Democrat Senator Mark Kelly Faces Court-Martial After Department of War Launches Review of Allegations of Misconduct

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Oh, so it was innocent training video made for the US military. Because they don’t know the rules about following order.

Maybe all do, maybe not all do. In either case, it sends a message to them and to the President that this principle will stand.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Hey, you were told to stay in your cry corner.

The hobbits courts martial will sort out his crime.

Care to tell us what illegal orders the little hobbit was telling troops to ignore?

I already answered that. And why it's not relevant.

But I would think the guy who started this thread could name at least ONE rule or law Kelly broke.

I guess not.

 

[Winco]

And yes, that is exactly what he is saying.

I know you clearly have to always defend trumps word salad as "This is what he meant."

You don't get to do that with Kelly.

Just show us Exactly where any of them said trump had given an illegal order.

 

[Hollie]

Maybe all do, maybe not all do. In either case, it sends a message to them and to the President that this principle will stand.

The “principle” of leftist morons instructing those serving to ignore orders they don’t “feel” are legal?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The “principle” of leftist morons instructing those serving to ignore orders they don’t “feel” are legal?

Yes, basically, the existing state of affairs for quite a ling time. The message was a reaffirmation of it.

 

[Rawley]

I know you clearly have to always defend trumps word salad as "This is what he meant."

You don't get to do that with Kelly.

Just show us Exactly where any of them said trump had given an illegal order.

LOL Winnie wins the Irony award of the day. Once again.

 

[Hollie]

I already answered that. And why it's not relevant.

But I would think the guy who started this thread could name at least ONE rule or law Kelly broke.

I guess not.

I guess the little lady who is in thrall to a silly leftist infomercial could identify a single “illegal order” issued by Trump.

What a total joke.

 

[Hollie]

Yes, basically, the existing state of affairs for quite a ling time. The message was a reaffirmation of it.

The infomercial was specific about defying illegal orders by Trump.

What were those illegal orders?

Obviously, you can’t identify any. Neither could you leftist moron heroes who made the infomercial.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I guess the little lady who is in thrall to a silly leftist infomercial could identify a single “illegal order” issued by Trump.

What a total joke.

Let's say there are none so far. Let's grant this to you.

Doesn't change the message.

Okay, your turn.

Are you saying Kelly broke no rules so far? Or that he did?

 

[Mack The Finger]

The hell I don't question unlawful orders given by a superior.

For grunts on the ground and sailors on the flight deck, routine orders are no problem.

Howver a grunt ordered to murder women and children in a villiage or me getting orders from to the ship to roll in an F-18 on stike on a civilian target.

Now we are in the stage where the courts are examining the orders of Trump to deploy troops to cities for law enforcement in violation of the law.

WW

We are in a war of words !

You always question something you think is a unlawful order !

Have the CO (etc) clear it.

You working in a compound and a bunch of hippies arrive and start disorder. You standing next to the commander and one of the devil worshipers grabs a shipmate (physically). You commander hands you a wrench and says split his head open.

(I am sure you understand why the officer wouldn't do it personally.)

So split the guys head open and give 34 stiches.

Was that a illegal order ?

Most of the people here don't even know what a illegal order is.

They don't care about facts...only the agenda maters and as a VET I can't
believe you are cuddling with them.

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[Hollie]

I already answered that. And why it's not relevant.

But I would think the guy who started this thread could name at least ONE rule or law Kelly broke.

I guess not.

You already made a weak attempt to sidestep and deflect.

What illegal orders are troops to defy?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You already made a weak attempt to sidestep and deflect.

What illegal orders are troops to defy?

All of them, what a silly question.

So, what rules has Kelly broken?

You can say, "I don't know." That is allowed.

 

[Hollie]

Let's say there are none so far. Let's grant this to you.

Doesn't change the message.

Okay, your turn.

Are you saying Kelly broke no rules so far? Or that he did?

Yes. We can say there are no illegal orders issued by Trump because for all your whining, you provide only shrill rhetoric.

I’m saying the Military courts martial is the body that will decide any laws broken.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Imagine if the Republicans put their time and effort towards things that actually matter to the American people. Maybe they wouldn't be headed towards a mid-term election disaster and Trump wouldn't have a 60% disapproval rating.

If we had taken your advice the last ten years we wouldn’t have won anything.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yes. We can say there are no illegal orders issued by Trump because for all your whining, you provide only shrill rhetoric.

I’m saying the Military courts martial is the body that will decide any laws broken.

OK, so "I don't know" it is.

I have a feeling that Hegseth's Department of War doesn't know, either. That this is theater for an audience of one. And by proxy, his supporters, for when the Big Guy goes face down.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Telling our troops to defy illegal orders is both lawful and part of the training every recruit gets.

And Trump has not given any illegal orders.
These Democrats are inciting sedition.

 

[wamose]

This shit has to stop. Too many connected Democrats are getting away with treason by inciting coups. Enough

 

[Hollie]

All of them, what a silly question.

So, what rules has Kelly broken?

You can say, "I don't know." That is allowed.

You can say “Duh” as your lack of any knowledge regarding military convention makes you susceptible to ridicule.

I refer you to both federal law and the UCMJ.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

If we had taken your advice the last ten years we wouldn’t have won anything.

Americans want the Republicans to address affordability and instead of doing that you’re all obsessing over a stupid video from a week ago.

This will surely bring you victory in the midterms

 

[Hollie]

OK, so "I don't know" it is.

I have a feeling that Hegseth's Department of War doesn't know, either. That this is theater for an audience of one. And by proxy, his supporters, for when the Big Guy goes face down.

OK so you retreat to ‘I can’t support my false claims”. You have “feelings” that are not a part of either federal law or the UCMJ.