Cultural appropriation - what do you think of this idea?

[SweetSue92]

Idk about all that. I think it was American musical exploration.
Well, they were black.

The Spiritual was a unique song which blended both White European and African elements. From that came Jazz. Without the Spiritual there would be no Jazz.

NEGRO/AFRICAN AMERICAN SPIRITUALS - Jazz History Tree

Harlem Late Night jazz Presents: NEGRO/AFRICAN AMERICAN SPIRITUALS HARLEM LATE NIGHT JAZZ Presents: NEGRO/AFRICAN AMERICAN SPIRITUALS The Jazz History Tree African American (Negro) spirituals emerged from a mix of the brutal institution of slavery, Christian influences, and African culture. The...

www.jazzhistorytree.com

 

[DudleySmith]

No, I'm teaching them my content area. Which doesn't include lessons about scalping, war, conquests, etc. But you want that shoehorned in just like Leftists want CRT shoehorned in to every lesson.

My my. The utter hypocrisy.

Yes, you're embarrassed about feeding little kids fake history. I understand perfectly.

 

[SweetSue92]

No, it descends from marching bands from the 1880's, both military and civilian, when brass instuments and drums were becoming plentiful and affordable. Blacks would buy them from pawn shops in the 1890's, and it went from there.

Sure. Sure it does.

NEGRO/AFRICAN AMERICAN SPIRITUALS - Jazz History Tree

Harlem Late Night jazz Presents: NEGRO/AFRICAN AMERICAN SPIRITUALS HARLEM LATE NIGHT JAZZ Presents: NEGRO/AFRICAN AMERICAN SPIRITUALS The Jazz History Tree African American (Negro) spirituals emerged from a mix of the brutal institution of slavery, Christian influences, and African culture. The...

www.jazzhistorytree.com

 

[SweetSue92]

Yes, you're embarrassed about feeding little kids fake history. I understand perfectly.

Looky here a "conservative" who wants me to feed the kiddies the BS indoctrination HE approves of.

Hahaha, no. Fail.

 

[DudleySmith]

The Spiritual was a unique song which blended both White European and African elements. From that came Jazz. Without the Spiritual there would be no Jazz.

NEGRO/AFRICAN AMERICAN SPIRITUALS - Jazz History Tree

Harlem Late Night jazz Presents: NEGRO/AFRICAN AMERICAN SPIRITUALS HARLEM LATE NIGHT JAZZ Presents: NEGRO/AFRICAN AMERICAN SPIRITUALS The Jazz History Tree African American (Negro) spirituals emerged from a mix of the brutal institution of slavery, Christian influences, and African culture. The...

www.jazzhistorytree.com

Negro spirituals descend from from English and Irish folk music and hymnals.

 

[SweetSue92]

No, it descends from marching bands from the 1880's, both military and civilian, when brass instuments and drums were becoming plentiful and affordable. Blacks would buy them from pawn shops in the 1890's, and it went from there.

Perhaps influenced BY, but did not descend FROM. Not even close.

 

[DudleySmith]

Sure. Sure it does.

NEGRO/AFRICAN AMERICAN SPIRITUALS - Jazz History Tree

Harlem Late Night jazz Presents: NEGRO/AFRICAN AMERICAN SPIRITUALS HARLEM LATE NIGHT JAZZ Presents: NEGRO/AFRICAN AMERICAN SPIRITUALS The Jazz History Tree African American (Negro) spirituals emerged from a mix of the brutal institution of slavery, Christian influences, and African culture. The...

www.jazzhistorytree.com

Ah, a link to fake history. Thanks! lol

 

[The Duke]

Now this here does link to the old timey spirituals. And it's some jazzy.




It's a thing that's fading away in America and I hate that.

You should have heard what my friend's brothers sang at his funeral.

That's that old stuff.

 

[SweetSue92]

Negro spirituals descend from from English and Irish folk music and hymnals.

Yeah? Nothing else mixed in there?

Ha

 

[DudleySmith]

Looky here a "conservative" who wants me to feed the kiddies the BS indoctrination HE approves of.

Hahaha, no. Fail.

lol you wish. All you're doing is making the kids suckers for idiotic Pity Parties peddled by con artists, is all.

 

[SweetSue92]

Ah, a link to fake history. Thanks! lol

Dudley: "I'm a racist so no way anything good came from Blacks"

Meanwhile, reasonable people:

https://www.jazzinamerica.org/LessonPlan/8/4/194#:~:text=Jazz%20evolved%20from%20slave%20songs,innovators%20were%20primarily%20African%20Americans.

 

[DudleySmith]

Yeah? Nothing else mixed in there?

Ha

Yes, poor language skills common among ignorant illiterate black people. Anything else you want to glorify here?

 

[SweetSue92]

lol you wish. All you're doing is making the lids suckers for idiotic Pity Parties peddled by con artists, is all.

Leftists want me teaching the kidlets about gender bending all day

Dudley here wants me teaching the crimes of ethnic minorities.

Same coin, different sides.

Hey Dudley? No.

 

[SweetSue92]

Yes, poor language skills common among ignorant illiterate black people. Anything else you want to glorify here?

Just want to highlight again that you're a florid racist. Rejected. No.

 

[DudleySmith]

Dudley: "I'm a racist so no way anything good came from Blacks"

Meanwhile, reasonable people:

https://www.jazzinamerica.org/LessonPlan/8/4/194#:~:text=Jazz%20evolved%20from%20slave%20songs,innovators%20were%20primarily%20African%20Americans.

lol another link to fake history. Meanwhile reasonable people can see fake lesson plans when they see them. Music history in the U.S. among American blacks started way before 'the early 20th Century', but we get why you need to lop off the previous couple of hundred years, lol.

 

[DudleySmith]

Leftists want me teaching the kidlets about gender bending all day

Dudley here wants me teaching the crimes of ethnic minorities.

Same coin, different sides.

Hey Dudley? No.

Why are you opposed to teaching them all the facts? Don't get a 'warm n fuzzy' from the truth?

 

[Batcat]

Cultural appropriation - what do you think of this idea?

How controversial is it?

I have noticed a lot a black ladies straighten their hair. Is this cultural appropriation?

If so I have no problem with it. I also don’t mind women who go blond like Fox News talking heads. Nor do I mind Taco Bell creating their version of Mexican food.

America to me is the great melting pot. Not only do the people who come here from all over the world mix but their ideas do too. That’s what makes our nation strong. Unfortunately a lot of people do not want our nation to be what it is so they come up with ideas to weaken it — like cultural appropriation.

 

[DudleySmith]

Just want to highlight again that you're a florid racist. Rejected. No.

You can't find anything 'racist' in what I said, which is your real reason for butthurtness.

 

[The Duke]

The Spiritual was a unique song which blended both White European and African elements. From that came Jazz. Without the Spiritual there would be no Jazz.

NEGRO/AFRICAN AMERICAN SPIRITUALS - Jazz History Tree

Harlem Late Night jazz Presents: NEGRO/AFRICAN AMERICAN SPIRITUALS HARLEM LATE NIGHT JAZZ Presents: NEGRO/AFRICAN AMERICAN SPIRITUALS The Jazz History Tree African American (Negro) spirituals emerged from a mix of the brutal institution of slavery, Christian influences, and African culture. The...

www.jazzhistorytree.com

Ahhh! I don't need to be hearin' no whitewashed version of what was. No.

I can still go places and hear them old timey songs.

Jazz is not spirituals and spirituals are not jazz.

They are totally different.

 

[SweetSue92]

lol another link to fake history. Meanwhile reasonable people can see fake lesson plans when they see them. Music history in the U.S. among American blacks started way before 'the early 20th Century', but we get why you need to lop off the previous couple of hundred years, lol.

I'm not "lobbing off" anything. I'm tracing the roots of Jazz. No one, and I mean NO ONE, traces the descendancy of Jazz to....marching bands. I mean.