Democratic Socialism: Greece and Venezuela

As for the the Nazi's being socialist? That's the most laughable pile of horse shit that anyone on the right ever says. Hitler's party was far right, and no amount of wriggling and pointing to the little things makes any difference. You're on the same political side as Hitler, just live with it like the left has to with Pot and Stalin.
You are obviously an woefully uneducated. Hitler sounds far more like you than Thatcher or Reagan:

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."
  • John Toland, Adolf Hitler: The Definitive Biography (1976) p. 306. Hitler’s speech on May 1, 1927.

Why is it that when it comes to modern politicans that legally deemed fit for office but they don't hold exactly our views then we happily claim that every single word that comes out of their mouth as an utter lie, but when it comes to genocidal madmen who plunged the entire world in to a war then one quote is all it takes for someone to claim they're "socialist". Hitler and the Nazi party were RIGHT WING, no amount of quotes from his biography will change that. You only have to look at the party's history from its early days attacks on socialist groups to the rounding up and killing leftists of all types during the final solution to see you're spouting bullshit. I'll say this one more time RIGHT WING.
Your mental and obvious semantic gymnastics are even short for a Chav with pretenses of intellectualism.

You are wrong and just as obviously have been proved to be:

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."
  • John Toland, Adolf Hitler: The Definitive Biography (1976) p. 306. Hitler’s speech on May 1, 1927.
 
As for the the Nazi's being socialist? That's the most laughable pile of horse shit that anyone on the right ever says. Hitler's party was far right, and no amount of wriggling and pointing to the little things makes any difference. You're on the same political side as Hitler, just live with it like the left has to with Pot and Stalin.
You are obviously an woefully uneducated. Hitler sounds far more like you than Thatcher or Reagan:

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."
  • John Toland, Adolf Hitler: The Definitive Biography (1976) p. 306. Hitler’s speech on May 1, 1927.

Why is it that when it comes to modern politicans that legally deemed fit for office but they don't hold exactly our views then we happily claim that every single word that comes out of their mouth as an utter lie, but when it comes to genocidal madmen who plunged the entire world in to a war then one quote is all it takes for someone to claim they're "socialist". Hitler and the Nazi party were RIGHT WING, no amount of quotes from his biography will change that. You only have to look at the party's history from its early days attacks on socialist groups to the rounding up and killing leftists of all types during the final solution to see you're spouting bullshit. I'll say this one more time RIGHT WING.
Your mental and obvious semantic gymnastics are even short for a Chav with pretenses of intellectualism.

You are wrong and just as obviously have been proved to be:

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."
  • John Toland, Adolf Hitler: The Definitive Biography (1976) p. 306. Hitler’s speech on May 1, 1927.

:badgrin: Aww, it's kinda sweet that you try and use the British slang terms. Except I attended a grammar school, have moved abroad and am university educated where as a chav is young and uneducated street youth.

Do you only have one quote?
 
As for the the Nazi's being socialist? That's the most laughable pile of horse shit that anyone on the right ever says. Hitler's party was far right, and no amount of wriggling and pointing to the little things makes any difference. You're on the same political side as Hitler, just live with it like the left has to with Pot and Stalin.
You are obviously an woefully uneducated. Hitler sounds far more like you than Thatcher or Reagan:

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."
  • John Toland, Adolf Hitler: The Definitive Biography (1976) p. 306. Hitler’s speech on May 1, 1927.

Why is it that when it comes to modern politicans that legally deemed fit for office but they don't hold exactly our views then we happily claim that every single word that comes out of their mouth as an utter lie, but when it comes to genocidal madmen who plunged the entire world in to a war then one quote is all it takes for someone to claim they're "socialist". Hitler and the Nazi party were RIGHT WING, no amount of quotes from his biography will change that. You only have to look at the party's history from its early days attacks on socialist groups to the rounding up and killing leftists of all types during the final solution to see you're spouting bullshit. I'll say this one more time RIGHT WING.
Your mental and obvious semantic gymnastics are even short for a Chav with pretenses of intellectualism.

You are wrong and just as obviously have been proved to be:

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."
  • John Toland, Adolf Hitler: The Definitive Biography (1976) p. 306. Hitler’s speech on May 1, 1927.

:badgrin: Aww, it's kinda sweet that you try and use the British slang terms. Except I attended a grammar school, have moved abroad and am university educated where as a chav is young and uneducated street youth.

Do you only have one quote?
Do I have a quote that you are an uneducated street youth? No, but I have your contention that Hitler was not a socialist, your denial and his that he is not only a socialist but also strongly antii-capitalist. I don't think you are young, but I have little doubt you are an aging hipster and Chav.
 
As for the the Nazi's being socialist? That's the most laughable pile of horse shit that anyone on the right ever says. Hitler's party was far right, and no amount of wriggling and pointing to the little things makes any difference. You're on the same political side as Hitler, just live with it like the left has to with Pot and Stalin.
You are obviously an woefully uneducated. Hitler sounds far more like you than Thatcher or Reagan:

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."
  • John Toland, Adolf Hitler: The Definitive Biography (1976) p. 306. Hitler’s speech on May 1, 1927.

Why is it that when it comes to modern politicans that legally deemed fit for office but they don't hold exactly our views then we happily claim that every single word that comes out of their mouth as an utter lie, but when it comes to genocidal madmen who plunged the entire world in to a war then one quote is all it takes for someone to claim they're "socialist". Hitler and the Nazi party were RIGHT WING, no amount of quotes from his biography will change that. You only have to look at the party's history from its early days attacks on socialist groups to the rounding up and killing leftists of all types during the final solution to see you're spouting bullshit. I'll say this one more time RIGHT WING.
Your mental and obvious semantic gymnastics are even short for a Chav with pretenses of intellectualism.

You are wrong and just as obviously have been proved to be:

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."
  • John Toland, Adolf Hitler: The Definitive Biography (1976) p. 306. Hitler’s speech on May 1, 1927.

:badgrin: Aww, it's kinda sweet that you try and use the British slang terms. Except I attended a grammar school, have moved abroad and am university educated where as a chav is young and uneducated street youth.

Do you only have one quote?
Do I have a quote that you are an uneducated street youth? No, but I have your contention that Hitler was not a socialist, your denial and his that he is not only a socialist but also strongly antii-capitalist. I don't think you are young, but I have little doubt you are an aging hipster and Chav.

If you say so fat lad. And I'm telling you that your quote was Hitler lying. Unless you think he was just such a swell guy that he wouldn't do such a thing.
 
If you say so fat lad. And I'm telling you that your quote was Hitler lying. Unless you think he was just such a swell guy that he wouldn't do such a thing.
He was a socialist, so no. I am not saying that all socialist lie. I am saying you are ignorant though.

Give it up. You've lost because of your ignorance of history.
 
'Democratic Socialism' is an oxymoron....

Only when you're so wilfully stupid you want it to be.
socialism by definition takes away individual rights....not to mention property.....

Europeans are learning about 'social democracy' the hard way......Germans with their 50% income tax are pretty sick of subsidizing those lazy Greeks....also Europeans are getting sick of paying for all the poor ungrateful Muslims invading their countries....
 
If you say so fat lad. And I'm telling you that your quote was Hitler lying. Unless you think he was just such a swell guy that he wouldn't do such a thing.
He was a socialist, so no. I am not saying that all socialist lie. I am saying you are ignorant though.

Give it up. You've lost because of your ignorance of history.

No he wasn't. It's not me telling you that either, it's the rest of the world. Pull out an encylopedia and it will have it right there. Nazi party, far right. You have taken one single line and decided that it is more important than everything that a dictator did in his whole reign of destruction. Just because you like to think that being right wing can't be wrong. It's laughable.

Also, you don't get to lose sight of that particular bit of history here.

'Democratic Socialism' is an oxymoron....

Only when you're so wilfully stupid you want it to be.
socialism by definition takes away individual rights....not to mention property.....

Europeans are learning about 'social democracy' the hard way......Germans with their 50% income tax are pretty sick of subsidizing those lazy Greeks....also Europeans are getting sick of paying for all the poor ungrateful Muslims invading their countries....

No it doesn't. You think it does, but it doesn't.

Germans can be as sick of the subsidising Greeks as they like, the link of their currencies means that German has been to export happily without their currency rising high and making their products too expensive. They OWE the Greeks.

And way to charecterise an entire nation as lazy, we had a guy round here who used to like to demonise lare groups of people. His was the jews. See, you lot on the RIGHT aren't so dissimilar after all.
 
Greece took 30 years to enjoy the results of Democratic Socialism. Venezuela took 20. For a while everyone partied, but now of course they are paying the piper.

Sorry folks. The USA of the 21st century looks much more like Greece and Venezuela than Denmark or Sweden, but at least we'll have diversity.

it looks more like Rome after the Barbarians knocked the gates down. Rome had their Progressives saying that the invaders were just "undocumented Romans"
 
Manchester said:
'Democratic Socialism' is an oxymoron....

Only when you're so wilfully stupid you want it to be.
socialism by definition takes away individual rights....not to mention property.....

Europeans are learning about 'social democracy' the hard way......Germans with their 50% income tax are pretty sick of subsidizing those lazy Greeks....also Europeans are getting sick of paying for all the poor ungrateful Muslims invading their countries....

No it doesn't. You think it does, but it doesn't.

Germans can be as sick of the subsidising Greeks as they like, the link of their currencies means that German has been to export happily without their currency rising high and making their products too expensive. They OWE the Greeks.

And way to charecterise an entire nation as lazy, we had a guy round here who used to like to demonise lare groups of people. His was the jews. See, you lot on the RIGHT aren't so dissimilar after all.

pray tell how it doesn't....

Germans OWE the Greeks? you got to be kidding...wait till they cut them off and see them try to collect then....

i knew you'd zero in on the dumbshit personal level...the point is the majority of Germans are sick and tired of paying high taxes to pay off the bankers for Greece's debt.....
 
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If you say so fat lad. And I'm telling you that your quote was Hitler lying. Unless you think he was just such a swell guy that he wouldn't do such a thing.
He was a socialist, so no. I am not saying that all socialist lie. I am saying you are ignorant though.

Give it up. You've lost because of your ignorance of history.

No he wasn't. It's not me telling you that either, it's the rest of the world. Pull out an encylopedia and it will have it right there. Nazi party, far right. You have taken one single line and decided that it is more important than everything that a dictator did in his whole reign of destruction. Just because you like to think that being right wing can't be wrong. It's laughable.

Also, you don't get to lose sight of that particular bit of history here.

'Democratic Socialism' is an oxymoron....

Only when you're so wilfully stupid you want it to be.
socialism by definition takes away individual rights....not to mention property.....

Europeans are learning about 'social democracy' the hard way......Germans with their 50% income tax are pretty sick of subsidizing those lazy Greeks....also Europeans are getting sick of paying for all the poor ungrateful Muslims invading their countries....

No it doesn't. You think it does, but it doesn't.

Germans can be as sick of the subsidising Greeks as they like, the link of their currencies means that German has been to export happily without their currency rising high and making their products too expensive. They OWE the Greeks.

And way to charecterise an entire nation as lazy, we had a guy round here who used to like to demonise lare groups of people. His was the jews. See, you lot on the RIGHT aren't so dissimilar after all.
WTF are you arguing with. Hitller making clear he was a socialist? WTF do you think Churchill thougtht he was even scummier than Stalin?! Even FDR thought he was too socialist. No one cared about the Jews at that point.


Chavs like you are should not discuss politics with their betters.for very obvious reasons.
 
Manchester said:
'Democratic Socialism' is an oxymoron....

Only when you're so wilfully stupid you want it to be.
socialism by definition takes away individual rights....not to mention property.....

Europeans are learning about 'social democracy' the hard way......Germans with their 50% income tax are pretty sick of subsidizing those lazy Greeks....also Europeans are getting sick of paying for all the poor ungrateful Muslims invading their countries....

No it doesn't. You think it does, but it doesn't.

Germans can be as sick of the subsidising Greeks as they like, the link of their currencies means that German has been to export happily without their currency rising high and making their products too expensive. They OWE the Greeks.

And way to charecterise an entire nation as lazy, we had a guy round here who used to like to demonise lare groups of people. His was the jews. See, you lot on the RIGHT aren't so dissimilar after all.

pray tell how it doesn't....

Germans OWE the Greeks? you got to be kidding...wait till they cut them off and see them try to collect then....

i knew you'd zero in on the dumbshit personal level...the point is the majority of Germans are sick and tired of paying high taxes to pay off the bankers for Greece's debt.....
I am a |Greek citizen and I understand that the Truman Doctrine poured money into Greece to stop the country from turning communist and to cover the cost of the German damage to Greece. Greece agreed and had unparalleled growth only to be surpassed until the military government took over in April. 1967.

Everything was understood for half a century until Greece blew it with socialist policies from the time the socialists took over in 1980.
 
The difference between socialism and capitalism is that capitalism works everywhere it's tried. Socialism works nowhere it's tried.

Although what that has to do with America I have no idea.

And socialism and capitalism can operate hand in hand, because socialism isn't communism.

Distinction without a difference

It's the same difference between nazisim and capitalism. If you can't see it then you're in the wrong place.
 
Manchester said:
'Democratic Socialism' is an oxymoron....

Only when you're so wilfully stupid you want it to be.
socialism by definition takes away individual rights....not to mention property.....

Europeans are learning about 'social democracy' the hard way......Germans with their 50% income tax are pretty sick of subsidizing those lazy Greeks....also Europeans are getting sick of paying for all the poor ungrateful Muslims invading their countries....

No it doesn't. You think it does, but it doesn't.

Germans can be as sick of the subsidising Greeks as they like, the link of their currencies means that German has been to export happily without their currency rising high and making their products too expensive. They OWE the Greeks.

And way to charecterise an entire nation as lazy, we had a guy round here who used to like to demonise lare groups of people. His was the jews. See, you lot on the RIGHT aren't so dissimilar after all.

pray tell how it doesn't....

Germans OWE the Greeks? you got to be kidding...wait till they cut them off and see them try to collect then....

i knew you'd zero in on the dumbshit personal level...the point is the majority of Germans are sick and tired of paying high taxes to pay off the bankers for Greece's debt.....

I told you in the fucking post if your dumb ass had bothered to read it you would have seen. But then if you don't understand simple economics and the movement of currency then you wont understand anyway. Sorry for pointing out your racism, you seem to really not like it.
 
Hitler was a socialist, pure as they come, but Democrats can never admit this horrible truth.

The whole world apart from american right wing lunatics know he was far right wing, even right wing lunatics from other parts of the world accept it. It's amazing how Americans can just happily lie to themselves when it comes to their own political beliefs and just make such oulandish claims. Climate change is a myth designed to steal my job, Hitler was left wing, being gay is a mental illness, all just drivel that gets spounted as absolute hard fact.
 
Hitler was a socialist, pure as they come, but Democrats can never admit this horrible truth.

The whole world apart from american right wing lunatics know he was far right wing, even right wing lunatics from other parts of the world accept it. It's amazing how Americans can just happily lie to themselves when it comes to their own political beliefs and just make such oulandish claims. Climate change is a myth designed to steal my job, Hitler was left wing, being gay is a mental illness, all just drivel that gets spounted as absolute hard fact.
What part of this is it you cannot understand?:

"We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."
  • John Toland, Adolf Hitler: The Definitive Biography (1976) p. 306. Hitler’s speech on May 1, 1927.
As with other socialists, he failed, killing almost as many as another socialist icon, Stalin.
 
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Hitler was a socialist, pure as they come, but Democrats can never admit this horrible truth.

The whole world apart from american right wing lunatics know he was far right wing, even right wing lunatics from other parts of the world accept it. It's amazing how Americans can just happily lie to themselves when it comes to their own political beliefs and just make such oulandish claims. Climate change is a myth designed to steal my job, Hitler was left wing, being gay is a mental illness, all just drivel that gets spounted as absolute hard fact.
Hitler was a Socialist, the National Socialist Workers Party of Germany. The NAZI'S even at one point made a brief alliance with the German Communists.

Using slave labor is classic socialism as was the seizing of Jewish property.

Gay? Hitler was gay, and then of course turned on his fellow gay comrades, night of the long knifes
 
The difference between socialism and capitalism is that capitalism works everywhere it's tried. Socialism works nowhere it's tried.

Although what that has to do with America I have no idea.

And socialism and capitalism can operate hand in hand, because socialism isn't communism.

Distinction without a difference

It's the same difference between nazisim and capitalism. If you can't see it then you're in the wrong place.

What if I told you that communism is a form of socialism.

What if I told you that capitalism is not a form of nazism. In fact it's about the polar opposite ideology.

And finally, what if I told that you are a regressed retard for making such stupid statement?
 

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