Sure, Canada is more advanced than Nigeria, but are they just going to accept being "America Junior" forever, or get off their asses and build a country to take pride in?
Canada is more like Europe, Jr.
 
When Adefemola Akintade learned that the Trump administration had suspended the processing of foreign student visas, she immediately went blank. “I don’t know what to do; this is something I’ve always wanted for the longest of times,” she told CNN, still with an air of disbelief.

The Nigerian journalist has been accepted into Columbia Journalism School for a master’s degree and was on the cusp of applying for her US visa. “I don’t have any backup plan,” the 31-year-old said.

For being smart she is pretty dub !

A lesson in life I learned a long time ago: If Plan A doesn't work go to Plan B.

I bet my bottom $$$ she got a full scholarship for being a POC. I have a friend whose grand daughter is mixed race. She got a full scholarship to MIT and it was like they went out of thier way to give to her.
 
For being smart she is pretty dub !

A lesson in life I learned a long time ago: If Plan A doesn't work go to Plan B.

I bet my bottom $$$ she got a full scholarship for being a POC. I have a friend whose grand daughter is mixed race. She got a full scholarship to MIT and it was like they went out of thier way to give to her.
Exactly.

If the Chinese surpass us, it will be because of nonsense like this, instead of focusing on high quality, elementary, secondary, and post-secondary education.
 
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Exactly.

If the Chinese surpass us, it will be because of nonsense like this, instead of focusing on high quality, elementary, secondary, and post-secondary education.

Actually, the Chinese will surpass us because the right wing prides itself on being anti-science.
 
Actually, the Chinese will surpass us because the right wing prides itself on being anti-science.
They won't surpass us, because we finally have a Secretary of Education who knows the difference between education and indoctrination.
 
They won't surpass us, because we finally have a Secretary of Education who knows the difference between education and indoctrination.

Uh, we have a Secretary of Education whose last job was running a fake wrestling racket.

This is the "Very best people" Trump brings with him.

The thing is, education needs serious reform in this country. But Republicans always make it worse.

I'm just glad my Mandarin is improving.
 
who said she was going to act against our national interests?

Foreign students have three advantages to the US.

1) They are a financial boon to their institutions as foreign student pay higher tuition.
2) They add to the wealth of scholarship by bringing new ideas and perspectives to the table.
3) They take back good will towards the US (not necessarily whoever the current government is) around the world.

The international good will race is one America is currently losing to China. We drop bombs, they build infrastructure. We throw foreign nationals into gulags, the Chinese are welcoming them.
Why aren’t Nigeria and China welcoming free press? Should we do to foreign nationals what Nigeria and China do to foreign nationals? Yes or No.
 
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