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- Sep 13, 2012
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- Near Magnolia, TX
Did I say public school? Let’s call it a private school, that’s a business right? They have janitors? So do office buildings and hospitals and many other businesses, right?. Are you that retarded that you don’t get the point, you need to play little word games?! Come in Bri step it upA public school is not a business, moron. Any more deflections?Haha, these aren’t deflections these are examples of low wage jobs that aren’t directly related to making money for a business. You’ve been trying to make the point that an employee is only worth what they can bring in. I’m showing you thats BS. Get it now?You chooseYou didn't say what kind of school.I asked a simple question... how much money does a janitor make for a school?How much money does a janitor make for a school?Unless it’s Socialism then yes.Is it the employees job to make me money?I’ve ran my own businesses did the past 15 years. I understand the nature of business. I could never stomach utilizing 40 hours a week 50 weeks a year of somebody’s time and only paying them $15k. I don’t care what job they were doingUnskilled labor, and yes it can be hard. A job like that pays less than skilled labor jobs. If you are a business owner, you will look at things a little differently when it is your money and you own the overhead. Trust me. It is very difficult for someone who has never had to meet payroll to understand the nature of business.Ok $15k and benefits. You good with that for full time work? The jobs you listed aren’t learning jobs btw, they are straight up hard laborYes, I think everybody deserves more. It isn't only $15000. It also benefits that need to be added to the mix and then it becomes a matter of affordability.You think picking veggies in a field all day is a learning task? Or digging trenches or cleaning bathroom floors?! What exactly are they learning? And if somebody spends 40 hours a week 50 weeks a year doing those jobs do you really think they deserve to make less than $15,000 a year ?! Really think about thatFarmhands, landscaping, clean-up, etc.What kind of work are you talking about? And what are they learning? Can you give a couple examples?The fact is that these immigrants do the work that American workers are too lazy to do, and $15 isn't going to change that. My view is that $15 is too high a wage for the kind of work that they do because that basic wage is a learning wage only.Importing millions of low-skilled illegal aliens, making them legal and hiking the minimum wage is not going to increase the demand for low-skilled native born US citizen workers.llegal aliens work for less than minimum wage. Make them legal, force employers to pay them MW and RAISE the MW and the downward pressure on wages go away.
Who determines the value an employee adds?
OK. Show your work
If you take $10 of input and turn it into an $18 product in 1 hour, you created $8 of value/hour.
If an employee wasn't making you money, what would you do?
A lot less than a teacher who'd have to do the cleaning if he wasn't there. It's called value added. I thought you own a business, you don't seem to know much about running one.
Since most schools are not profit making businesses it's irrelevant to the conversation. No one is there to make money for the school. Any more deflections?
Dumb fuck, you told me to chose.
Once I did, you tried to move the goal post. Run along and play your ignorant word games with someone else.You choose