Democrat Senator Mark Kelly Faces Court-Martial After Department of War Launches Review of Allegations of Misconduct

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

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It's not what was said, but how it was said.
First there's implied

Implied speech is not actionable under the law. They cannot control the way your brain interprets facts.

 

[Darkwind]

Is that not required from them now, under their oath. I especially like this part, "I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.". Shit, we are already requiring that 20 year old to be a full blown JAG officer.

The presumption of lawfulness for officers appointed above you is the standard.

What is out of the ordinary is for an unlawful order to make it to the ranks from the CnC without the order having been vetted 12 ways to Sunday.

These Democrats are telling the entire world that our Military is too stupid to understand.

That message should also be shouted out loudly across the entire nation.

 

[Darkwind]

The only thing Kelly did was disagree with trump. The childish revenge presidency continues.

He did much more than that.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I hope they try it.

Clearly MAGAts must be smacked down and embarrassed on a daily basis for anything to get through their thick skulls.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Only when they are on the floor of the House/Senate

You're comfortable with him telling the 2 million servicemen/women that they have to question every order from their superiors to determine whether they think it is legal or not legal? And yes, that is exactly what he is saying.

Not what they said in the video.

 

[marvin martian]

I hope they try it.

Clearly MAGAts must be smacked down and embarrassed on a daily basis for anything to get through their thick skulls.

What illegal orders has President Trump issued?

Your fellow insurrectionists in Congress couldn't come up with any. Can you help them out?

 

[Concerned American]

The rights of Congress under the Constitution trump.

Congress members cannot communicate confidential material---legally--to a foreign adversary. In case you didn't know that is a limit on free speech. Try again, there are other restrictions.

A reminder, he retired decades ago.

Retired service members are subject to recall. Educate yourself.

 

[Doc7505]

Yet another person who doesn't understand the term "treason".

This is a crock of crap, because Kelly cannot be punished for telling the truth. Although it was intended to cause dissent, there was nothing "illegal" about it. He tarnished whatever reputation he had as a Navy officer and astronaut by his political leanings, especially his views on the 2nd Amendment. As I said earlier, he is the first human being to suffer brain damage when his wife was shot in the head. However, I cannot charge him with criminal acts if he did none.

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Yes indeed. If the Pentagon and/or the Sec. Of War made the decision to pursue the words and actions of Mark Kelly. The can recall him to active duty and then proceed.
Granted it would be tedious and full of pitfalls for both parties.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

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Yes indeed. If the Pentagon and/or the Sec. Of War made the decision to pursue the words and actions of Mark Kelly. The can recall him to active duty and then proceed.
Granted it would be tedious and full of pitfalls for both parties.

Proceed to court martial him for saying what every drill sergeant and recruiter and officer also says?

This is the height of MAGAt delusion.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Impossible? Impossible to NOT see it as subversive.

There is absolutely no need to remind the Military of their duty under the UCMJ.


NONE AT ALL.

Agreed. But to do so is not illegal.

 

[Concerned American]

What illegal orders has President Trump issued?

Your fellow insurrectionists in Congress couldn't come up with any. Can you help them out?

This is all BS. The democrats and republicans are playing the same "look over here, not over there--nothing to see there" game. Dems produced a video telling GIs a fact. Nothing illegal about it, but it has us talking about it. The repubs countered with this court martial stuff. They won't do it because they know it would fail. Same thing Trump did with MAGA 2028.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

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Yes indeed. If the Pentagon and/or the Sec. Of War made the decision to pursue the words and actions of Mark Kelly. The can recall him to active duty and then proceed.
Granted it would be tedious and full of pitfalls for both parties.

It's a ******* fool's errand. Waste of time and money. They are merely covering their asses politically for Republicans.

 

[Concerned American]

Impossible? Impossible to NOT see it as subversive.

There is absolutely no need to remind the Military of their duty under the UCMJ.


NONE AT ALL.

You're right, but it isn't illegal to do so.

 

[schmidlap]

It was subversive. But you don't make the call.

He has specific duties as a former military member and can be recalled into active service for cause.

All of this is nothing more than setting a stage to undermine the authority of the President of the United States as Commander-in-Chief.

That is a serious thing. It will be up to a military Tribunal to determine the legal line they may or may not have crossed.

But no one is fooled by what they are doing, and it is reprehensible that you are defending it.

The blowhard's hysterics and perversion of the military justice system are ludicrous.

Kelly did not even remotely suggest that anyone in the military should disobey legal orders issued by Trump or any superior officer..

What Kelly said conforms to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

The blowhard is desperate because of his plunging approval.

 

[Rawley]

it’s impossible to consider it subversive.

Telling service members to question every order they get from their superiors isn't subversive?

 

[marvin martian]

Proceed to court martial him for saying what every drill sergeant and recruiter and officer also says?

This is the height of MAGAt delusion.

What illegal orders has President Trump issued?

Your fellow insurrectionists in Congress couldn't come up with any. Can you help them out?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Telling service members to question every order they get from their superiors isn't subversive?

Irrelevant

 

[marvin martian]

The blowhard's hysterics and perversion of the military justice system are ludicrous.

Kelly did not even remotely suggest that anyone in the military should disobey legal orders issued by Trump or any superior officer..

What Kelly said conforms the the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

The blowhard is desperate because of his plunging approval.

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What illegal orders has President Trump issued?

Your fellow insurrectionists in Congress couldn't come up with any. Can you help them out?

 

[Marener]

Telling service members to question every order they get from their superiors isn't subversive?

Why shouldn’t they consider whether their orders are legal?

 

[Concerned American]

The only thing Kelly did was disagree with trump. The childish revenge presidency continues.

Pot meet Kettle, moron. Impeachments, kangaroo court civil cases, kangaroo court docs cases, kangaroo court falsifying cases---no revenge there, eh. Just STFU, as usual you're an idiot.