Deem and Pass No Go

Sarah G

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'Deem and pass' out, overhaul to get direct vote - Health care reform- msnbc.com

WASHINGTON - With a showdown vote on health care legislation set for Sunday in the House, Democrats have dropped a controversial plan to indirectly approve the bill, choosing instead to hold a direct vote on the Senate’s version of the overhaul.

The Washington Post and POLITCO reported the news on Saturday afternoon, less than an hour before President Barack Obama was scheduled to meet with the House Democratic caucus.

The “deem and pass” procedure would have allowed House Democrats to avoid an up-or-down vote on the Senate bill, which many members dislike because of the bill’s carve-out provisions for individual states.
 
Well, well, well


Now you really will have no defense when all your predictions fo doom and gloom dont materialize.

Will you be happy if this bill works out great for the American people?

Will you admitt you were wrong?
 
So the House will pass the Senate Bill as is, then pass their adjustments. which will have to go to the Senate as a new Bill? What a bitch if it fails in the Senate.......
 
This means they likely have the votes.

God help this country.

Or..... they've been told it's unconstitutional and figure they can't get away with it - what with the eyes of the nation upon them. Happily, they'll have to go on the record with their votes.... and vast numbers will kiss goodbye to their jobs in November.
 
how many years will you insist it is not working after it passes even though all the evidence will deny your claims?


Will you ever admitt you are wrong about this when the evidence pours in?
 
how many years will you insist it is not working after it passes even though all the evidence will deny your claims?


Will you ever admitt you are wrong about this when the evidence pours in?

If it works and helps.. Which it wont..

Then you can throw yourself a party.

But to tell you the truth, you sound way too optimistic, and sorta blind..

Also.. *Admit.* 1 T. not 2.
 
good and bad

good they stopped their cowardly and possibly unconstitutional voting, bad, because they most likely know they have enough votes

:eusa_sick:
 
how many years will you insist it is not working after it passes even though all the evidence will deny your claims?


Will you ever admitt you are wrong about this when the evidence pours in?

Why is it that 4 Doctors have told me they will most likely retire before they planned to if this passes? I'm certain they understand this Bill more than any of us. And they will quit. I trust you have a Doctor who will see you. Because they are going to be harder to find. And you will see that almost immediately.
 
Democrats ditch plan to avoid direct vote on health care - CNN.com

Washington (CNN) -- Democratic leaders have decided to abandon the plan to avoid a direct vote on the Senate health care bill, known as deem and pass.

Instead, multiple Democratic sources told CNN that they will have three independent votes -- a vote on the rule, then a vote on the fix package, followed by a vote on the Senate bill.

Previously, Democrats did not think they could pass the fixes before the bill. But they have been assured by the Senate parliamentarian that it is possible.

The committee was expected to determine whether the House will vote Sunday on a rule that would simply deem the Senate bill -- a sweeping $875 billion reform plan that cleared the Senate in December -- passed. The House then would've proceeded to a separate vote on another $65 billion in compromise changes.

"You all in the minority continue to say what the American people think," Rep. Alcee Hastings, D-Florida, said during a particularly spirited portion of the meeting.

"You don't know what all of the American people think. And you certainly don't know what those in my constituency think."

If the Senate bill passes the House, Obama will sign it into law. If the package of changes is passed, it will be taken up by the Senate.
Freshmen House Republicans railed Saturday against the bill and the possible legislative mechanism Democrats may use to pass it.

Interesting.
 

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