Criminalizing Free Speech

[Blaster]

The DOJ is attempting to make free speech a criminal offense. This is unheard of in America.

Trump lawyer calls indictment an 'attack on free speech and political advocacy.' Follow live updates

Donald Trump’s attorney John Lauro is calling the latest indictment of the former president “an attack on free speech and political advocacy.”

abcnews.go.com

 

[rightwinger]

Lying is Free Speech?
Using your position as President to pressure election officials is Free Speech?
Creating fake electors to steal an election is Free Speech?

 

[TNHarley]

If he is getting indicted for lying, shouldnt most politicians be indicted for it?
Shit like this is why people say most of this is just politics. The law is not applied equally. In fact, its just applied to orange people, apparently.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Conspiracy is not free speech. State and Federal RICO is not free speech. Creating fake electors is not free speech.

 

[Votto]

If he is getting indicted for lying, shouldnt most politicians be indicted for it?
Shit like this is why people say most of this is just politics. The law is not applied equally. In fact, its just applied to orange people, apparently.

No, no, no!!

Only Trump

And when Trump is gone, they can move on to the Supreme Court until they are gone.

And when they are gone, they can move onto DeSantis until he is gone.

And when he is gone, they can come after you.

Stop with the gaslighting dog whistling MAGA stuff.

 

[Blaster]

No, no, no!!

Only Trump

And when Trump is gone, they can move on to the Supreme Court until they are gone.

And when they are gone, they can move onto DeSantis until he is gone.

And when he is gone, they can come after you.

Stop with the gaslighting dog whistling MAGA stuff.

They want anyone with conservative ideals silenced.

 

[Bobob]

The DOJ is attempting to make free speech a criminal offense. This is unheard of in America.

Trump lawyer calls indictment an 'attack on free speech and political advocacy.' Follow live updates

Donald Trump’s attorney John Lauro is calling the latest indictment of the former president “an attack on free speech and political advocacy.”

abcnews.go.com

There is free speech which is alive and well in America. However, when one acts on his free speech and carries it further than his mouth behind the scenes, by planning, inciting bad behavior, and attempting to subvert our fair election, it translates into an impeachable offense.
If Biden behaved in this fashion, y'all would be breathing fire. In fact, you are all in on Hunter, who is a non-entity by any stretch of your imagination and is only an excuse to remove trump from his self-created spotlight. trump is not on your side.

 

[Blaster]

There is free speech which is alive and well in America. However, when one acts on his free speech and carries it further than his mouth behind the scenes, by planning, inciting bad behavior, and attempting to subvert our fair election, it translates into an impeachable offense.
If Biden behaved in this fashion, y'all would be breathing fire. In fact, you are all in on Hunter, who is a non-entity by any stretch of your imagination and is only an excuse to remove trump from his self-created spotlight. trump is not on your side.

Bullshit.

 

[Bobob]

They want anyone with conservative ideals silenced.

That statement about conservative ideals is, of course, false. If what trump is trying to do to our democracy is your idea of "conservatism", then the fairy godmother is alive and well. He is subverting our democracy, and that is not "conservative ideals".

 

[Bobob]

Bullshit.

Of course, of course.

 

[Votto]

There is free speech which is alive and well in America. However, when one acts on his free speech and carries it further than his mouth behind the scenes, by planning, inciting bad behavior, and attempting to subvert our fair election, it translates into an impeachable offense.
If Biden behaved in this fashion, y'all would be breathing fire. In fact, you are all in on Hunter, who is a non-entity by any stretch of your imagination and is only an excuse to remove trump from his self-created spotlight. trump is not on your side.

Name one thing Trump said to incite violence.

Conversely, election laws changed at that time due to Covid as a lot of shady things occurred during the election

He is free to give voice to these concerns.

 

[toobfreak]

Creating fake electors to steal an election is Free Speech?

Getting real tired of your continual lies and imbecility. There is no such thing as a "fake" elector, Moron, and nothing Trump did was any different than that used in the 1960 election and before as permitted by law that goes back to the 1870s.

'Dueling' electors, 'hanging chads': a history of contested U.S. elections

The combination of the coronavirus pandemic and President Donald Trump's accusations of mass voter fraud by Democrats has legal experts warning of the possibility of a contested presidential election.

www.reuters.com

 

[martybegan]

Lying is Free Speech?
Using your position as President to pressure election officials is Free Speech?
Creating fake electors to steal an election is Free Speech?

Lying is free speech, unless you add money to it and turn it into fraud. Or you direct it a specific people and turn it into libel or slander.

Every elected official does that in some way.

Were those electors ever actually found to do anything?

 

[Bobob]

Name one thing Trump said to incite violence.

Conversely, election laws changed at that time due to Covid as a lot of shady things occurred during the election

He is free to give voice to these concerns.

Read the indictment. trump has done much more than to use his voice. There was nothing shady during the election, except in trump's mind. He knew that he lost, and 60 judges and one Ninja trump supporting group found no shade. trump has been involved in shady dealings all his life.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

The DOJ is attempting to make free speech a criminal offense. This is unheard of in America.

Trump lawyer calls indictment an 'attack on free speech and political advocacy.' Follow live updates

Donald Trump’s attorney John Lauro is calling the latest indictment of the former president “an attack on free speech and political advocacy.”

abcnews.go.com

Bullshit!! What T-Rump's lawer says is not worth squat. He was indicted for what he did, not what he said. Jack Smith was very careful to avoid first amendment issues. Read and learn

Ex-Trump White House lawyer: Jack Smith's indictment is 'smart and careful'

Special counsel Jack Smith's new indictment against former President Donald Trump for the plot to overturn the 2020 presidential election looks solid, and a real danger to the former president legally.That's the opinion of Jim Schultz, a former lawyer in the Trump White House, who offered his...

www.rawstory.com

"It's very thorough. It's very smart. It's very careful," said Schultz. "And I'll start with careful. It's careful in that they took the First Amendment issues, addressed it, got it off the table. They address the issue of, he has this right to free speech, you can say a lot of things, when he can't do is conspire to overthrow the election. He was very smart in that it kept the co-conspirators out of the indictment. I think that's very smart because what it does is signals that Donald Trump was in charge of this and everybody else was being used as his tool to accomplish his goal.

 

[Blaster]

Bullshit!! What T-Rump's lawer says is not worth squat. He was indicted for what he did, not what he said. Jack Smith was very careful to avoid first amendment issues. Read and learn

Ex-Trump White House lawyer: Jack Smith's indictment is 'smart and careful'

Special counsel Jack Smith's new indictment against former President Donald Trump for the plot to overturn the 2020 presidential election looks solid, and a real danger to the former president legally.That's the opinion of Jim Schultz, a former lawyer in the Trump White House, who offered his...

www.rawstory.com

"It's very thorough. It's very smart. It's very careful," said Schultz. "And I'll start with careful. It's careful in that they took the First Amendment issues, addressed it, got it off the table. They address the issue of, he has this right to free speech, you can say a lot of things, when he can't do is conspire to overthrow the election. He was very smart in that it kept the co-conspirators out of the indictment. I think that's very smart because what it does is signals that Donald Trump was in charge of this and everybody else was being used as his tool to accomplish his goal.

A very weak indictment.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

A very weak indictment.

Because YOU say so ?

 

[rightwinger]

Getting real tired of your continual lies and imbecility. There is no such thing as a "fake" elector, Moron, and nothing Trump did was any different than that used in the 1960 election and before as permitted by law that goes back to the 1870s.

'Dueling' electors, 'hanging chads': a history of contested U.S. elections

The combination of the coronavirus pandemic and President Donald Trump's accusations of mass voter fraud by Democrats has legal experts warning of the possibility of a contested presidential election.

www.reuters.com

Let’s have the courts decide how legal the scheme was

 

[Blaster]

Because YOU say so ?

Any rational person would agree with me.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

That statement about conservative ideals is, of course, false. If what trump is trying to do to our democracy is your idea of "conservatism", then the fairy godmother is alive and well. He is subverting our democracy, and that is not "conservative ideals".

We dont have a democracy.