The Pale Orc
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- Aug 4, 2018
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- Boston, MA
That was different. It was a bi-partisan bill and the world was shut down. So people weren't buying used cars. People were ordering online. Many lost their jobs and there was a massive unknown and still I thought that stimulus was over the top. Biden did his when the economy was recovering nicely and those monies and additional unemployment benefits were not necessary and that bill was 100% partisan. If Trump did the same btw, I would be trashing him too.Ok so Biden did $1400 checks and $300 a month unemployment and that triggered hyperinflation which caused used cars to go up 10% in a matter of two months. Sounds simple enough. So when Trumps did his two stimulus plans of $1200 and $600 checks plus $600 a month for unemployment how much hyperinflation did that trigger and how much did the used cars go up?You don’t understand basic economics and finance. Actually all that cash does cause hyper inflation. When the supply of money is that much greater people buy a lot more goods and hence the price of goods spikes. Used car prices are up nearly 10%. So you’re wrong again. That was a stupid and unnecessary stimulus. You enjoy your $1400 though. This explains why your small businesses failed.I would like to know how you link it all together. If you are going to attribute blame then show the cause and effect. The $1400 checks and $300 a month don't flood the market with cash and cause hyper inflation in a two month period. Once that money cycles through the economy for a while and it ends up in the accounts of the wealthy then they start buying and investing and that drives up the prices. You could make that point and it would be a good one. This is why taxing the wealthy is a balancing factor against inflation. Gas prices are going up because the economy is opening and people are traveling more. You had a suppressed industry that just gained a surge of demand... A spike in prices is expected as they ramp up supply and then pricing will balance out. You say I don't understand economics yet here I am explaining how it all works while you link partisan attack articles with no substance and fail to explain the points you make or even provide counter arguments. Do better.$1.9trn was the package. $1,400 checks went out. $300 per month extra unemployment. Gas prices up $1 per gallon or more in many areas compared to the same period last year. What additional details would you like? Be specific. 85% of our goods are still transported via trucks so the increase in fuel costs will be pushed to the consumer. Inflation happens very quickly and we are seeing it now.I did read it and it is just as pointless and lazy as your posts. Its just a partisan hit piece that repeats talking points and lacks details. They say Biden is responsible for the increased inflation because he flooded the market with money it didn't need. No link, no reference to anything... How much money has been flooded in these two months? I've been trying to ask you. The best you've done is point to two months of $300 a month payments to unemployed people... that is not going to move the market into hyper inflation.I linked an article. Don’t be lazy. Read it.School me on it then. Show me that what I'm saying is wrong or explain the claims you make. You dismissing the conversation just shows that you don't know what you're talking about.You don’t understand basic finance and economics. It’s OKYes prices can change overnight depending on events. Lets say Biden shut down a pipeline like he did with Keystone, but it was an active pipeline that halted the delivery of oil and effected supply, that could trigger a massive spike in prices. Just like we saw happen when this other pipeline got hacked. But that spike was due to a hack not due to Bidens policy. There is a case to be made about the ultimate effects of many of his policies. But to ignorantly say that he is causing what's happening right now... Hyper inflation because he funded $300 payments to people who were unemployed for two months... Thats just stupid. Did Trump cause twice as much hyper inflation with the $600 payments they did when he was prez? No. Lets get realHow fast should it move? Honest question. Prices may change overnight. It happens. Do you disagree with anything that I said was stupid?Yes I get that you think Biden is mentally ill and his policies stupid. Reading you loud and clear. But when you make ignorant claims like blaming him for gas prices that surged due to a hacked pipeline and hyperinflation two months after he passed his first spending Bill, well, then you just sounds like you don’t know what your talking about.I am 100%. That bill was stupid. Halting fracking was stupid. Border policy is stupid. Allowing Russians to hack us without repercussions is stupid. Sending money to Palestinians was stupid.You’re not connecting the dots and we both know why.He sponsored the bill for the $1.9Tn. Read the article.I understand the conditions that cause inflation, I’m challenging the blame you are putting on Biden for it. He has been in office for like 3 months. We both know it’s idiotic to think he triggered a hyper inflation from a bill that he signed two months ago. They haven’t even spent the funds from the previous stimulus bills. That was one of the republicans objections to the most recent bill. So if you want to play the partisan presidential blame game you could say that Trump caused the current state of inflation and Bidens new plans are only going to make it worse. That would be a fair argument. But I’m going to pick on you for the way you are attributing blame and selective explanations you use to justify it. You aren’t considering many obvious explanations like supply chain problems and a rapidly opening economyIt is a part of it. I have explained this to you dozens of times. More money circulating and you have inflation. Look at commodities pricing.You’re saying that paying unemployed people $300 per month over a 3 month period has caused massive hyper inflation?! You really gonna stand behind that?$300 per month per unemployed person is how much? BillionsYes understood... the one that the reps opposed because the funds from the previous bills hadn’t even been spent yet. So I’ll ask again how much has Biden spent from his stimulus that has flooded the market and caused hyper inflation in the course of a month or two? Please be specific and show that you know what you’re talking about because it really doesn’t appear like you do.His stimulus package you fuckhead. The one he pushed and got zero GOP support.It’s not a game. You’re making claims without knowing the facts. If you think Biden has caused hyper inflation by overspending then tell me how much he has spent.... approximatelyI am not playing this game. Google it.How much money has he printed and spent?Printing of money, no more gas independence, intent to charge income tax rates vs capital gains tax rates on M&A deals.How so?His policies have caused hyper inflation.Haha, inflation is in essence a tax so it’s cool to say that Biden will raise your taxes?! That’s just stupidity.Inflation is in essence a tax on everyone. You really don’t understand basic finance and economics. You’re as ignorant as rightwinger who tries to mask his stupidity with constant attempts at humor.If you made a smart argument on how Bidens tax policy would indirectly effect lower income people then you be making a fair point worthy of debate, but the mindless talking points tell people that Biden is going to raise your taxes when his plans have very directly said that he will not raise taxes on people earning less than $400K a year. As for guns, you are now talking about outliers in congress which you then paint as the left coming for your guns. Thats not an honest argument. This is why I call all this nonsense rhetoric a tactic that really only trolls and mindless partisans fall for.Do you really think Biden's plan won't hit people under 400k? Historically, is that what happens? As for guns, there are many members of congress who want to get rid of the 2nd amendment saying it only pertained to militias. The middle class always gets taxed more, and getting rid of guns seems to be on the democrat wish list.It’s a tactic... for example Bidens plan is to not raise taxes for anybody making less than $400k yet the tactic says Biden will raise your taxes. The gun control measures are for background checks, and a select few variety of weapons yet the tactic says they are going to take your guns away. It’s extremely dishonest but also not hard to see right throughThey openly admit to high taxes and and they constantly try to go after firearms. Is that a tactic, or just accurate? You can replace 'commie' with support for larger government, but that just seems like semantics.That’s a very common tactic. Just as the Right,That is how the current Democratic Party wins elections IMO.Not what I meant at all but I think you knew thatYou mean give away more free shit and have the news media treat them fairly? Got it!The other party has had a chance since the signing of our constitution. People are free to vote for whomever they want. If you want the other party to get more votes then they need to campaign better and run better Reps
#1) Call Republicans rich, white, homophobic, gun carrying racists
#2) Promise Free shit
#3) Have the media reiterate #1 and #2 over and over again
What am I missing?
1. Calls Dems commies and says they are trying to make America a socialist country
2. Says they are coming for your guns ad liberties
3. Pretends everybody’s taxes are going to skyrocket
etc etc etc
the talking points from both sides are so tired and old.
Sort of a pattern there.
Again, how much more detail would you like? Do you think the war in the Middle East will have a positive or negative impact on gas prices? What about the terror attack on the pipeline?
When was the last time you filled up? I just Paid $3.10 per gallon or about $1.10 more than I paid about six months ago. Hmmmmm…