Democrat policies increase American gun ownership to record level...52%. ..........will they run on this?

[2aguy]

Good for America........gun ownership among U.S. voters is at a record level...

Democrat policies...

1) destroy the ability of police to control violent criminals

2) release repeat gun offenders and other violent criminals over and over again

Result.......

In America, the people don't have to simply be victims of violent crime the way people in other parts of the world are.....

More than half of American voters -- 52% -- say they or someone in their household owns a gun, per the latest NBC News national poll.

That's the highest share of voters who say that they or someone in their household owns a gun in the history of the NBC News poll, on a question dating back to 1999.


In 2019, 46% of Americans said that they or someone in their household owned a gun, per an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll. And in February 2013, that share was 42%.

Poll: Gun ownership reaches record high with American electorate

A record share of voters in NBC News' latest poll say that they or someone in their household owns a gun.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[M14 Shooter]

Republicans: 57% to 66%, a 15.8% increase
Democrats: 33% to 41%, a 26.4% increase.
Why do you suppose more -Democrats- are buying guns?

 

[2aguy]

Republicans: 57% to 66%, a 15.8% increase
Democrats: 33% to 41%, a 26.4% increase.
Why do you suppose more -Democrats- are buying guns?

Well......they voted for more crime, less police, and now they are living under what they voted for.....sadly, their brains will never make the connection between voting for democrats and out of control crime in the cities the democrats control....

 

[2aguy]

Republicans: 57% to 66%, a 15.8% increase
Democrats: 33% to 41%, a 26.4% increase.
Why do you suppose more -Democrats- are buying guns?

And the idiot democrats will vote for the democrats who are going to take those guns away from them....

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

609 mass shooting this year (four or more shot, excluding the perp).

 

[M14 Shooter]

609 mass shooting this year (four or more shot, excluding the perp).

Yawn.

 

[2aguy]

609 mass shooting this year (four or more shot, excluding the perp).

Nope, that is a lie that you guys keep using because the facts, truth and reality dont support anything you believe


in 2022 thwre were 12 mass public shootings....12 individuals out of a population of over 350 million people

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Your lies, 2aguy, are so boring.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Your lies, 2aguy, are so boring.

Yawn.

 

[2aguy]

Your lies, 2aguy, are so boring.

Wow, you didnt even try on that one....starting the holiday early?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Wow, you didnt even try on that one....starting the holiday early?

I smacked down your silly allegation. 609 mass shooting so far.

Forbes
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/10/...

More Than 600 Killed In U.S. Mass Shootings This Year ... - Forbes​

WebMore than 600 people have been killed in mass shootings in the U.S. so far this year, the highest death toll from mass shootings in at least 10 years, according to the Gun Violence...

 

[2aguy]

I smacked down your silly allegation. 609 mass shooting so far.

Forbes
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/10/...

More Than 600 Killed In U.S. Mass Shootings This Year ... - Forbes​

WebMore than 600 people have been killed in mass shootings in the U.S. so far this year, the highest death toll from mass shootings in at least 10 years, according to the Gun Violence...

That link lies.....you have to use a link that lies about mass public shootings....you are an idiot....

Here is the truth....from left wing, anti-gun, Mother Jones.....

US mass shootings, 1982–2023: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
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• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
  • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
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Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.



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The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......


US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

Deer kill 200 people a year.....

Lawn mowers between 90-100 people a year....

Ladders 300 people a year....

bathtubs 350 people a year...

Cars killed over 39,000 people in 2019...


2022...12

2021...6

2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1

School shootings...

2022.....1
2021....1
2020....0
2019....0
2018.....2
2017....0
2016...0
2015....1 (community college)
2014...1
2013.....0
2012....2
2011....0
2010...0
2006.....1
1999.......1
1998.....2
1992....1
1989....1

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation





Total number of people killed in mass public shootings by year...


2022....74
2021...43
2020....5
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

 

[2aguy]

I smacked down your silly allegation. 609 mass shooting so far.

Forbes
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/10/...

More Than 600 Killed In U.S. Mass Shootings This Year ... - Forbes​

WebMore than 600 people have been killed in mass shootings in the U.S. so far this year, the highest death toll from mass shootings in at least 10 years, according to the Gun Violence...

This is how your link lies.......

The problem is how Bryant and his 20 staffers define mass shootings. When most people hear the term “mass shooting,” they picture a crazed gunman stalking the halls of a school or a shopping mall, coldly and randomly executing innocent young victims. What does not come to mind are rival drug crews shooting it out in Chicago or Detroit, or a madman murdering his entire family, which no sane person would consider a mass shooting. The GVA makes no such distinction. If four people are wounded, the GVA labels it a mass shooting regardless of the circumstances, and the media and anti-gun politicians lap up the GVA’s inflated stats.
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When I interviewed Bryant in July for our special report, I asked him if he actually believed that the average news consumer even considers domestic violence or gang warfare when they hear the term mass shooting. Bryant replied, “I don’t know. I know what we want to do is provide numbers and let the journalists, advocates and ‘congress critters’ look at the data, glean details and drill down on it.”
Unfortunately, today’s legacy journalists and anti-rights politicians are too lazy to do any drilling down. They prefer to cut and paste Bryan’s off-the-charts stats.
The bottom line: Bryant and his GVA know full well they’re supplying flawed data, which the media treats as gospel. I’m guessing Bryant and his anti-gun pals are laughing about it, too.



Fake News: CNN Reports Over 640 Mass Shootings in 2021 - The Truth About Guns

“We drill down to granularity of the street level, which is what the FBI doesn’t do,” he said.
According to their new report titled: “Active Shooter Incidents in the United States in 2020,” the FBI defines active shootings as:

• Shootings in public places
• Shootings occurring at more than one location
• Shootings where the shooter’s actions were not the result of another criminal act
• Shootings resulting in a mass killing
• Shootings indicating apparent spontaneity by the shooter
• Shootings where the shooter appeared to methodically search for potential victims
• Shootings that appeared focused on injury to people, not buildings or objects

Shootings were excluded from the FBI’s list if they were the result of:

• Self-defense
• Gang violence
• Drug violence
• Contained residential or domestic disputes
• Controlled barricade/hostage situations
• Crossfire as a byproduct of another ongoing criminal act
• An action that appeared not to have put other people in peril

By comparison, the Gun Violence Archive excludes nothing, even if the shooting is gang or drug related – the two main causes of most violence in the country today. Asked if he believed that the average news consumer even considers domestic violence or gang warfare when they hear the term mass shooting, Bryant said, “I don’t know. I know what we want to do is provide numbers and let the journalists, advocates and ‘congress critters’ look at the data, glean details and drill down on it.”
Special Report: The Gun Violence Archive And Its Scaring Of America

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Nothing 2aguy writes makes 609 mass shootings this year go away,

His frenetic, awkward, screaming denial underlines his verbose nonsense.

 

[2aguy]

Nothing 2aguy writes makes 609 mass shootings this year go away,

His frenetic, awkward, screaming denial underlines his verbose nonsense.

No lies that you and the other anti-gun extremists can make up can turn a total of 12 actual mass public shootings, by definition, into over 600....

That you have to lie about these shootings shows that the facts, truth, and reality do not support anything you believe.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You are lying, 2aguy, when you deny there have been 609 mass shootings.

You don't make the rules or the definitions. You abide them, or get outed as poseur.

 

[2aguy]

You are lying, 2aguy, when you deny there have been 609 mass shootings.

You don't make the rules or the definitions. You abide them, or get outed as poseur.

I didn't make the definition.......and you lying about the definition just shows how much a lame ass you and the other anti-gunners are....

 

[2aguy]

You are lying, 2aguy, when you deny there have been 609 mass shootings.

You don't make the rules or the definitions. You abide them, or get outed as poseur.

And an even more in depth look at how you lie....

Only incidents involving four or more shot and killed randomly during a singular event in a public place should be considered mass shootings to differentiate them from more common types of gun violence and allow the police and society to develop relevant and effective strategies tailored to specific types of incidents.

With this definition, there are usually a handful of mass shootings involving fewer than 80 murdered victims out of more than 15,000 total gun violence deaths in a given year. There were 31 mass shootings from 2017 through 2021, about six per year (Marshall Project) and four in 2022 in Buffalo, New York; Uvalde, Texas; Tulsa, Oklahoma; and Highland Park, Illinois. There were 74 mass shooting deaths among about 15,000 gun homicides in 2019 (CDC.gov and Wilson, 2021). From 1966 -2020, there were 420 mass shootings, 1449 deaths, which account for 27 deaths per year (Rockefeller Institute of Government).
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Recommendations on Addressing Public Mass Shootings

With random public mass shootings being extremely rare and over 99% of gun homicides involve more routinely occurring incidents, our police and society should differentiate different types of gun violence and implement strategies that capture their nuances and contexts.

Reducing gun violence requires differentiation of mass shootings

Current media portrayal of and public debate about gun violence are big on shock values but short on solutions. Broad definitions of mass shootings with no differentiation of types of shootings, victims, and circumstances, lumping gang violence, home invasions, armed robberies, familicides, and...

thefulcrum.us

Finally! Academic Sets Record Straight On Mass Shootings

Mass shootings aren't happening as often as some parties claim, and this effort to conflate all shootings just muddies the water.

bearingarms.com

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I didn't make the definition.......and you lying about the definition just shows how much a lame ass you and the other anti-gunners are....

The definition was not 'made' by me, and you don't get to make one. How about that?

 

[2aguy]

The definition was not 'made' by me, and you don't get to make one. How about that?

Well, dipshit...I didn't make the definition.....you dumb ass.....

12 mass public shootings last year. 12 people out of over 350 million Americans.

Meanwhile,

600 million guns in private hands

52% of American voters own guns.

Over 22 million Americans can carry a gun legally in public for self defense.

Americans use their guns, on average, 1.2 million times a year to stop rapes, robberies, murders, beatings, stabbings and even mass public shootings.......

the numbers, the facts, the truth and reality show you are an idiot.