Democratic Socialism/Communism is the only solution to advanced automation & artificial intelligence.

[TruthNotBS]

It's clear you've never worked a real job in your life.
Hell, you sound like you've never worked to support yourself.
Also you have no idea of the full range or jobs and work that need to be done.

AI and advanced automation have severe limits in what they can and will do. However I'd love to see such operate on that tumor in your brain that makes you so dumb and worthless.

You're an ignorant retard. You don't have a clue about how advanced the technology is today.

 

[Stryder50]

You're an ignorant retard. You don't have a clue about how advanced the technology is today. I trained the AI for three years to operate the CNC machine and perform all of the coding. I'm a CNC coder, who once worked the floor operating CNC machines. My job was simply to train the AI and now I don't have that job. I now have to rely on another skill that I have to earn an income and my thirty years of being a machinist are gone, replaced by an AI CNC coder. Within the next six years there will be millions of Americans just like me, out of a job. The skill that I am now relying on to generate an income, will also be replaced by AI within the next five years. So you don't have a fucking clue.

Ever try milking a cow?
Butchering a pig?
Weed a garden?
Tend the plants and then the harvest of the garden?
Clean and fillet a tuna?
Drive a delivery truck route?
Set a broken bone?
Diagnose a hernia and do the repair surgery?

I've a late friend who did a similar job. Despite the programing, someone still had to load the correct metal into the machine, unload the finished part, check it for correctness, etc.

Would seem my clue is there are a lot more jobs to be done than you know or realize. And that just a start on how much you are clueless.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Ever try milking a cow?
Butchering a pig?
Weed a garden?
Tend the plants and then the harvest of the garden?
Clean and fillet a tuna?
Drive a delivery truck route?
Set a broken bone?
Diagnose a hernia and do the repair surgery?

I've a late friend who did a similar job. Despite the programing, someone still had to load the correct metal into the machine, unload the finished part, check it for correctness, etc.

Would seem my clue is there are a lot more jobs to be done than you know or realize. And that just a start on how much you are clueless.

You don't have a clue, how advanced the AI and automation is today. Practically everything you mentioned, can be automated and will, because capitalists have to compete with each other and if they don't automate their competitors will.

I deleted the reference to my CNC work, because it's personal. But you captured it in your response.I trained the AI to take my job and there are a lot of people like me. AI today is extremely intelligent and capable, of replacing practically all human labor that earns a wage.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Ever try milking a cow?
Butchering a pig?
Weed a garden?
Tend the plants and then the harvest of the garden?
Clean and fillet a tuna?
Drive a delivery truck route?
Set a broken bone?
Diagnose a hernia and do the repair surgery?

I've a late friend who did a similar job. Despite the programing, someone still had to load the correct metal into the machine, unload the finished part, check it for correctness, etc.

Would seem my clue is there are a lot more jobs to be done than you know or realize. And that just a start on how much you are clueless.

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[TruthNotBS]

AI Progress between 2023 and 2024:

2024:



The technology is advancing exponentially. Where will we be in 2026? How about 2030?

Humanoid robot technology is advancing at the same pace:

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[dblack]

How's the propaganda mill rolling?

 

[TruthNotBS]

How's the propaganda mill rolling?

It's doing good, thanks.

 

[Oddball]

You're an ignorant retard. You don't have a clue about how advanced the technology is today.

Says the sub-cretin whose fucking retarded ideology says there's no need for money, than claims that he's oppressed the bankers won't lend him any!

 

[TruthNotBS]

Says the sub-cretin whose fucking retarded ideology says there's no need for money, than claims that he's oppressed the bankers won't lend him any!

You have a reading comprehension problem. None of the socialist countries under siege by the US capitalist empire, are fully automated, and even if they were they could still use currency to purchase products from other countries. They can also sell products to countries that still use money and barter with those that don't. You're obviously confused.

 

[dblack]

It's doing good, thanks.

So is this just for quick cash, or are you promised a role in the inner politburo after the revolution?

 

[Mashmont]

It's obvious that the only true solution to the inevitable replacement of human wage-labor by advanced automation and artificial intelligence, is a marketless, non-profit, publicly owned, more democratic, centrally planned system of mass production, a.k.a. socialism. The billionaires see the writing on the wall:

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No wage labor (or not enough of it) = No Paying Consumers (or not enough customers) = No Market (or not a large enough market worth investing in) = No Profits (not enough ROI) = No Capitalism (No Capitalists Making A Profit) = Socialism (non-profit, marketless production that doesn't rely on wages being paid to a labor force, that purchases products and services in a market).

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When production is fully or mostly automated, there's no more need for wage-labor or markets. Socialism is the natural, inevitable successor of capitalism, just as capitalism was the successor of feudalism.

Americans due to decades of Cold War anti-socialist, capitalist propaganda, and brainwashing, are unable to accept this self-evident fact. It's mostly Americans over 50 years old, who have trouble coming to terms with this, not the younger generation. The Millenials are much more open to socialism and the Zoomers are the most socialist generation in American history.

The transition to a non-profit system of production is going to be much smoother in the near future, as boomers retire and the younger generation takes the helm.

There will always be ambitious people who want to do as well as they can through hard work, entrepreneurism, and a motivation to help others.. The question is will they be stamped out by the greed of the few who want to enrich themselves by controlling everything and everyone through government.

 

[TruthNotBS]

So is this just for quick cash, or are you promised a role in the inner politburo after the revolution?

I will be a member of the politburo and I'm currently a member of the Comintern as well. Thanks for asking.

 

[Mashmont]

You're going to have a higher standard of living. You're going to own so much stuff, due to how cheap mass production is going to become, that you won't know what to do with all of it. Food, clothing, devices, gadgets, "toys", healthcare, public transit, that takes you everywhere, quickly, plus your personal vehicle. etc. The future is one of EXTREME ABUNDANCE. Robots work 24/7, for nothing.

Marxist always ignore (perhaps intentionally) the simple truth that only motivated people do good work. This is why Communist countries are doomed to failure and Capitalist countries succeed.

 

[Oddball]

You have a reading comprehension problem. None of the socialist countries under siege by the US capitalist empire, are fully automated, and even if they were they could still use currency to purchase products from other countries. They can also sell products to countries that still use money and barter with those that don't. You're obviously confused.

No I don't....You're a fucking buffoon whose ideology is a massive run-on contradiction.

You insist upon the intellectual fraudulence of conflating laissez-faire with corporatism.

You're idiotic enough to believe that the violent and oppressive nature of The State can be put in check, just because it presumably does everything in the name of "the people".

You dishonestly call nations that have market economies (albeit heavily burdened by massive welfare state apparati) as "socialist".

The things I've touched on are only a couple of the most glaring contradictions in reasoning that your Marxist claptrap is rife with....You're not only nothing new, you're tiresome and banal as fuck.

 

[TruthNotBS]

There will always be ambitious people who want to do as well as they can. The question is will they be stamped out by the greed of the few who want to enrich themselves by controlling everything and everyone through government.

Government is whatever we the people want it to be. I see it as a social apparatus, organized by the people to manage their large-scale socioeconomic, and civil affairs and projects. Under capitalism, you're under the administration of the business enterprise, which is run like a totalitarian government. Tens of millions of American workers spend most of their waking hours in a workplace that is run like an authoritarian dictatorship, without elections or any say on how the business is run. Mass production is a social endeavor, not a private one, hence everyone who works in the business should own it collectively.

 

[Oddball]

There will always be ambitious people who want to do as well as they can through hard work, entrepreneurism, and a motivation to help others.. The question is will they be stamped out by the greed of the few who want to enrich themselves by controlling everything and everyone through government.

Yet another thing our commie sub-imbecile refuses to recognize, is that the more you centralize and consolidate State power, the more it will attract greedy, power lusting, avaricious fiends who seek that power as an end unto itself.

But THIS TIME, it'll be different!

 

[dblack]

Government is whatever we the people want it to be.

You mean, "we the majority", which is a different concept entirely.

 

[Mashmont]

Government is whatever we the people want it to be. I see it as a social apparatus, organized by the people to manage their large-scale socioeconomic, and civil affairs and projects. Under capitalism, you're under the administration of the business enterprise, which is run like a totalitarian government. Tens of millions of American workers spend most of their waking hours in a workplace that is run like an authoritarian dictatorship, without elections or any say on how the business is run. Mass production is a social endeavor, not a private one, hence everyone who works in the business should own it collectively.

I refused to join that rat race and set out on my own 35 years ago. Socialism precludes people like me from having freedom to do what I want.

 

[dblack]

I refused to join that rat race and set out on my own 35 years ago. Socialism precludes people like me from having freedom to do what I want.

Indeed. You'd be public enemy #1 in a socialist society.

 

[Oddball]