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mga138
Like South Africaāmost of the great Africans in the world are WhiteāLike Elon Musk, for instance.
No white person is African.
Whites in South Africa can still work for black farmers as field hands and laborers for minimum wage. And the land in South is NOT just for Agriculture only but other forms of development including Mining, Infrastructure development, building malls n modern houses etc
If the goal is to deal with white supremacy and the roots of white supremacy, if we arenāt talking about issues related to economic class and redistribution of wealth and power, then we arenāt actually dealing with the problem.
As long as whites in SA are not examining their prejudices, then black people in SA should stay hard on them
But it's interesting that whites around the world seem to think that non-violence is great for black people but don't believe in non-violence for themselves.
But once violence goes ethnic...........it goes real primitive.
Even if (And this is a massive if) whites in SA hijacked the entire SA military there simply isn't enough firepower there to succeed against massed pitchfork assaults by the far more numerous black people.
If White S.Africans want to get violent they will lose and lose very badly
As to the rest of the world's reaction:
This could not happen overnight. To be sure, a coup-like assault on the government would be the overt headline kick-off event. But it isn't a "race war" until the races themselves decide it is. Until then it's simply politics by violent means. Just as in happened in Turkey couple of years ago..
This is about land reform and economics. In S.Africa since freedom little land reform has taken place, and the same in Botswana and Zambia. st.
As long as USAID, IMG and World Bank don't try and send in there economic hitmen everything will be all right.
Black people remain unshaken. Black people are fully aware of consequences (death, sanctions)
Black people are taking their land bk and Donald Trump, DA, Afriforum can go to hell.
I love Julius Malema and his response to Trump
When whites go into a country like South Africa and do this to black South Africans
And impose laws like this
And because of that live like this
They can't complain about the tactics black S.Africans are using to get their home bk.
mga138
Ok-so then for the 8 years when a Black supremist was the President, and a Black Supremacist was the Attorney General, then Only Black people could be racist during that period of Time?
More black people were killed by state sanctioned executions under Obama, than in the 1940's, 50's and 60's combined.
Power isnāt given, it must be taken. So knowing that we also know President Obama was āgivenā a powerful position by the most powerful white people in the U.S actually meant that he had no power at all.
That's why
Yet when Trump got in. No singing. He was signing executive orders every week
You only need to look at the disrespect Obama was treated with; Like when white female Jan Brewer (Arizona governor) wagging her finger in his face in full view of TV cameras
Yet when Vice-Prez Cheney (a white male) shot a man in the heart in a hunting accident, the man (with less power) apologized to Cheney for āā¦causing his family so much troubleā¦ā
Thatās what REAL power looks like.
No group that is smart enough to be in power is stupid enough to educate, nominate, and finance someone who wants to destroy or diminish their power.
mga138
What about the white people who, during those years also lived in a city with a Black Mayor, Black school principals, and a Black police Chief--Baltimore, for instance?
I've noticed that guys like you like to say "Black police chief" and "Black mayors" and "Black DA's"
Like that means something.
But guys like you never talk about black governors
Because there are black no governors in the USA.
When you're a governor you have real muscle.
And if you want to know about the city of Baltimore and who really runs it then remember the Freddie Gray case in 2015 ? And the Baltimore riots after ?
Fair play to state's attorney Marilyn Mosby
She came out guns blazing and wanted to the right thing but she was punished for trying to uphold the Constitution.
This proves the "I'm white & I say so" law is the law of the land and Baltimore is an example of so called "black run cities" Because the minute black politicians challenge white supremacy,we see who really runs things and what happened at the end ? The cops got off. In fact they got a round of applause at a black tie event
That's the code. You are supoosed to kill black people.
mga138
White people living during those years were THE ONLY people who can legitimately claim to be victims of racism, then, according to your principal.. No Black person can claim to have lived under a system that was racist against them during those 8 years and only Whites could have, right
So why when the Sandy Hook elementary incident happened and those white kids died. Why was Obama weeping ? Yes it was tragic
But what about the dead black youth in urban communities? Did he weep for them?
I'll wait
President Obama was great for white people. The Drone Master, Wall Street water boy. To get his attention Black people had to protest and riot in the streets and Obama squandered his moral authority when he called the Baltimore rioters āthugsā
But no suprise because President Obama was (S)elected; not elected. He was not selected to help black people because we are not his bosses because we did not finance him, nominate him or elect him because black votes do NOT decide a presidential election.
The evidence of who his bosses are was evidenced by him extending every single piece of legislation passed during the Bush-era.
But to be fair Obama and his family were a good symbol for black people. His family were the picture of grace and dignity.
Singularly, this was his only achievement, that is the dignified manner in which he and his family carried themselves thereby saliently calling into question many negative stereotypes about the so-called āBlack family.ā It was an 8 year Cosby Show. A high powered husband and wife with cute kids.
And the fact that during his two terms in office there was not one piece of personal scandal on that man. No cheating. No drinking. No drugs. No dodgy money deals. None of that.
mga138
Most crime and murder in INTRA-racial, meaning it happens between members of the same race. With that in mind, White murder rates are very low--Black murder rates are very high.
Killing black people is not counted as murder. Black people are supposed to be killed in system of white supremacy
mga138
Backing down? This is what I mean when I say that Blacks and Whites are completely incompatible. They never see anything the same way
Yes you backed down when you realized how stupid you are sounding. And let's be clear it's not that black people are not incompatible with whites.
It's more that I and most black people are not incompatible with white extremists like you.
mga138
I saidāand maintaināthat there will be a lot more Dylan Roof episodes if things donāt change.
So why don't you be the next Dylan Roof then ?
mga138
I hate Roof because while he was right to be outraged, he dishonored himself by killing innocent people.
No. You don't hate Roof.
mga138
And I said that The French Could kill them all in Haiti if they were so inclined but donāt because of their magnanimity.
And that's what they should try to do. The goal is to force white supremacists to wipe black people out and if we are not meant to be here. Then we are not not meant be here. Simple.
mga138
I then mused that Haiti would be a better place if the French had it today because they would make Haiti into a place people can visit, possibly a place to move to, a place where geniuses can be born and help the world, a place of invention rather than be a jungle full of starving dependents using Voodoo and zombie powders to enslave others, and child and animal sacrifices.
Well I don't like to repeat mysel but true to form, not a single word about the stolen wealth and constant meddling by the US and France when discussing the topic of Haiti.
Haiti was the first Black nation to liberate itself from French colonial occupation through armed resistance more than 200 years ago.
You ignore the series of blockades and embargoes soon after independence.
You ignore that neither France nor the US would recognize it as an independent state until it agreed to pay France in the amount of 150 million Francs for the loss of its enslaved properties.
You ignore that this was an amount 5 times the total revenue of Haiti in 1804.
You ignore that the debt was reduced to 90 million Frs. in 1825 and Haiti had to borrow money from French, American and German banks in order to keep up with the payments lasting for more than hundred years until the last payment was made in 1947.
You ignore that 80% of Haitiās wealth went to servicing the debt. The amount in todayās money exceeds $22 billion.
You ignore that Woodrow Wilson, sent in the Marines in 1915 to occupy Haiti to take control of its political and financial institutions.
You ignore that Control of Haitiās treasury was ceded to National City Bank of New York (Citibank of today).
You ignore that the people of Haiti continued to resist, demanding withdrawal of the US troops. Thousands paid with their lives over the course of the three decades of occupation. Topping all this was the devastating earth quake of 2010
You also ignore that Cholera, which was unknown in Haiti also broke out in the aftermath. The source of the epidemic was traced to the UN Mission. Over 10,000 died.
You ignore that the UN refused to accept responsibility until the acknowledgment came from UNSG Ban KY Moon in 2015 in the form of apology.
You ignore that he pledged 400 million but only 5% of the amount was made good.
You ignore that NGOs of all stripes descended on Haiti to āhelpā following the Earthquake. Billions were pledged by donor nations. Much of that money went to contractors, very little if any making it to the people.
You ignore that the $500 million given to the American Red Cross to build 130,000 homes for displaced Haitians. The actual number of homes built however, was a grand total of 6.
Is it any wonder then that the first Black independent nation has remained poor, much of its wealth going to France in reverse reparation ? Followed by a brutal occupation by US marines to make Haiti safe for American corporations such as Citibank ? Devastated by a natural disaster of biblical proportions ? A disaster which became a bonanza for American and other Western contractors who helped themselves to the aid money by the billions ?
The people continue to resist against all odds, Dessalinesā words-always ringing fresh in their ears-independence or death- and the struggle continues. People of African descent everywhere owe Haiti a huge debt of gratitude and need to stand with them in solidarity. Their fight is our fight.
Like South Africaāmost of the great Africans in the world are WhiteāLike Elon Musk, for instance.
No white person is African.
Whites in South Africa can still work for black farmers as field hands and laborers for minimum wage. And the land in South is NOT just for Agriculture only but other forms of development including Mining, Infrastructure development, building malls n modern houses etc
If the goal is to deal with white supremacy and the roots of white supremacy, if we arenāt talking about issues related to economic class and redistribution of wealth and power, then we arenāt actually dealing with the problem.
As long as whites in SA are not examining their prejudices, then black people in SA should stay hard on them
But it's interesting that whites around the world seem to think that non-violence is great for black people but don't believe in non-violence for themselves.
But once violence goes ethnic...........it goes real primitive.
Even if (And this is a massive if) whites in SA hijacked the entire SA military there simply isn't enough firepower there to succeed against massed pitchfork assaults by the far more numerous black people.
If White S.Africans want to get violent they will lose and lose very badly
As to the rest of the world's reaction:
This could not happen overnight. To be sure, a coup-like assault on the government would be the overt headline kick-off event. But it isn't a "race war" until the races themselves decide it is. Until then it's simply politics by violent means. Just as in happened in Turkey couple of years ago..
This is about land reform and economics. In S.Africa since freedom little land reform has taken place, and the same in Botswana and Zambia. st.
As long as USAID, IMG and World Bank don't try and send in there economic hitmen everything will be all right.
Black people remain unshaken. Black people are fully aware of consequences (death, sanctions)
Black people are taking their land bk and Donald Trump, DA, Afriforum can go to hell.
I love Julius Malema and his response to Trump
When whites go into a country like South Africa and do this to black South Africans
And impose laws like this
And because of that live like this
They can't complain about the tactics black S.Africans are using to get their home bk.
mga138
Ok-so then for the 8 years when a Black supremist was the President, and a Black Supremacist was the Attorney General, then Only Black people could be racist during that period of Time?
More black people were killed by state sanctioned executions under Obama, than in the 1940's, 50's and 60's combined.
Power isnāt given, it must be taken. So knowing that we also know President Obama was āgivenā a powerful position by the most powerful white people in the U.S actually meant that he had no power at all.
That's why
- He never disagreed with white liberal opinion.
- He did little about the war on drugs.
- He did little about the mass incarceration of black men
- He did little about racial profiling.
- He did little about police brutality
- He did little about poverty.
- He did little about unsafe neighbourhoods.
- He did little about sky high black unemployment.
- He did little about high rates of black infant mortality.
- He did little about racial segregation in housing and education.
- He did little about the growing wealth gap.
- He did little aboutor about gun control until white children were gunned down.
Yet when Trump got in. No singing. He was signing executive orders every week
You only need to look at the disrespect Obama was treated with; Like when white female Jan Brewer (Arizona governor) wagging her finger in his face in full view of TV cameras
Yet when Vice-Prez Cheney (a white male) shot a man in the heart in a hunting accident, the man (with less power) apologized to Cheney for āā¦causing his family so much troubleā¦ā
Thatās what REAL power looks like.
No group that is smart enough to be in power is stupid enough to educate, nominate, and finance someone who wants to destroy or diminish their power.
mga138
What about the white people who, during those years also lived in a city with a Black Mayor, Black school principals, and a Black police Chief--Baltimore, for instance?
I've noticed that guys like you like to say "Black police chief" and "Black mayors" and "Black DA's"
Like that means something.
But guys like you never talk about black governors
Because there are black no governors in the USA.
When you're a governor you have real muscle.
- You have serious muscle in controlling the allocation of resources in your state.
- You have serious muscle in controlling which places get invested in.
- You have serious muscle in controlling which places don't get invested in.
- You have serious muscle in controlling the laws
- You have serious muscle in controlling which companies build where.
- You have serious muscle in controlling which roads build were.
- You have serious muscle in controlling policing in this of that area.
And if you want to know about the city of Baltimore and who really runs it then remember the Freddie Gray case in 2015 ? And the Baltimore riots after ?
Fair play to state's attorney Marilyn Mosby
She came out guns blazing and wanted to the right thing but she was punished for trying to uphold the Constitution.
This proves the "I'm white & I say so" law is the law of the land and Baltimore is an example of so called "black run cities" Because the minute black politicians challenge white supremacy,we see who really runs things and what happened at the end ? The cops got off. In fact they got a round of applause at a black tie event
That's the code. You are supoosed to kill black people.
mga138
White people living during those years were THE ONLY people who can legitimately claim to be victims of racism, then, according to your principal.. No Black person can claim to have lived under a system that was racist against them during those 8 years and only Whites could have, right
So why when the Sandy Hook elementary incident happened and those white kids died. Why was Obama weeping ? Yes it was tragic
But what about the dead black youth in urban communities? Did he weep for them?
I'll wait
President Obama was great for white people. The Drone Master, Wall Street water boy. To get his attention Black people had to protest and riot in the streets and Obama squandered his moral authority when he called the Baltimore rioters āthugsā
But no suprise because President Obama was (S)elected; not elected. He was not selected to help black people because we are not his bosses because we did not finance him, nominate him or elect him because black votes do NOT decide a presidential election.
The evidence of who his bosses are was evidenced by him extending every single piece of legislation passed during the Bush-era.
But to be fair Obama and his family were a good symbol for black people. His family were the picture of grace and dignity.
Singularly, this was his only achievement, that is the dignified manner in which he and his family carried themselves thereby saliently calling into question many negative stereotypes about the so-called āBlack family.ā It was an 8 year Cosby Show. A high powered husband and wife with cute kids.
And the fact that during his two terms in office there was not one piece of personal scandal on that man. No cheating. No drinking. No drugs. No dodgy money deals. None of that.
mga138
Most crime and murder in INTRA-racial, meaning it happens between members of the same race. With that in mind, White murder rates are very low--Black murder rates are very high.
Killing black people is not counted as murder. Black people are supposed to be killed in system of white supremacy
mga138
Backing down? This is what I mean when I say that Blacks and Whites are completely incompatible. They never see anything the same way
Yes you backed down when you realized how stupid you are sounding. And let's be clear it's not that black people are not incompatible with whites.
It's more that I and most black people are not incompatible with white extremists like you.
mga138
I saidāand maintaināthat there will be a lot more Dylan Roof episodes if things donāt change.
So why don't you be the next Dylan Roof then ?
mga138
I hate Roof because while he was right to be outraged, he dishonored himself by killing innocent people.
No. You don't hate Roof.
mga138
And I said that The French Could kill them all in Haiti if they were so inclined but donāt because of their magnanimity.
And that's what they should try to do. The goal is to force white supremacists to wipe black people out and if we are not meant to be here. Then we are not not meant be here. Simple.
mga138
I then mused that Haiti would be a better place if the French had it today because they would make Haiti into a place people can visit, possibly a place to move to, a place where geniuses can be born and help the world, a place of invention rather than be a jungle full of starving dependents using Voodoo and zombie powders to enslave others, and child and animal sacrifices.
Well I don't like to repeat mysel but true to form, not a single word about the stolen wealth and constant meddling by the US and France when discussing the topic of Haiti.
Haiti was the first Black nation to liberate itself from French colonial occupation through armed resistance more than 200 years ago.
You ignore the series of blockades and embargoes soon after independence.
You ignore that neither France nor the US would recognize it as an independent state until it agreed to pay France in the amount of 150 million Francs for the loss of its enslaved properties.
You ignore that this was an amount 5 times the total revenue of Haiti in 1804.
You ignore that the debt was reduced to 90 million Frs. in 1825 and Haiti had to borrow money from French, American and German banks in order to keep up with the payments lasting for more than hundred years until the last payment was made in 1947.
You ignore that 80% of Haitiās wealth went to servicing the debt. The amount in todayās money exceeds $22 billion.
You ignore that Woodrow Wilson, sent in the Marines in 1915 to occupy Haiti to take control of its political and financial institutions.
You ignore that Control of Haitiās treasury was ceded to National City Bank of New York (Citibank of today).
You ignore that the people of Haiti continued to resist, demanding withdrawal of the US troops. Thousands paid with their lives over the course of the three decades of occupation. Topping all this was the devastating earth quake of 2010
You also ignore that Cholera, which was unknown in Haiti also broke out in the aftermath. The source of the epidemic was traced to the UN Mission. Over 10,000 died.
You ignore that the UN refused to accept responsibility until the acknowledgment came from UNSG Ban KY Moon in 2015 in the form of apology.
You ignore that he pledged 400 million but only 5% of the amount was made good.
You ignore that NGOs of all stripes descended on Haiti to āhelpā following the Earthquake. Billions were pledged by donor nations. Much of that money went to contractors, very little if any making it to the people.
You ignore that the $500 million given to the American Red Cross to build 130,000 homes for displaced Haitians. The actual number of homes built however, was a grand total of 6.
Is it any wonder then that the first Black independent nation has remained poor, much of its wealth going to France in reverse reparation ? Followed by a brutal occupation by US marines to make Haiti safe for American corporations such as Citibank ? Devastated by a natural disaster of biblical proportions ? A disaster which became a bonanza for American and other Western contractors who helped themselves to the aid money by the billions ?
The people continue to resist against all odds, Dessalinesā words-always ringing fresh in their ears-independence or death- and the struggle continues. People of African descent everywhere owe Haiti a huge debt of gratitude and need to stand with them in solidarity. Their fight is our fight.
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