Cuomo is Just the Beginning of Governors Who Are Violating the First Amendment of Our Constitution

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Governors can not make you wear a face mask, prevent people from assembling in peaceful groups as well as how many people can be in your house. If you lived in a Communist Country, you would not have these freedoms.
I hope someone or groups will sue these idiots in Federal Court and go on to the Supreme Court.
Aside from the blatant unconstitutionality of these policies, there is also the fact that as far as I know, not one state in our nation has a dictatorial form of government. As far as I know, all of the states have republican (small “r”, nothing to do with the political party by that name) forms of government, patterned after the federal government, and many (perhaps most or all) hybridize that with a democratic (also small “d”, nothing to do with the political party going by that name, either) forms.

I do not think that there is any state in which the Governor, nor any other single individual, has the legitimate authority to unilaterally make law. Under the republican form, the Governor can only sign into law bills that have been passed to him from the state's legislature, and under the democratic form, the Governor has no role at all in the process of making a law.

So, these polices are invalid on two points, in blatantly violating the First Amendment rights to freedom of religion and assembly; and in not having been enacted into law by any legitimate process for doing so.
Much like our federal executive, our president.... governors have Emergency Powers, to act on their own under certain emergencies, is my understanding???
 

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Much like our federal executive, our president.... governors have Emergency Powers, to act on their own under certain emergencies, is my understanding???
Where, in the national Constitution, or in any of the state Constitutions, is this allowed? (Hint: Nowhere.)

And even if such a power were legitimate, when the “emergency” is now dragging on for almost a year, surely by now, there should be some legitimate legislative action, and not just an illegitimate order from a dictator. There's even been enough time, now, that if they wanted to go that route, they could have put this in the form of a ballot initiative and allowed the people to vote on it directly.

Not that any of this would legitimize these policies, which, no matter how they are implemented, still are irreconcilable with the explicit letter of the First Amendment which prohibits such restrictions on freedom of assembly and freedom of religion.
 

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And even if such a power were legitimate, when the “emergency” is now dragging on for almost a year, surely by now, there should be some legitimate legislative action, and not just an illegitimate order from a dictator.
I agree with this part of your post! For both federal and State executive Emergency Power there should be designed and deliberate, measured legislative checks and cut off dates.
 

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The scariest part of this is that Liberals see a D next to Cuomo's name and don't read the articles.
 

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Governors can not make you wear a face mask, prevent people from assembling in peaceful groups as well as how many people can be in your house. If you lived in a Communist Country, you would not have these freedoms.
I hope someone or groups will sue these idiots in Federal Court and go on to the Supreme Court.
You have the constitutional right to ignore health directives and spread a deadly virus..got it
Change the USC.
 

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The common good prevails over individualism.
Except we are founded upon the opposite premise. We are about the rights of individuals which turns out in the long run to be the best thing that can be done for the common good! It has worked that way until now and COVID could have been dealt with via personal choice but we weren't even aske to trade liberty for supposed security
 

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The common good prevails over individualism.
Except we are founded upon the opposite premise. We are about the rights of individuals which turns out in the long run to be the best thing that can be done for the common good! It has worked that way until now and COVID could have been dealt with via personal choice but we weren't even aske to trade liberty for supposed security
Had they said the heck with preventive measures like masks and shutdowns, lets go with personal choice, it would have meant triple the current death rate. Which I realize to some would have been more than acceptable.
 

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The common good prevails over individualism.
Except we are founded upon the opposite premise. We are about the rights of individuals which turns out in the long run to be the best thing that can be done for the common good! It has worked that way until now and COVID could have been dealt with via personal choice but we weren't even aske to trade liberty for supposed security
Had they said the heck with preventive measures like masks and shutdowns, lets go with personal choice, it would have meant triple the current death rate. Which I realize to some would have been more than acceptable.
Are you retarded?
NYC, a bastion of Liberals is masking and distancing and is spiking.
 

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The common good prevails over individualism.
Except we are founded upon the opposite premise. We are about the rights of individuals which turns out in the long run to be the best thing that can be done for the common good! It has worked that way until now and COVID could have been dealt with via personal choice but we weren't even aske to trade liberty for supposed security
Had they said the heck with preventive measures like masks and shutdowns, lets go with personal choice, it would have meant triple the current death rate. Which I realize to some would have been more than acceptable.
Are you retarded?
NYC, a bastion of Liberals is masking and distancing and is spiking.
Not more than the Dakotas (per capita)..wonder why that is?
 

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The common good prevails over individualism.
Except we are founded upon the opposite premise. We are about the rights of individuals which turns out in the long run to be the best thing that can be done for the common good! It has worked that way until now and COVID could have been dealt with via personal choice but we weren't even aske to trade liberty for supposed security
Had they said the heck with preventive measures like masks and shutdowns, lets go with personal choice, it would have meant triple the current death rate. Which I realize to some would have been more than acceptable.
Are you retarded?
NYC, a bastion of Liberals is masking and distancing and is spiking.
Not more than the Dakotas (per capita)..wonder why that is?
So you searched for a locale known for not being Liberal in order to cover up the fact that masking and distancing are not the panaceas you preach them to be.
Send your post to all of the Liberals on ventilators in NYC hospitals and see how they respond.
 
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In Communism, the " greater good " replaces the 1st Amendment in our Constitution. Freedom has a certain flavor the protected will never know.
 
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Governors can not make you wear a face mask, prevent people from assembling in peaceful groups as well as how many people can be in your house. If you lived in a Communist Country, you would not have these freedoms.
I hope someone or groups will sue these idiots in Federal Court and go on to the Supreme Court.
Aside from the blatant unconstitutionality of these policies, there is also the fact that as far as I know, not one state in our nation has a dictatorial form of government. As far as I know, all of the states have republican (small “r”, nothing to do with the political party by that name) forms of government, patterned after the federal government, and many (perhaps most or all) hybridize that with a democratic (also small “d”, nothing to do with the political party going by that name, either) forms.

I do not think that there is any state in which the Governor, nor any other single individual, has the legitimate authority to unilaterally make law. Under the republican form, the Governor can only sign into law bills that have been passed to him from the state's legislature, and under the democratic form, the Governor has no role at all in the process of making a law.

So, these polices are invalid on two points, in blatantly violating the First Amendment rights to freedom of religion and assembly; and in not having been enacted into law by any legitimate process for doing so.
Much like our federal executive, our president.... governors have Emergency Powers, to act on their own under certain emergencies, is my understanding???
Not if they violate the US Constitution. The President and the State Governors can not violate the Constitution. Evidently, the delusional minds of the socialist democrats can not understand the meaning of Freedom. Oh, I forgot the same idiots believe the American People are not capable of making their own decisions. This has been the attitude toward Blacks and is the real Institutional Racism.
 
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Governors can not make you wear a face mask, prevent people from assembling in peaceful groups as well as how many people can be in your house. If you lived in a Communist Country, you would not have these freedoms.
I hope someone or groups will sue these idiots in Federal Court and go on to the Supreme Court.
He didn’t violate the constitution.
1. The case was moot because the district isn’t red zoned anymore. The court had nothing to rule on.

2. the case was remanded.

3. Screw you and any other religious freaks who think you should be able to kill other people.
You Democrats have been killing babies with no remorse.
 

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The common good prevails over individualism.
Except we are founded upon the opposite premise. We are about the rights of individuals which turns out in the long run to be the best thing that can be done for the common good! It has worked that way until now and COVID could have been dealt with via personal choice but we weren't even aske to trade liberty for supposed security
Had they said the heck with preventive measures like masks and shutdowns, lets go with personal choice, it would have meant triple the current death rate. Which I realize to some would have been more than acceptable.
That's simply not true. Remember two weeks to flatten the curve? There was no expectation of saving lives. The credit and blame only came during the campaign bullshit. There is an exception caused by certain governors by sending Corona to the one place it can kill in large numbers. Nursing homes. That was a terrible idea and they were advised not to do that. Besides the virus spread during lockdowns and NYS had a worse death rate than Sweden whom everyone hates for not falling in lockstep line. NYC was the worst corona hell hole in the entire world, not just the first world despite dracocian lock downs. Social distancing was just a theory.
 
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Will one of you who believes in the common good or greater good tell me where this was extracted from? These terms by themselves are meaningless. The Nazis believed that it was a common good to murder Jews. Mao saw in the common good of China to starve and murder anyone suspected of not adhering to his political, social and economic philosophy.
 

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The common good prevails over individualism.
Except we are founded upon the opposite premise. We are about the rights of individuals which turns out in the long run to be the best thing that can be done for the common good! It has worked that way until now and COVID could have been dealt with via personal choice but we weren't even aske to trade liberty for supposed security
Had they said the heck with preventive measures like masks and shutdowns, lets go with personal choice, it would have meant triple the current death rate. Which I realize to some would have been more than acceptable.
That's simply not true. Remember two weeks to flatten the curve? There was no expectation of saving lives. The credit and blame only came during the campaign bullshit. There is an exception caused by certain governors by sending Corona to the one place it can kill in large numbers. Nursing homes. That was a terrible idea and they were advised not to do that. Besides the virus spread during lockdowns and NYS had a worse death rate than Sweden whom everyone hates for not falling in lockstep line. NYC was the worst corona hell hole in the entire world, not just the first world despite dracocian lock downs. Social distancing was just a theory.
Some governors 'sent' the virus to nursing homes??..wow...didn't know that.
 
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The common good prevails over individualism.
Except we are founded upon the opposite premise. We are about the rights of individuals which turns out in the long run to be the best thing that can be done for the common good! It has worked that way until now and COVID could have been dealt with via personal choice but we weren't even aske to trade liberty for supposed security
Had they said the heck with preventive measures like masks and shutdowns, lets go with personal choice, it would have meant triple the current death rate. Which I realize to some would have been more than acceptable.
That's simply not true. Remember two weeks to flatten the curve? There was no expectation of saving lives. The credit and blame only came during the campaign bullshit. There is an exception caused by certain governors by sending Corona to the one place it can kill in large numbers. Nursing homes. That was a terrible idea and they were advised not to do that. Besides the virus spread during lockdowns and NYS had a worse death rate than Sweden whom everyone hates for not falling in lockstep line. NYC was the worst corona hell hole in the entire world, not just the first world despite dracocian lock downs. Social distancing was just a theory.
Some governors 'sent' the virus to nursing homes??..wow...didn't know that.
In NY over 146 Veterans died at State Veterans nursing homes. Cuomo said he followed CDC Guide Lines. He lied! A nursing home can accept a resident diagnosed with COVID-19 and still under Transmission- Based Precautions for COVID-19 as long as the facility can follow CDC guidance for Transmission-Based Precautions. If a nursing home cannot, it must wait until these precautions are discontinued. CDC has released Interim Guidance for Discontinuing Transmission-Based Precautions or In-Home Isolation for Persons with Laboratory-confirmed COVID-19.
 

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