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How have Democratic policies towards Egypt differed from Republican policies?
How have Democratic policies towards Egypt differed from Republican policies?
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PC
How have Democratic policies towards Egypt differed from Republican policies?
PC
How have Democratic policies towards Egypt differed from Republican policies?
The question I have for you, Wingy, is your reaction to this administration abruptly throwing the Mubarak government under the bus.
PC
How have Democratic policies towards Egypt differed from Republican policies?
The question I have for you, Wingy, is your reaction to this administration abruptly throwing the Mubarak government under the bus.
3. Yet no problem of American foreign policy is more urgent than that of formulating a morally and strategically acceptable, and politically realistic, program for dealing with non-democratic governments who are threatened by ...subversion.
Oh Jeane, playing apologist to repressive authoritarian regimes as usual - well, "our" repressive authoritarian regimes, anyway. Sadly for her, there is no morally acceptable way of dealing with brutal dictatorships - as her time with Reagan demonstrated, they went for "strategically" acceptable ways, ie. selling weapons to the here-much-maligned Iranian regime and engaging in a brutal war of terror against Nicaragua, in her two examples.
In either which case, I'm glad Reagan had her as an adviser, he absolutely needed her strong moral compass to determine just how much more moral it was to financially and politically support the overwhelmingly benign Saddam Hussein against those evil Ayatollahs! I mean, anyone else would've thought "Hey, this guy is brutally murdering the opposition and committing a genocide against a minority" - but FUCK, Jeane could at least see that unlike those evil Ayatollahs he didn't have such an unruly beard - and at least he didn't depose our benign, benevolent, bleeding-heart friend the Shah, who, I mean, c'mon, he may have had private armies that swore loyalty to him over the nation and he may have suspended democracy indefinitely, and he may have used police forces that were too harsh and brutal, but hey, he sent his kids over here! That's gotta count for something. We'll convince him to democratize eventually - right?
If only, just if only the Iranian people had waited a little longer, I'm sure Ms. Kirkpatrick would've convinced the Shah to bring democracy to Iran, because, really, he wasn't so bad. Just like she would've definitely done with her good friend (literally) her good friend General Leopoldo Galtieri, Butcher of Buenos Air- oh, I'm sorry, benign autocrat of Argentina, who started a pointless war against Great Britain so that his constituency would forget about the fact that he "disappeared" thousands of people for thinking the wrong way. But hey, we all make mistakes, and nobody's perfect.
Anyway, I dunno about you PoliticalChic, but people can only take it up the ass by brutal dictatorships for so long before shit hits the fan. Obama is not "losing" Egypt. Egypt is fighting for its freedom from a brutal 30-year dictatorship that your President's timid statements almost implicitly support. You're suggesting he should do more? You're suggesting that the US government should go ahead and send some emergency stealth planes to save the sclerotic, corrupt regime of an 82-year old autocrat?
And then you'll wonder "Why do they hate us?"
You guys just don't get it, do you.
Another populous, pivotal nation falling away from the Western sphere...another piece of the jigsaw puzzle of the Middle East...
You don't see the effects on terrorism, how this will guarantee attacks on our nation. "By the age of 14, Ayman al-Zawahiri had joined the Muslim Brotherhood....often described as a "lieutenant" to Osama bin Laden,..."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayman_al-Zawahiri
Some of you fellas never studied contemporary history...some, and this is worse, are wilfully blind because you can see the fingerprints of the left on this fiasco.
PC
How have Democratic policies towards Egypt differed from Republican policies?
The question I have for you, Wingy, is your reaction to this administration abruptly throwing the Mubarak government under the bus.
Maybe this is why the right keeps trying to sully the word democracy?
Do you remember ANYTHING about why the US used to be beloved world wide?
Because we stood for freedom and democracy.
Backing a dictator who fakes elections and crushes the spirit of freedom in his people is not good long term foriegn policy if you believe in democracy.
You and the people who side with you on this issue seem to not love democracy as much as you love your failed ideals who should rule over who.
You have failed the test of being a freedom loving AMERICAN who loves the idea of democracy our founders left us.
Think a while and take the test again when you have reflected on what a commitment to freedom and democracy really requires of you.
You can always redeem yourself.
Words have definitions even if you dont know them
The question I have for you, Wingy, is your reaction to this administration abruptly throwing the Mubarak government under the bus.
Maybe this is why the right keeps trying to sully the word democracy?
Do you remember ANYTHING about why the US used to be beloved world wide?
Because we stood for freedom and democracy.
Backing a dictator who fakes elections and crushes the spirit of freedom in his people is not good long term foriegn policy if you believe in democracy.
You and the people who side with you on this issue seem to not love democracy as much as you love your failed ideals who should rule over who.
You have failed the test of being a freedom loving AMERICAN who loves the idea of democracy our founders left us.
Think a while and take the test again when you have reflected on what a commitment to freedom and democracy really requires of you.
You can always redeem yourself.
This is an interesting post, primarily due to its guileless nature.
It supposes that the word 'democracy' has a universal definiton...
sadly it does not.
To put it another way, the word democracy would apply in the way we mean it today in America if, and only if, the Egypian people had the same background, diversity, experiences and upbringing of the American people today.
I commend to you both a study of the history of various Middle East nations, and the poetry of Alexander Pope:
"A Little Learning Is a Dangerous Thing, Drink Deep, or Taste Not the Pierian Spring..."
You guys just don't get it, do you.
Another populous, pivotal nation falling away from the Western sphere...another piece of the jigsaw puzzle of the Middle East...
You don't see the effects on terrorism, how this will guarantee attacks on our nation. "By the age of 14, Ayman al-Zawahiri had joined the Muslim Brotherhood....often described as a "lieutenant" to Osama bin Laden,..."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayman_al-Zawahiri
You don't see the results for the price of oil....there is no alternative; green energy is a fraud.
You haven't learned what the results of turning over Iran to the radicals by Carter I.
So, did you see an increase in 'democracy' in this Iran over Palavi's Iran?
Does some esoteric description of 'democracy' include the massacre of the Copts? The Jews?
Now Egypt submitted to the radicals by Obama (Carter II). Another weak leftist ignorant of human nature, or the existence of evil. Another excuse for moral relativism.
Did you- or Carter II see it coming? Know why?
Some of you fellas never studied contemporary history...some, and this is worse, are wilfully blind because you can see the fingerprints of the left on this fiasco.