D.C. Homeless Encampments Get Bulldozed

[Hollie]

Now that you’re dancing around and dodging my question, we can conclude that you fell for the fake news story in the OP, and you know it, too!

We can conclude that your claims are fraudulent. Poor, angry Timmy tampon. You can't refute anything posted so you're reduced to conspiracy theories.

 

[alang1216]

Congress controls the purse. Nor does that do anything to address the homeless problem for the mentally ill who are homeless. Try harder.

My bad, I thought the Big Beautiful Bill was Trump's baby. Medicaid can assist cities with the housing of the mentally ill.

 

[Concerned American]

True enough but here in the Capital of the Confederacy, Trump lost twice.

There is no confederacy, haven't you gotten the 160 year old news. Wow, I thought Juneteenth was bad.

 

[WEATHER53]

I think a society that does not take care of the truly helpless amidst it is a very poor society without compassion and not in obedience to JudeoChristian directives. That includes the children, born and unborn, those in serious need and unable to provide for themselves, and those physically or mentally compromised that makes it impossible for them to have the ability or know how to provide for themselves.

But those who demand that it be government that provides for the helpless are not at compassionate. They just want the responsibility removed from themselves.

There can be a valid role for government. Encouragement of private charities with strict controls on how they manage contributions to ensure they are actually helping people should be the rule. I can accept that government can work hand in hand with good charities like the Salvation Army that provides life giving services to millions. By helping the Salvation Army do that, the government doesn't need to waste millions of taxpayer dollars to fund and maintain infrastructure or staff or other overhead, i.e. create another bureaucracy that eats up most of the funds that could be helping people.

And those who demand government laws and policies that encourage people to be dependent who otherwise would not be dependent also follow neither JudeoChristian directives nor are compassionate. They do a huge disserve to their fellow human beings. The GOP initiatives to require the able bodied who receive government assistance to contribute to that in some way are doing a huge kindness to those recipients.

And you are correct. The homeless or anybody else should not be allowed to increase health hazards or crime or reduce property values or quality of life for anybody.

I would say the responsibility is to not become helpless or seek an effective way out instead of you selling sympathy, guilt and excuse
Tent central is not a reflection of nor responsibility of society as to cause nor solution
This is how you saps have spread poison” “feel good” feelings first all over America

 

[Foxfyre]

I would say the responsibility is to not become helpless or seek an effective way out instead of you selling sympathy, guilt and excuse
Tent central is not a reflection of nor responsibility of society as to cause nor solution
This is how you saps have spread poison” “feel good” feelings first all over America

Hmm. You never called me a 'sap' before. What did I post to deserve that?

It is the responsibility of the unborn, infants and toddlers to not become dependent?

It is the responsibility of the physically or mentally incapacitated to not become dependent?

Do you honestly believe that?

 

[Concerned American]

Hmm. You never called me a 'sap' before. What did I post to deserve that?

It is the responsibility of the unborn, infants and toddlers to not become dependent?

It is the responsibility of the physically or mentally incapacitated to not become dependent?

Do you honestly believe that?

It is not the responsibility of the government. Private sector charities have always been the way these issues have been addressed and it is TRULY the only reflection of the nation's charity. If all of these people who are clamoring for aiding the homeless and downtrodden are sincere, they would be donating and not begging the government and an unwilling population to force a redistribution of wealth.

 

[WEATHER53]

Hmm. You never called me a 'sap' before. What did I post to deserve that?

It is the responsibility of the unborn, infants and toddlers to not become dependent?

It is the responsibility of the physically or mentally incapacitated to not become dependent?

Do you honestly believe that?

Because most with homelessness problems are drug and alcohol related which is self induced. Rarely are they just plain seeing pink elephants crazy and can’t take care of themselves. I retract the sap as you usually are right on point but not this time

 

[scruffy]

Check this out: you could house every single homeless person in the US for an entire year, for LESS money than Newsom wasted on that idiotic train.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

They didn't choose to get their "homes" bulldozed.

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I volunteered for a program that gave homeless women great housing for as long as two years. Most of the rooms were private, all meals were provided, physical and mental health care were provided and the only hard-and-fast requirements, once accepted into the program, were no substance abuse and no physical abuse of other residents.

You'd drop your jaw to the floor to see how many women could not handle those two rules and voluntarily chose to leave the program.

It will take involuntary commitment to clean up such cases.

I say it's time to stop effing around and bulldoze them, after giving them the option to accept treatment.

No other answer.

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I’ve seen it also. It will take decisions made with facts not feelings. Leftist feelings have done more harm than good but that’s always the case.

 

[Foxfyre]

Because most with homelessness problems are drug and alcohol related which is self induced. Rarely are they just plain seeing pink elephants crazy and can’t take care of themselves. I retract the sap as you usually are right on point but not this time

There is nobody, and I mean NOBODY with a drug or alcohol problem who intended to have one or expected to have one. And not all homeless with mental problems are addicted. Most data I've seen comes up with about 1/3 of the homeless are addicted to something.

Having had formal training to deal with the addicted and their families, I no doubt have less prejudice and more compassion with those afflicted. Do they HAVE to commit a serious crime before being committed? As for the otherwise mentally ill, I also have considerable compassion. It just isn't in me to send people off to die when they have lost control over their minds and bodies.

 

[BackAgain]

What do you think a federal district is?

Ms.Fit has no actual general knowledge of

So we should think about a possible solution before we try it? Brilliant, no one could have come up with that.

Well, clearly I convinced you since you didn’t seem to grasp it prior to being educated by me. . You’re welcome.

Is that what Trump did?

It sure seems so. Except to tiny little minds on the left.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Trump has done nothing to solve the problem. Those people still exist. They will go somewhere.

Like what happened in San Francisco clearing out the homeless for the Communist Chinese leaders visit. That's different right, because Trump.

SF ‘Cleaned Up’ Streets Ahead of APEC. How Did It Do It?

Residents have noticed a change, but what steps did the city take?

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[Foxfyre]

It is not the responsibility of the government. Private sector charities have always been the way these issues have been addressed and it is TRULY the only reflection of the nation's charity. If all of these people who are clamoring for aiding the homeless and downtrodden are sincere, they would be donating and not begging the government and an unwilling population to force a redistribution of wealth.

You must not have read all my original post either.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

There is nobody, and I mean NOBODY with a drug or alcohol problem who intended to have one or expected to have one. And not all homeless with mental problems are addicted. Most data I've seen comes up with about 1/3 of the homeless are addicted to something.

Having had formal training to deal with the addicted and their families, I no doubt have less prejudice and more compassion with those afflicted. Do they HAVE to commit a serious crime before being committed? As for the otherwise mentally ill, I also have considerable compassion. It just isn't in me to send people off to die when they have lost control over their minds and bodies.

90% drug addicts 10% mentally ill.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The mental illness saga is a lot like the “he’s insane” when someone murders

Like that's an excuse.

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I volunteered for a program that gave homeless women great housing for as long as two years. Most of the rooms were private, all meals were provided, physical and mental health care were provided and the only hard-and-fast requirements, once accepted into the program, were no substance abuse and no physical abuse of other residents.

You'd drop your jaw to the floor to see how many women could not handle those two rules and voluntarily chose to leave the program.

It will take involuntary commitment to clean up such cases.

I say it's time to stop effing around and bulldoze them, after giving them the option to accept treatment.

No other answer.

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I once gave a seminar to single teen mothers on getting child support from the fathers. If they knew who the father was. There were probably 30 girls there from 12 to 17.

Not a single girl thought the father should pay anything. The government should pay and give them housing, food, a car and a clothing allowance. They felt it was unfair to the men to blame them for the pregnancy.

 

[Foxfyre]

90% drug addicts 10% mentally ill.

Not according to those who have researched it. Only about 1/3rd of the homeless are addicted to something.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Not according to those who have researched it. Only about 1/3rd of the homeless are addicted to something.

I’m sure the .orgs are not biased.

 

[Foxfyre]

I’m sure the .orgs are not biased.

Bias can go both ways.

Now look. I'm 100% MAGA and on President Trump and the GOP and the Administration's side in dealing with almost all of these things.

But knowing some very good people who found themselves homeless through no fault of their own, I'm just not willing to designate them as scum of the Earth or scum of any kind. They need/needed help. I'm glad they were able to get it.

The mentally ill and hopelessly addicted, however, are not capable of helping themselves. It's like a swimmer being caught in an unexpected riptide. Okay he should have heeded the warnings and not gone into the water. But are we going to force him to drown because he made a foolish choice?

 

[alang1216]

It sure seems so. Except to tiny little minds on the left.

So Trump has thought it all through? That is a relief. What will happen to the homeless?

 

[Concerned American]

You must not have read all my original post either.

No, I hadn't. My apologies. I have read the entire thread now.