Debunking Rape Epidemic Claims

[StLucieBengal]

Coyote is simply applying religious superiority of Muslims much the same as Fascists need to exert the same over others. Combine that with the liberal ability to find an excuse for bad behavior by selective and isolated worse offenders and you end up with Coyote.

So you are joining the trolls.

Trolls? I guess leftist will over use any word until the meaning is irrelevant.

 

[Andylusion]

If you google "rape jihad" - top two sites that come up are Frontpage Mag and Pamela Gellar. Not exactly reputable, to put it mildly. Hate sites, like Stormfront.

Rape is rape. But some people seem to need to make it into something more sinister.

Rape is sinister. The fact that you can't or won't acknowledge that is scary.

You are caught up into phrasing. Rape Jihad, ethnic cleansing, rape, sexual assaults, these are all despicable acts and as far as I am concerned there is no "best option"

Rape is rape. It's an expression of brutality and power over a woman by a person who considers a woman less than. There is no ethnic cleansing going on and no "rape jihad". Ethnic cleansing has a very specific term and what makes a joke out of this (not out of rape, but out of these claims) is that somehow - all these migrants, who come from dozens of different countries and backgrounds, and "united" in "rape jihad". It's like people casually using Nazi references to modern day leaders and events.

And still, there is a lack of solid emperical evidence to support this "jihad".

I would disagree.

Besides that, many of the described actions of these immigrants into Germany and other areas, is only shocking, if you don't know how it works in their home countries. It's very normal single women, in rural and tribal settings, to be simply taken and given to men. Syria even to this day has slavery of women, as a normal situation. Forced into slave labor, or prostitution, is normal in Syria, and other middle east countries.

The BBC did a documentary on this, where they interviewed existing, culturally adapted immigrants in Germany. People who have lived there for some years, and are now German citizens who learned German, and are part of German society. They themselves said, this wasn't surprising. The actions of these immigrants, closely resembled how they would act in their own country.

Part of the reason women are still treated like property, and are closely guarded by their family and tribe, isn't just because of ancient views on women (though no doubt that is part of it), it's also for their protection. You let your daughter wander outside the village, you are not likely to see her again. Some men from another village, or other province, will come by and snatch them away.

Granted the more cosmopolitan cities of Syria, that isn't the case. But immigrants are coming from all over, not just the more acceptable upscale city areas.

 

[StLucieBengal]

If you google "rape jihad" - top two sites that come up are Frontpage Mag and Pamela Gellar. Not exactly reputable, to put it mildly. Hate sites, like Stormfront.

Rape is rape. But some people seem to need to make it into something more sinister.

Rape is sinister. The fact that you can't or won't acknowledge that is scary.

You are caught up into phrasing. Rape Jihad, ethnic cleansing, rape, sexual assaults, these are all despicable acts and as far as I am concerned there is no "best option"

Rape is rape. It's an expression of brutality and power over a woman by a person who considers a woman less than. There is no ethnic cleansing going on and no "rape jihad". Ethnic cleansing has a very specific term and what makes a joke out of this (not out of rape, but out of these claims) is that somehow - all these migrants, who come from dozens of different countries and backgrounds, and "united" in "rape jihad". It's like people casually using Nazi references to modern day leaders and events.

And still, there is a lack of solid emperical evidence to support this "jihad".

I would disagree.

Besides that, many of the described actions of these immigrants into Germany and other areas, is only shocking, if you don't know how it works in their home countries. It's very normal single women, in rural and tribal settings, to be simply taken and given to men. Syria even to this day has slavery of women, as a normal situation. Forced into slave labor, or prostitution, is normal in Syria, and other middle east countries.

The BBC did a documentary on this, where they interviewed existing, culturally adapted immigrants in Germany. People who have lived there for some years, and are now German citizens who learned German, and are part of German society. They themselves said, this wasn't surprising. The actions of these immigrants, closely resembled how they would act in their own country.

Part of the reason women are still treated like property, and are closely guarded by their family and tribe, isn't just because of ancient views on women (though no doubt that is part of it), it's also for their protection. You let your daughter wander outside the village, you are not likely to see her again. Some men from another village, or other province, will come by and snatch them away.

Granted the more cosmopolitan cities of Syria, that isn't the case. But immigrants are coming from all over, not just the more acceptable upscale city areas.

Great post.

This is the exact reason why I think none of these migrants should be allowed into the west. It is too much of a burden on them to overcome.

How can they be expected to change their animalistic behavior?

A more reasonable destination for them is in other parts of their continents where this is permitted or accepted. They would have a better chance to assimilate and fit in with those countries.

Really we are setting the Muslims up for failure by accepting into the west.

 

[Coyote]

Muslims have long been a part of the west.

 

[StLucieBengal]

Muslims have long been a part of the west.

once again you are confusing the Muslims who have reformed themselves to western living and left behind the oppression and violence.... To the ones we are trying to stop from entering the west now.

Reformed Muslims have proven their women don't need to be oppressed and covered up in all that nonsense. They raise their men to be respectful and supportive for women's rights.

Don't worry we know you are a Muslim cheerleader.

 

[Tilly]

Islamic organised groping and raping:

Taharrush Gamea: has a new form of sexual harassment arrived in Europe?
Dan Hitchens

The Swedish and German authorities say they have never encountered anything like it: groups of men encircling then molesting women in large public gatherings. It happened in Cologne and Stockholm, but is it really unprecedented? Ivar Arpi argues in the new Spectator that it may well be connected to a phenomenon called ‘taharrush gamea’, a form of group harassment previously seen in Egypt.

So what is taharrush gamea, and should Western police be worried? Here’s what we know.

‘Taharrush’ means sexual harassment – it’s a relatively modern word, which political scholar As’ad Abukhalil says dates back to at least the 1950s. ‘Gamea’ just means ‘collective’. Taharrush gamea came to attention in Egypt in 2005, when female protesters against the Mubarak government were sexually assaulted by plain-clothes policemen. Many subsequent cases were political in nature, but not all: as Mariam Kirollos writes, in 2006 ‘Egyptian bloggers reported cases of group sexual assault in downtown Cairo, where large groups of men groped veiled and unveiled women, and in some cases ripped their clothes off’. There were also cases of rape.

After the revolution in 2011, the attacks became more organised. The following year, volunteer groups of men began patrolling parts of Cairo to protect women from collective assaults. These became horribly frequent: in summer 2013, in the ten days around the time President Morsi was deposed, there were 186 documented cases of mob harassment, assault and rape...

Taharrush Gamea: has a new form of sexual harassment arrived in Europe? | Coffee House

 

[StLucieBengal]

Islamic organised groping and raping:

Taharrush Gamea: has a new form of sexual harassment arrived in Europe?
Dan Hitchens

The Swedish and German authorities say they have never encountered anything like it: groups of men encircling then molesting women in large public gatherings. It happened in Cologne and Stockholm, but is it really unprecedented? Ivar Arpi argues in the new Spectator that it may well be connected to a phenomenon called ‘taharrush gamea’, a form of group harassment previously seen in Egypt.

So what is taharrush gamea, and should Western police be worried? Here’s what we know.

‘Taharrush’ means sexual harassment – it’s a relatively modern word, which political scholar As’ad Abukhalil says dates back to at least the 1950s. ‘Gamea’ just means ‘collective’. Taharrush gamea came to attention in Egypt in 2005, when female protesters against the Mubarak government were sexually assaulted by plain-clothes policemen. Many subsequent cases were political in nature, but not all: as Mariam Kirollos writes, in 2006 ‘Egyptian bloggers reported cases of group sexual assault in downtown Cairo, where large groups of men groped veiled and unveiled women, and in some cases ripped their clothes off’. There were also cases of rape.

After the revolution in 2011, the attacks became more organised. The following year, volunteer groups of men began patrolling parts of Cairo to protect women from collective assaults. These became horribly frequent: in summer 2013, in the ten days around the time President Morsi was deposed, there were 186 documented cases of mob harassment, assault and rape...

Taharrush Gamea: has a new form of sexual harassment arrived in Europe? | Coffee House

Nothing to see here .....

They are just playing a friendly game of red rover.

 

[Tilly]

Muslims have long been a part of the west.

once again you are confusing the Muslims who have reformed themselves to western living and left behind the oppression and violence.... To the ones we are trying to stop from entering the west now.

Reformed Muslims have proven their women don't need to be oppressed and covered up in all that nonsense. They raise their men to be respectful and supportive for women's rights.

Don't worry we know you are a Muslim cheerleader.

Until quite recently Muslims in the West existed in minuscule numbers. As their numbers have grown, so to have the problems. The more of them there are, the less they assimilate and the more they band together, the more they demand things be done their way, and the more they reveal their utter contempt for the women and the culture of the host nation.

 

[StLucieBengal]

Muslims have long been a part of the west.

once again you are confusing the Muslims who have reformed themselves to western living and left behind the oppression and violence.... To the ones we are trying to stop from entering the west now.

Reformed Muslims have proven their women don't need to be oppressed and covered up in all that nonsense. They raise their men to be respectful and supportive for women's rights.

Don't worry we know you are a Muslim cheerleader.

Until quite recently Muslims in the West existed in minuscule numbers. As their numbers have grown, so to have the problems. The more of them there are, the less they assimilate and the more they band together, demand things be done their way, and the more they reveal their utter contempt for women and for the host nations culture.

The west can't take on people who act like animals. There is just too big of a gap for them to come to be normal. It's a set up for failure situation.

Just like we have done with black people since the 60's.

 

[Andylusion]

If you google "rape jihad" - top two sites that come up are Frontpage Mag and Pamela Gellar. Not exactly reputable, to put it mildly. Hate sites, like Stormfront.

Rape is rape. But some people seem to need to make it into something more sinister.

Rape is sinister. The fact that you can't or won't acknowledge that is scary.

You are caught up into phrasing. Rape Jihad, ethnic cleansing, rape, sexual assaults, these are all despicable acts and as far as I am concerned there is no "best option"

Rape is rape. It's an expression of brutality and power over a woman by a person who considers a woman less than. There is no ethnic cleansing going on and no "rape jihad". Ethnic cleansing has a very specific term and what makes a joke out of this (not out of rape, but out of these claims) is that somehow - all these migrants, who come from dozens of different countries and backgrounds, and "united" in "rape jihad". It's like people casually using Nazi references to modern day leaders and events.

And still, there is a lack of solid emperical evidence to support this "jihad".

I would disagree.

Besides that, many of the described actions of these immigrants into Germany and other areas, is only shocking, if you don't know how it works in their home countries. It's very normal single women, in rural and tribal settings, to be simply taken and given to men. Syria even to this day has slavery of women, as a normal situation. Forced into slave labor, or prostitution, is normal in Syria, and other middle east countries.

The BBC did a documentary on this, where they interviewed existing, culturally adapted immigrants in Germany. People who have lived there for some years, and are now German citizens who learned German, and are part of German society. They themselves said, this wasn't surprising. The actions of these immigrants, closely resembled how they would act in their own country.

Part of the reason women are still treated like property, and are closely guarded by their family and tribe, isn't just because of ancient views on women (though no doubt that is part of it), it's also for their protection. You let your daughter wander outside the village, you are not likely to see her again. Some men from another village, or other province, will come by and snatch them away.

Granted the more cosmopolitan cities of Syria, that isn't the case. But immigrants are coming from all over, not just the more acceptable upscale city areas.

Great post.

This is the exact reason why I think none of these migrants should be allowed into the west. It is too much of a burden on them to overcome.

How can they be expected to change their animalistic behavior?

A more reasonable destination for them is in other parts of their continents where this is permitted or accepted. They would have a better chance to assimilate and fit in with those countries.

Really we are setting the Muslims up for failure by accepting into the west.

I would actually agree with that view somewhat. One thing that we could do, and should do, is require cultural adaptation. Germany doesn't play around with immigrants. You come, you must learn German. Not "stop" and "go" and "Yes I want fries with that"... you have to be fluent in German, and the German government is willing to subsidize, (not 100% but to some level), German integration classes.

I support this. I actually think that our STATE level government could encourage privately funded tax deducted, charities with subsidized English lessons, and basic American culture classes.

But beyond that, I agree with you. Culturally, Islamic people's are completely and utterly different than us. We have, no matter what the mindless left-wing anti-god people say, a Judaeo-Christian culture. People from Christian based cultures will have a much easier time adapting to our culture, and we should encourage more Christian immigration. But Islamic culture is fundamentally different, and causes all kinds of problems.

You can't shut down the entire assembly production plant, to have a dozen workers in Colorado, walk to the prayer room and face Mecca 3 times during the day. And that is an unavoidable problem.

We just had a double Saturday over-time work shift. The manager purchased Pizza for the entire crew. Unfortunately, he under-estimated the number of Islamist in the group. 10 people crowded around one Veg-Pizza, and then were disappointed when there was not enough.

This isn't going to go away. Culture matters. So on that I think we shouldn't encourage Islamic immigration. Not just to avoid problems ourselves, but also because it simply isn't good for them. Unless of course, they wish to be Christian, and adopt our culture.

 

[Mindful]

Muslims have long been a part of the west.

once again you are confusing the Muslims who have reformed themselves to western living and left behind the oppression and violence.... To the ones we are trying to stop from entering the west now.

Reformed Muslims have proven their women don't need to be oppressed and covered up in all that nonsense. They raise their men to be respectful and supportive for women's rights.

Don't worry we know you are a Muslim cheerleader.

Until quite recently Muslims in the West existed in minuscule numbers. As their numbers have grown, so to have the problems. The more of them there are, the less they assimilate and the more they band together, the more they demand things be done their way, and the more they reveal their utter contempt for the women and the culture of the host nation.

What do you think of Mayor Khan?

At least he's strengthening ties with Paris. (Despite Brexit)

And doesn't rate Jeremy Corbyn highly.

 

[saveliberty]

Coyote is simply applying religious superiority of Muslims much the same as Fascists need to exert the same over others. Combine that with the liberal ability to find an excuse for bad behavior by selective and isolated worse offenders and you end up with Coyote.

So you are joining the trolls.

Since that would be easier than accepting your own limitations and motivations, sure go with that.

Opening the door to the subject of trolls as you have, it is also a good opportunity to point out your incredible personal bias against many posters on the board. Hardly the kind of objectivity one might hope for in a mod.

 

[Mindful]

Coyote is simply applying religious superiority of Muslims much the same as Fascists need to exert the same over others. Combine that with the liberal ability to find an excuse for bad behavior by selective and isolated worse offenders and you end up with Coyote.

So you are joining the trolls.

Since that would be easier than accepting your own limitations and motivations, sure go with that.

Opening the door to the subject of trolls as you have, it is also a good opportunity to point out your incredible personal bias against many posters on the board. Hardly the kind of subjectivity one might hope for in a mod.

Did you mean objectivity?

 

[saveliberty]

Coyote is simply applying religious superiority of Muslims much the same as Fascists need to exert the same over others. Combine that with the liberal ability to find an excuse for bad behavior by selective and isolated worse offenders and you end up with Coyote.

So you are joining the trolls.

Since that would be easier than accepting your own limitations and motivations, sure go with that.

Opening the door to the subject of trolls as you have, it is also a good opportunity to point out your incredible personal bias against many posters on the board. Hardly the kind of subjectivity one might hope for in a mod.

Did you mean objectivity?

I posted before 8am, God only knows what I meant.

Thank you

 

[Coyote]

Muslims have long been a part of the west.

once again you are confusing the Muslims who have reformed themselves to western living and left behind the oppression and violence.... To the ones we are trying to stop from entering the west now.

Reformed Muslims have proven their women don't need to be oppressed and covered up in all that nonsense. They raise their men to be respectful and supportive for women's rights.

Don't worry we know you are a Muslim cheerleader.

Muslims have long been a part of the west.

once again you are confusing the Muslims who have reformed themselves to western living and left behind the oppression and violence.... To the ones we are trying to stop from entering the west now.

Reformed Muslims have proven their women don't need to be oppressed and covered up in all that nonsense. They raise their men to be respectful and supportive for women's rights.

Don't worry we know you are a Muslim cheerleader.

You are confusing religion and culture.

 

[Coyote]

If you google "rape jihad" - top two sites that come up are Frontpage Mag and Pamela Gellar. Not exactly reputable, to put it mildly. Hate sites, like Stormfront.

Rape is rape. But some people seem to need to make it into something more sinister.

Rape is sinister. The fact that you can't or won't acknowledge that is scary.

You are caught up into phrasing. Rape Jihad, ethnic cleansing, rape, sexual assaults, these are all despicable acts and as far as I am concerned there is no "best option"

Rape is rape. It's an expression of brutality and power over a woman by a person who considers a woman less than. There is no ethnic cleansing going on and no "rape jihad". Ethnic cleansing has a very specific term and what makes a joke out of this (not out of rape, but out of these claims) is that somehow - all these migrants, who come from dozens of different countries and backgrounds, and "united" in "rape jihad". It's like people casually using Nazi references to modern day leaders and events.

And still, there is a lack of solid emperical evidence to support this "jihad".

I would disagree.

Besides that, many of the described actions of these immigrants into Germany and other areas, is only shocking, if you don't know how it works in their home countries. It's very normal single women, in rural and tribal settings, to be simply taken and given to men. Syria even to this day has slavery of women, as a normal situation. Forced into slave labor, or prostitution, is normal in Syria, and other middle east countries.

The BBC did a documentary on this, where they interviewed existing, culturally adapted immigrants in Germany. People who have lived there for some years, and are now German citizens who learned German, and are part of German society. They themselves said, this wasn't surprising. The actions of these immigrants, closely resembled how they would act in their own country.

Part of the reason women are still treated like property, and are closely guarded by their family and tribe, isn't just because of ancient views on women (though no doubt that is part of it), it's also for their protection. You let your daughter wander outside the village, you are not likely to see her again. Some men from another village, or other province, will come by and snatch them away.

Granted the more cosmopolitan cities of Syria, that isn't the case. But immigrants are coming from all over, not just the more acceptable upscale city areas.

Great post.

This is the exact reason why I think none of these migrants should be allowed into the west. It is too much of a burden on them to overcome.

How can they be expected to change their animalistic behavior?

A more reasonable destination for them is in other parts of their continents where this is permitted or accepted. They would have a better chance to assimilate and fit in with those countries.

Really we are setting the Muslims up for failure by accepting into the west.

I would actually agree with that view somewhat. One thing that we could do, and should do, is require cultural adaptation. Germany doesn't play around with immigrants. You come, you must learn German. Not "stop" and "go" and "Yes I want fries with that"... you have to be fluent in German, and the German government is willing to subsidize, (not 100% but to some level), German integration classes.

I support this. I actually think that our STATE level government could encourage privately funded tax deducted, charities with subsidized English lessons, and basic American culture classes.

But beyond that, I agree with you. Culturally, Islamic people's are completely and utterly different than us. We have, no matter what the mindless left-wing anti-god people say, a Judaeo-Christian culture. People from Christian based cultures will have a much easier time adapting to our culture, and we should encourage more Christian immigration. But Islamic culture is fundamentally different, and causes all kinds of problems.

You can't shut down the entire assembly production plant, to have a dozen workers in Colorado, walk to the prayer room and face Mecca 3 times during the day. And that is an unavoidable problem.

We just had a double Saturday over-time work shift. The manager purchased Pizza for the entire crew. Unfortunately, he under-estimated the number of Islamist in the group. 10 people crowded around one Veg-Pizza, and then were disappointed when there was not enough.

This isn't going to go away. Culture matters. So on that I think we shouldn't encourage Islamic immigration. Not just to avoid problems ourselves, but also because it simply isn't good for them. Unless of course, they wish to be Christian, and adopt our culture.

Fortunately we are a nation that has its foundation on religious freedom, whether Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, or no religion at all.

What if it had been the number of vegetarians and pizza? No religion there to blame. Or Jews who follow the same dietary restrictions? Why do you refer to them as islamists, a term with a very specific meaning?

There is a concept known as "reasonable accommodation" when it comes employers and employees and religious freedom. If you look it up you will find many of the cases involve Christians, not surprisingly since they are the majority by far. It allows for an appropriate balance between religious rights and freedoms and accommodations that prove too onerous or impact safety or ones ability to do their job. It's like recognizing the difference between the hijab and burka.

Most people who come here fleeing oppressive regimes come here appreciating that very freedom, including Muslims. I've pointed out before that reputable polls of American Muslims show that their views are in line with those of other American groups on cultural issues.

 

[Coyote]

Coyote is simply applying religious superiority of Muslims much the same as Fascists need to exert the same over others. Combine that with the liberal ability to find an excuse for bad behavior by selective and isolated worse offenders and you end up with Coyote.

So you are joining the trolls.

Since that would be easier than accepting your own limitations and motivations, sure go with that.

Opening the door to the subject of trolls as you have, it is also a good opportunity to point out your incredible personal bias against many posters on the board. Hardly the kind of subjectivity one might hope for in a mod.

Did you mean objectivity?

I posted before 8am, God only knows what I meant.

Thank you

Good day.

 

[saveliberty]

Good day.

...for a cookie...

 

[Tilly]

More rape jihad, more children sexually abused and threatened:

Two 10-year-old schoolgirls molested and a woman's trousers ripped off: Inside the sleepy Swedish town rocked by EIGHT sex attacks in three weeks by migrant men

• A string of brutal sex attacks has left residents of Östersund, population 44,000, living in fear they could be next
• The small town has seen eight separate sex attacks since February 20, with the latest occurring at the weekend
• Girls as young as 10 have reported being groped and threatened, while others have fought off would-be rapists
• Police have warned women they are no longer safe walking alone at night, turning the city into an empty ghost town
• Local women spoken to by MailOnline have said they are 'terrified' and that the situation in the town is 'out of hand'

By ULF ANDERSSON IN ÖSTERSUND, SWEDEN FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 15:00, 11 March 2016 | UPDATED: 19:10, 16 March 2016

• 
  

The streets are deserted after dark in a sleepy Swedish town which is a now no-go zone for women after eight sex attacks in three weeks.

Women have been warned by police not to walk alone at night after the once peaceful town of Östersund was shaken to its core by a string of vicious attacks on females and even children by groups of young men of 'foreign origin'.

First, two 10-year-old girls were groped at a bus stop by a gang of men who threatened to rape them.

The following day, a woman told police she was punched in the face, splitting her eyebrow, by a man who threatened to kill her after he made a rude comment to her.

Just five days later a woman walking on her own was attacked by three men, beaten and pushed to the ground.

They held her down and forced their fingers into her mouth while saying offensive, sexual words to her.

And in the latest incident just five days ago, a woman had to use martial arts to elbow her would-be rapist in the head and escape after three men surrounded her and punched to the ground and tried to pull her trousers down.

Police in Östersund, with a population of 45,000, say they have never seen anything like this before.

They took the unprecedented move of calling a press conference on Monday to warn women to stay indoors.

Stephen Jerand, the county police commissioner, admitted police in the town are struggling to cope – adding that the surge in attacks ‘seem unreal’.


EXCLUSIVE: The small Swedish town terrorized by string of sex attacks

 

[saveliberty]

Fortunately we are a nation that has its foundation on religious freedom, whether Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, or no religion at all.

What if it had been the number of vegetarians and pizza? No religion there to blame. Or Jews who follow the same dietary restrictions? Why do you refer to them as islamists, a term with a very specific meaning?

There is a concept known as "reasonable accommodation" when it comes employers and employees and religious freedom. If you look it up you will find many of the cases involve Christians, not surprisingly since they are the majority by far. It allows for an appropriate balance between religious rights and freedoms and accommodations that prove too onerous or impact safety or ones ability to do their job. It's like recognizing the difference between the hijab and burka.

Most people who come here fleeing oppressive regimes come here appreciating that very freedom, including Muslims. I've pointed out before that reputable polls of American Muslims show that their views are in line with those of other American groups on cultural issues.

Thank Allah terrorists are so forthcoming about poll accuracy.