David Brooks: “I was nauseated, just nauseated.”

“All my life, I have had a certain idea of about America, that we're a flawed country, but we're fundamentally a force for good in the world, that we defeated Soviet Union, we defeated fascism, we did the Marshall Plan, we did PEPFAR to help people live in Africa. And we make mistakes, Iraq, Vietnam, but they're usually mistakes out of stupidity, naivete and arrogance.

They're not because we're ill-intentioned. What I have seen over the last six weeks is the United States behaving vilely, vilely to our friends in Canada and Mexico, vilely to our friends in Europe. And today was the bottom of the barrel, vilely to a man who is defending Western values, at great personal risk to him and his countrymen.

Donald Trump believes in one thing. He believes that might makes right. And, in that, he agrees with Vladimir Putin that they are birds of a feather. And he and Vladimir Putin together are trying to create a world that's safe for gangsters, where ruthless people can thrive. And we saw the product of that effort today in the Oval Office.

And I have — I first started thinking, is it — am I feeling grief? Am I feeling shock, like I'm in a hallucination? But I just think shame, moral shame. It's a moral injury to see the country you love behave in this way.”


It is a shameful, moral injury to see America behave this way – the consequence of the fear, ignorance, and stupidity of those who voted for Trump, who put someone so unfit to be president again in the WH, someone who defends the likes of Putin, someone for whom might makes right, someone who sides with fascist dictators seeking to make the world safe for gangsters, criminals, and fascist thugs like Trump.
Brooks nauseates me.
 
Oh please. Those supposed “allies” throw people in jail for criticizing their own government. They all need a kick in the ass to set them straight.
That's why chones likes them. They support his inner fascist.
 
“All my life, I have had a certain idea of about America, that we're a flawed country, but we're fundamentally a force for good in the world, that we defeated Soviet Union, we defeated fascism, we did the Marshall Plan, we did PEPFAR to help people live in Africa. And we make mistakes, Iraq, Vietnam, but they're usually mistakes out of stupidity, naivete and arrogance.

They're not because we're ill-intentioned. What I have seen over the last six weeks is the United States behaving vilely, vilely to our friends in Canada and Mexico, vilely to our friends in Europe. And today was the bottom of the barrel, vilely to a man who is defending Western values, at great personal risk to him and his countrymen.

Donald Trump believes in one thing. He believes that might makes right. And, in that, he agrees with Vladimir Putin that they are birds of a feather. And he and Vladimir Putin together are trying to create a world that's safe for gangsters, where ruthless people can thrive. And we saw the product of that effort today in the Oval Office.

And I have — I first started thinking, is it — am I feeling grief? Am I feeling shock, like I'm in a hallucination? But I just think shame, moral shame. It's a moral injury to see the country you love behave in this way.”


It is a shameful, moral injury to see America behave this way – the consequence of the fear, ignorance, and stupidity of those who voted for Trump, who put someone so unfit to be president again in the WH, someone who defends the likes of Putin, someone for whom might makes right, someone who sides with fascist dictators seeking to make the world safe for gangsters, criminals, and fascist thugs like Trump.
I couldnt agree more. Human qualities matter. When you elect trash this is what you get.
 
First, I thi k Zelensky kicking the can down the road, playing games with Rubio and the Treasury Secretary was really poor judgement. The mineral deal was a win/win designed to protect U.S interests and start the peace ball rolling. It was the stwrting block,.not the finish line. Second, Jd Vance spoke out of turn and made the situation worse. He may have been right, but he fed Zelenskys litigation of the deal to the media when he made his poijt to him, he should have just deferred to Trump and kept his remarks more diplomatic. His straight talk is important I just question the forum.and timing though Americans seem to like what he said (probably sick of the costs they have shouldered). Third, I imagine Putin will. announce that for the moment he doesnt believe Ukraine wants peace and he will order a surge in the weakest area of Ukraine costing more lives on both sides. Fourth, Europe is going to have to decide if they want to risk their own security by refusing to properly fund their militaries and manufacturing capacity. Fifth, China is biding their time...
The Trump people picked the setting and invited the media in.

So, it was dishonest of Vance to lecture Zelinsky about trying to litigate on television.

No, Trump wanted “great television”.
 
I was on the NYT forum on Brook's thread; he was a very sensible chap back then(circa 2001) but keeping his job THERE was more important than getting reality right. Last I sw he was blaming Trump for Biden's FAILURES!!! Bloody mad!

Greg

Yes .
You can safely say that everybody having anything to do with NYT published material is under control -- whether it be direct or indirect.

That is the deal whether an individual realises it or not .
And it applies to any and every Legacy Media organisation .
Otherwise you do not have a Deep State that works
The Trump people picked the setting and invited the media in.

So, it was dishonest of Vance to lecture Zelinsky about trying to litigate on television.

No, Trump wanted “great television”.
You have a bunch of Politicians on stage and then a Clown like you criticises one or more of them for dishonesty .
Politicians are not there to be honest .

And if you watched expecting a miracle you want your head testing .
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“All my life, I have had a certain idea of about America, that we're a flawed country, but we're fundamentally a force for good in the world, that we defeated Soviet Union, we defeated fascism, we did the Marshall Plan, we did PEPFAR to help people live in Africa. And we make mistakes, Iraq, Vietnam, but they're usually mistakes out of stupidity, naivete and arrogance.

They're not because we're ill-intentioned. What I have seen over the last six weeks is the United States behaving vilely, vilely to our friends in Canada and Mexico, vilely to our friends in Europe. And today was the bottom of the barrel, vilely to a man who is defending Western values, at great personal risk to him and his countrymen.

Donald Trump believes in one thing. He believes that might makes right. And, in that, he agrees with Vladimir Putin that they are birds of a feather. And he and Vladimir Putin together are trying to create a world that's safe for gangsters, where ruthless people can thrive. And we saw the product of that effort today in the Oval Office.

And I have — I first started thinking, is it — am I feeling grief? Am I feeling shock, like I'm in a hallucination? But I just think shame, moral shame. It's a moral injury to see the country you love behave in this way.”


It is a shameful, moral injury to see America behave this way – the consequence of the fear, ignorance, and stupidity of those who voted for Trump, who put someone so unfit to be president again in the WH, someone who defends the likes of Putin, someone for whom might makes right, someone who sides with fascist dictators seeking to make the world safe for gangsters, criminals, and fascist thugs like Trump.
You guys just can't seem to comprehend that no matter how much the US and other countries "helped" Ukraine, they continually lost territory day after day after day. After a few more years of that, there wouldn't be anything left of Ukraine. The status quo was Ukraine losing territory. Obviously what the world had been doing wasn't working. Continuing to do the same thing would be stupid.
 
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“All my life, I have had a certain idea of about America, that we're a flawed country, but we're fundamentally a force for good in the world, that we defeated Soviet Union, we defeated fascism, we did the Marshall Plan, we did PEPFAR to help people live in Africa. And we make mistakes, Iraq, Vietnam, but they're usually mistakes out of stupidity, naivete and arrogance.

They're not because we're ill-intentioned. What I have seen over the last six weeks is the United States behaving vilely, vilely to our friends in Canada and Mexico, vilely to our friends in Europe. And today was the bottom of the barrel, vilely to a man who is defending Western values, at great personal risk to him and his countrymen.

Donald Trump believes in one thing. He believes that might makes right. And, in that, he agrees with Vladimir Putin that they are birds of a feather. And he and Vladimir Putin together are trying to create a world that's safe for gangsters, where ruthless people can thrive. And we saw the product of that effort today in the Oval Office.

And I have — I first started thinking, is it — am I feeling grief? Am I feeling shock, like I'm in a hallucination? But I just think shame, moral shame. It's a moral injury to see the country you love behave in this way.”


It is a shameful, moral injury to see America behave this way – the consequence of the fear, ignorance, and stupidity of those who voted for Trump, who put someone so unfit to be president again in the WH, someone who defends the likes of Putin, someone for whom might makes right, someone who sides with fascist dictators seeking to make the world safe for gangsters, criminals, and fascist thugs like Trump.
You're still not over Putin telling Obama to go screw himself. You loons loved him up till he did that.
 
“All my life, I have had a certain idea of about America, that we're a flawed country, but we're fundamentally a force for good in the world, that we defeated Soviet Union, we defeated fascism, we did the Marshall Plan, we did PEPFAR to help people live in Africa. And we make mistakes, Iraq, Vietnam, but they're usually mistakes out of stupidity, naivete and arrogance.

They're not because we're ill-intentioned. What I have seen over the last six weeks is the United States behaving vilely, vilely to our friends in Canada and Mexico, vilely to our friends in Europe. And today was the bottom of the barrel, vilely to a man who is defending Western values, at great personal risk to him and his countrymen.

Donald Trump believes in one thing. He believes that might makes right. And, in that, he agrees with Vladimir Putin that they are birds of a feather. And he and Vladimir Putin together are trying to create a world that's safe for gangsters, where ruthless people can thrive. And we saw the product of that effort today in the Oval Office.

And I have — I first started thinking, is it — am I feeling grief? Am I feeling shock, like I'm in a hallucination? But I just think shame, moral shame. It's a moral injury to see the country you love behave in this way.”


It is a shameful, moral injury to see America behave this way – the consequence of the fear, ignorance, and stupidity of those who voted for Trump, who put someone so unfit to be president again in the WH, someone who defends the likes of Putin, someone for whom might makes right, someone who sides with fascist dictators seeking to make the world safe for gangsters, criminals, and fascist thugs like Trump.

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Unfortunately Trump's disgrace reflects on all of US. I am right there with you , trump is a disgusting person that belongs in prison . Putin deserves the same fate for his war crimes against the Ukraine.
Lol, Biden sexually molested his daughter. Nothing compares how that disgraced us.
 
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