Darrel Issa: Emails "don't just disappear... unless that was the intention."

[Siete]

You're the one demonstrating complete stupidity.
It is impossible for the emails to go missing without someone orchestrating it. It doesnt just happen by accident in the government system. That was Issa's point. And all those suffering from Issa Derangement Syndrome just ignore his very factual statement and revert to calling him a liar because they have no idea.

That is not a factual statement.

You have no idea what has happened to any emails. You have speculation fueled by partisanship. You have already made up your mind. This is why we need a judicial system.

For the emails to go missing, the computer the emails were made from would need to have deleted it from it's hd, including it's automatic backup of anything that's been deleted. The server that hosted the net that the emails were sent on would have to delete it's copies of the emails, it's automatic backup of deleted files also deleted and it's backup would also need to be deleted. And the hard copies would have to be shredded or burned. All of that to happen would take a conspiracy or a worm.

or Issa lied.... conspiracy born and Issa is a worm

 

[The Rabbi]

That is not a factual statement.

You have no idea what has happened to any emails. You have speculation fueled by partisanship. You have already made up your mind. This is why we need a judicial system.

For the emails to go missing, the computer the emails were made from would need to have deleted it from it's hd, including it's automatic backup of anything that's been deleted. The server that hosted the net that the emails were sent on would have to delete it's copies of the emails, it's automatic backup of deleted files also deleted and it's backup would also need to be deleted. And the hard copies would have to be shredded or burned. All of that to happen would take a conspiracy or a worm.

or Issa lied.... conspiracy born and Issa is a worm

You're such a blithering moron. You contribute nothing.

 

[Siete]

For the emails to go missing, the computer the emails were made from would need to have deleted it from it's hd, including it's automatic backup of anything that's been deleted. The server that hosted the net that the emails were sent on would have to delete it's copies of the emails, it's automatic backup of deleted files also deleted and it's backup would also need to be deleted. And the hard copies would have to be shredded or burned. All of that to happen would take a conspiracy or a worm.

or Issa lied.... conspiracy born and Issa is a worm

You're such a blithering moron. You contribute nothing.

Issa was been debunked by Elijah Cummings for lying ... contribute that !

 

[Katzndogz]

The e mails exist on every server and computer that received those emails.

 

[deltex1]

I repeat....now we know where the smidgens went.

Bump

 

[Little-Acorn]

This isn't being reported anywhere in the mainstream media, except on Fox News and internet outlets like Brietbart.

I just checked, and there are NO stories about missing emails on CNN, CBS, NBC, or ABC websites.

If you were wondering how Democrats thought they could possibly get away with such blatant destruction of evidence and excuses about it.... now you know.

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Darrell Issa: Records Like Lois Lerner's Emails 'Don't Just Disappear... Unless That Was the Intention'

Darrell Issa: Records Like Lois Lerner's Emails 'Don't Just Disappear... Unless That Was the Intention'

by Dan Riehl
18 Jun 2014

Amid new reports claiming that Louis Lerner's emails sought by Congress pursuant to claims the IRS targeted Tea Party groups are lost forever, House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa issued a blistering statement alleging that such federal records can only disappear like this through deliberate destruction.
____________________________

If the IRS truly got rid of evidence in a way that violated the Federal Records Act and ensured the FBI never got a crack at recovering files from an official claiming a Fifth amendment protection against self-incrimination, this is proof their whole line about "losing" e-mails in the targeting scandal was just one more attempted deception.

Old and useless binders of information are still stored and maintained on federal agency shelves. Official records, like the e-mails of a prominent official, don't just disappear without a trace, unless that was the intention.
____________________________

 

[The Rabbi]

or Issa lied.... conspiracy born and Issa is a worm

You're such a blithering moron. You contribute nothing.

Issa was been debunked by Elijah Cummings for lying ... contribute that !

Elijah Cummings' office conspired with the IRS to suppress TrueTheVote. He is an actor in the scandal.
Looks like you got pwned again, dumbshit.

 

[Siete]

This isn't being reported anywhere in the mainstream media, except on Fox News and internet outlets like Brietbart.

I just checked, and there are NO stories about missing emails on CNN, CBS, NBC, or ABC websites.

If you were wondering how Democrats thought they could possibly get away with such blatant destruction of evidence and excuses about it.... now you know.

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Darrell Issa: Records Like Lois Lerner's Emails 'Don't Just Disappear... Unless That Was the Intention'

Darrell Issa: Records Like Lois Lerner's Emails 'Don't Just Disappear... Unless That Was the Intention'

by Dan Riehl
18 Jun 2014

Amid new reports claiming that Louis Lerner's emails sought by Congress pursuant to claims the IRS targeted Tea Party groups are lost forever, House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa issued a blistering statement alleging that such federal records can only disappear like this through deliberate destruction.
____________________________

If the IRS truly got rid of evidence in a way that violated the Federal Records Act and ensured the FBI never got a crack at recovering files from an official claiming a Fifth amendment protection against self-incrimination, this is proof their whole line about "losing" e-mails in the targeting scandal was just one more attempted deception.

Old and useless binders of information are still stored and maintained on federal agency shelves. Official records, like the e-mails of a prominent official, don't just disappear without a trace, unless that was the intention.
____________________________

could be because Issa's IRS conspiracy was debunked


http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/irs-scandal-issas-case-crumbles-after-rel

 

[The Rabbi]

This isn't being reported anywhere in the mainstream media, except on Fox News and internet outlets like Brietbart.

I just checked, and there are NO stories about missing emails on CNN, CBS, NBC, or ABC websites.

If you were wondering how Democrats thought they could possibly get away with such blatant destruction of evidence and excuses about it.... now you know.

--------------------------------

Darrell Issa: Records Like Lois Lerner's Emails 'Don't Just Disappear... Unless That Was the Intention'

Darrell Issa: Records Like Lois Lerner's Emails 'Don't Just Disappear... Unless That Was the Intention'

by Dan Riehl
18 Jun 2014

Amid new reports claiming that Louis Lerner's emails sought by Congress pursuant to claims the IRS targeted Tea Party groups are lost forever, House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa issued a blistering statement alleging that such federal records can only disappear like this through deliberate destruction.
____________________________

If the IRS truly got rid of evidence in a way that violated the Federal Records Act and ensured the FBI never got a crack at recovering files from an official claiming a Fifth amendment protection against self-incrimination, this is proof their whole line about "losing" e-mails in the targeting scandal was just one more attempted deception.

Old and useless binders of information are still stored and maintained on federal agency shelves. Official records, like the e-mails of a prominent official, don't just disappear without a trace, unless that was the intention.
____________________________

could be because Issa's IRS conspiracy was debunked

The only thing debunked is the notion you have something to contribute here.

 

[The T]

This isn't being reported anywhere in the mainstream media, except on Fox News and internet outlets like Brietbart.

I just checked, and there are NO stories about missing emails on CNN, CBS, NBC, or ABC websites.

If you were wondering how Democrats thought they could possibly get away with such blatant destruction of evidence and excuses about it.... now you know.

--------------------------------

Darrell Issa: Records Like Lois Lerner's Emails 'Don't Just Disappear... Unless That Was the Intention'

Darrell Issa: Records Like Lois Lerner's Emails 'Don't Just Disappear... Unless That Was the Intention'

by Dan Riehl
18 Jun 2014

Amid new reports claiming that Louis Lerner's emails sought by Congress pursuant to claims the IRS targeted Tea Party groups are lost forever, House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa issued a blistering statement alleging that such federal records can only disappear like this through deliberate destruction.
____________________________

If the IRS truly got rid of evidence in a way that violated the Federal Records Act and ensured the FBI never got a crack at recovering files from an official claiming a Fifth amendment protection against self-incrimination, this is proof their whole line about "losing" e-mails in the targeting scandal was just one more attempted deception.

Old and useless binders of information are still stored and maintained on federal agency shelves. Official records, like the e-mails of a prominent official, don't just disappear without a trace, unless that was the intention.
____________________________

could be because Issa's IRS conspiracy was debunked


IRS 'scandal': Issa's case crumbles after release of transcripts | MSNBC

Just defend criminals and the party at any cost, right?

 

[Siete]

This isn't being reported anywhere in the mainstream media, except on Fox News and internet outlets like Brietbart.

I just checked, and there are NO stories about missing emails on CNN, CBS, NBC, or ABC websites.

If you were wondering how Democrats thought they could possibly get away with such blatant destruction of evidence and excuses about it.... now you know.

--------------------------------

Darrell Issa: Records Like Lois Lerner's Emails 'Don't Just Disappear... Unless That Was the Intention'

Darrell Issa: Records Like Lois Lerner's Emails 'Don't Just Disappear... Unless That Was the Intention'

by Dan Riehl
18 Jun 2014

Amid new reports claiming that Louis Lerner's emails sought by Congress pursuant to claims the IRS targeted Tea Party groups are lost forever, House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa issued a blistering statement alleging that such federal records can only disappear like this through deliberate destruction.
____________________________

If the IRS truly got rid of evidence in a way that violated the Federal Records Act and ensured the FBI never got a crack at recovering files from an official claiming a Fifth amendment protection against self-incrimination, this is proof their whole line about "losing" e-mails in the targeting scandal was just one more attempted deception.

Old and useless binders of information are still stored and maintained on federal agency shelves. Official records, like the e-mails of a prominent official, don't just disappear without a trace, unless that was the intention.
____________________________

could be because Issa's IRS conspiracy was debunked


IRS 'scandal': Issa's case crumbles after release of transcripts | MSNBC

Just defend criminals and the party at any cost, right?

personally I don't care either way ... send criminals to jail if they're criminals. Pretty simple.

 

[Siete]

This isn't being reported anywhere in the mainstream media, except on Fox News and internet outlets like Brietbart.

I just checked, and there are NO stories about missing emails on CNN, CBS, NBC, or ABC websites.

If you were wondering how Democrats thought they could possibly get away with such blatant destruction of evidence and excuses about it.... now you know.

--------------------------------

Darrell Issa: Records Like Lois Lerner's Emails 'Don't Just Disappear... Unless That Was the Intention'

Darrell Issa: Records Like Lois Lerner's Emails 'Don't Just Disappear... Unless That Was the Intention'

by Dan Riehl
18 Jun 2014

Amid new reports claiming that Louis Lerner's emails sought by Congress pursuant to claims the IRS targeted Tea Party groups are lost forever, House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa issued a blistering statement alleging that such federal records can only disappear like this through deliberate destruction.
____________________________

If the IRS truly got rid of evidence in a way that violated the Federal Records Act and ensured the FBI never got a crack at recovering files from an official claiming a Fifth amendment protection against self-incrimination, this is proof their whole line about "losing" e-mails in the targeting scandal was just one more attempted deception.

Old and useless binders of information are still stored and maintained on federal agency shelves. Official records, like the e-mails of a prominent official, don't just disappear without a trace, unless that was the intention.
____________________________

could be because Issa's IRS conspiracy was debunked

The only thing debunked is the notion you have something to contribute here.

thank you for your profound contribution.

 

[The T]

You're such a blithering moron. You contribute nothing.

Issa was been debunked by Elijah Cummings for lying ... contribute that !

Elijah Cummings' office conspired with the IRS to suppress TrueTheVote. He is an actor in the scandal.
Looks like you got pwned again, dumbshit.

Yes he is...and Cummings has been strangely silent...wonder why?

He is one of Lerner's biggest defenders and had gotten his staff to send inquiries as to prosecuting "TrueThe Vote"

Who could forget this rant?

 

[The T]

could be because Issa's IRS conspiracy was debunked


IRS 'scandal': Issa's case crumbles after release of transcripts | MSNBC

Just defend criminals and the party at any cost, right?

personally I don't care either way ... send criminals to jail if they're criminals. Pretty simple.

However YOU are dismissing this and citing PMSNBC editorials...as IF that's proof? Really?

Get a fucking grip.

 

[mamooth]

We know exactly what happened to the emails, because the IRS told us. I keep posting this, and the righties keep ignoring it.

Here?s how the IRS lost emails from key witness Lois Lerner - The Washington Post

I know that, no matter how many times I post it, the righties won't actually read it. I'm used to how gutless they are, how proudly dishonest, and the way they'll refuse to look at anything that isn't cult-approved. However, normal, ethical people can read it and understand what happened. Which is

-- Crappy email server with limited storage space.
-- Tape backups were kept for 6 months, then overwritten with a new backup
-- The required-by-law archive of each individual's emails were kept on each local machine
-- The hard drive crash thus kills that backup, and thus destroys all emails older than 6 months.

(Yes, it was bad IT practice. Nobody is arguing otherwise.)

Sadly, the truth will have no effect on the ODS kooks. It never does. I can lead ODS kooks to knowledge, but it's not possible to get them to renounce the sacred scriptures of their cult.

 

[Siete]

Just defend criminals and the party at any cost, right?

personally I don't care either way ... send criminals to jail if they're criminals. Pretty simple.

However YOU are dismissing this and citing PMSNBC editorials...as IF that's proof? Really?

Get a fucking grip.

you clearly stated MSNBS wasn;t reporting the story and I said it COULD be (as in why) and provided the link


you get a grip.

and ..

New IRS emails released by the House Oversight Committee show staff working for Democratic Ranking Member Elijah Cummings communicated with the IRS multiple times between 2012 and 2013 about voter fraud prevention group True the Vote. True the Vote was targeted by the IRS after applying for tax exempt status more than two years ago. Further, information shows the IRS and Cummings' staff asked for nearly identical information from True the Vote President Catherine Engelbrecht about her organization, indicating coordination and improper sharing of confidential taxpayer information.

Chairman of the House Oversight Committee Darrell Issa, along with five Subcommittee Chairmen are demanding Cummings provide an explanation for the staff inquiries to the IRS about True the Vote and for his denial that his staff ever contacted the IRS about the group.


soooooooooooo ...

 

[Little-Acorn]

-- Crappy email server with limited storage space.
-- Tape backups were kept for 6 months, then overwritten with a new backup
-- The required-by-law archive of each individual's emails were kept on each local machine
-- The hard drive crash thus kills that backup, and thus destroys all emails older than 6 months.

The only problem is, it didn't happen that way.

If it had, the Democrats would have told Congress that they couldn't comply with the subpoena shortly after it was issued, instead of waiting months (time they needed to delete the emails and scrub all possible recipients' computers, servers and backups).

And there wouldn't be six other suspects whose subpoenaed emails from the same period mysteriously vanished. Democrats still haven't explained how Lois Lerner's own computer crashing, deleted the emails of six other people who never used her computer.

The excuse is clearly a lie - obvious to all normal people. The only ones who claim to believe it, are the ones who told the lie in the first place, plus a few of the more rabid Obama sycophants on various internet forums.

Since the story that Lois Lerner's hard disk crash deleted six different people's emails, is obviously a lie, it has become clear that the Democrats deliberately chose to be punished for deliberate destruction of evidence and violating the law on keeping backups, rather than be punished for whatever was in the emails they deleted.

What was in those emails between Lerner et. al. and outside agencies such as the White House, that was so much worse for the Democrats than the crimes of destroying evidence and refusing to obey subpoenas?

 

[The Rabbi]

We know exactly what happened to the emails, because the IRS told us. I keep posting this, and the righties keep ignoring it.

Here?s how the IRS lost emails from key witness Lois Lerner - The Washington Post

I know that, no matter how many times I post it, the righties won't actually read it. I'm used to how gutless they are, how proudly dishonest, and the way they'll refuse to look at anything that isn't cult-approved. However, normal, ethical people can read it and understand what happened. Which is

-- Crappy email server with limited storage space.
-- Tape backups were kept for 6 months, then overwritten with a new backup
-- The required-by-law archive of each individual's emails were kept on each local machine
-- The hard drive crash thus kills that backup, and thus destroys all emails older than 6 months.

(Yes, it was bad IT practice. Nobody is arguing otherwise.)

Sadly, the truth will have no effect on the ODS kooks. It never does. I can lead ODS kooks to knowledge, but it's not possible to get them to renounce the sacred scriptures of their cult.

You're kidding,r ight? This is the IRS, not some third rate local agency. That account barely passes the laugh test.
Additionally, the IRS knew they didnt hae the emails in February. They sent notices to Justice and the WH but somehow didnt manage to get around to telling Congress until last week. What's that all about? And the only reason they did tell Congress was because a bipartisan committee asked the IRS point blank if they had turned over everything and the answer, under oath, came out.

 

[1776]

The liberal media is trying hard to cover this up.

The next POTUS should send the FBI after Obama's ass.

 

[Little-Acorn]

The liberal media is trying hard to cover this up.

As I said, the last time I checked (yesterday) there were no stories at all about hese missing emails or the Democrats' excuses, in any of the major networks' websites, except Fox News.