Crime & Race 2012

[Publius1787]

Well, the 2013 data hasn't come out yet so I figured I would stick with 2012.

In 2012, African Americans Made up 13.6% of the total US Population, but were Responsible for ... ... ...

HALF of all US murders in 2012.
32% of reported forcible Rapes
34% of Aggravated Assaults
55% of Robberies
31% of Burglary's.
29% of Larceny/Theft
31% of Motor Vehicle Thefts
43% of Prostitutes
31% of Drug Abuse Violations
31% of Offenses Against Family & Children
34% of Disorderly Conduct
31% of Stolen Property Possession

Source: FBI ? Table 43

I would have liked to do the data on white people but the FBI considers Hispanics/Latinos as Whites for the purpose of the offender category but not the victim category. Funny how that works out huh?

For those of you who think the FBI is cooking the books the National Crime Victimization Survey numbers are nearly identical. See HERE

 

[Nutz]

So what is your point? You trying to recruit more whites into hating blacks? You want to propose killing the evil black man? You want to segregate? You took the time to post stats that everyone is aware of...so what is your point?

 

[Mr. H.]

Maybe he's just calling a spade a spade?

 

[Publius1787]

So what is your point? You trying to recruit more whites into hating blacks? You want to propose killing the evil black man? You want to segregate? You took the time to post stats that everyone is aware of...so what is your point?

My point? Blacks commit a vastly disproportionate amount of crime. But I will address you nevertheless.

The hate is one directional. Blacks make up 13.6% of the population but commit 22% of all racially motivated hate crimes. See HERE . Why would I want to recruit whites in catching up to blacks in the hate category? Even black people acknowledge that blacks hold the monopoly on racial hate. See below

More Americans say blacks more racist than whites: Rasmussen report - Washington Times
“Among black Americans, 31 percent think most blacks are racist, while 24 percent consider most whites racist

The number one killer of black people is black people as the FBI victim statistics show. Once again, why would I want white people to catch up to blacks in the violence category?

I'm glad you brought up segregation. In reality the number one indicator of whether a neighborhood is safe or not is it's black population. For this reason segregation persists. Indeed, white flight and the fostering of majority white schools thereof is a direct result not of anti black bias, but simply the recognition that blacks are much more likely to commit crime than whites. It isn't about hate, its about reality. Reality does not discriminate on race and objective decisions by the less prone to commit crime to steer clear of those that do is not an indicator of racism. Modern segregation is therefore promoted almost solely by blacks.

If you want my opinion as to why these numbers demonstrate such a disparity toward one race, I blame black culture. To blame it on skin color is nonsensical.

 

[Meathead]

So what is your point? You trying to recruit more whites into hating blacks? You want to propose killing the evil black man? You want to segregate? You took the time to post stats that everyone is aware of...so what is your point?

I suppose it's to elicit responses like yours. But more broadly why? Slavery, absent fathers-no models, low IQ, and poverty have all been postulated. More likely it is a combination of factors, but none can be excused.

 

[Publius1787]

So what is your point? You trying to recruit more whites into hating blacks? You want to propose killing the evil black man? You want to segregate? You took the time to post stats that everyone is aware of...so what is your point?

I suppose it's to elicit responses like yours. But more broadly why? Slavery, absent fathers-no models, low IQ, and poverty have all been postulated. More likely it is a combination of factors, but none can be excused.

Lets have a look at that.

Slavery?
This cant be. The Asians went from a state of indentured servitude to practically owning the West Coast. Indeed, this was post Civil War and blacks enjoyed more rights than Asians in the west. So why does one category commit the most crimes and why does the other commit the least? Culture

Absent fathers? Certainly, but who has children with such dirt bags? This must be cultural.

Low IQ? Why do blacks score lower on IQ tests? Why do Asians score higher? Once again it must be an cultural emphases, or lack thereof, on child rearing.

Poverty? No where in America is the poverty more absolute than in some of the hills of the Appalachia's. Of course, the crime rate there is much lower than average. Why? Culture.

 

[KissMy]

The problem with claiming "Black People" are violent, racist, stupid, criminal, lazy, drug addicts, etc is that a lot of them aren't that way at all. Perhaps 70% of Blacks & 30% of whites are not model citizens. How do you know which are wheat & wish are chaff? Because their skin color alone does not make them any of those things. Why not treat each person with respect until they prove they are a piece of shit.

 

[Moonglow]

Absent fathers? Certainly, but who has children with such dirt bags? This must be cultural.

you my dear sir are a dirtbag(I use the word correctly, you separated the two words which are one) in your own right..and you have the nerve to use John Locke as an avatar...

 

[KissMy]

Absent fathers? Certainly, but who has children with such dirt bags? This must be cultural.

Then why do you vote for people who oppose planned parenthood, birth control & abortion? They greatly reduce illegitimate black birth rates & aids. You caused the problem & scream at others for your stupidity. - LOL You are one of the white people who are dumber & more brainwashed than most blacks. It must suck to be that stupid. - LOL

 

[katsteve2012]

The problem with claiming "Black People" are violent, racist, stupid, criminal, lazy, drug addicts, etc is that a lot of them aren't that way at all. Perhaps 70% of Blacks & 30% of whites are not model citizens. How do you know which are wheat & wish are chaff? Because their skin color alone does not make them any of those things. Why not treat each person with respect until they prove they are a piece of shit.

What I have learned from posting in Internet forums like this is that you typically encounter two types of people:

1. Those who base the majority of their opinions about people in general on what they read in books and see on the news.

Not what they experience from one on one experiences with different types of people. Using my self as an example,if I based my opinions of the white population on what I read and heard while growing up, I would have a one dimensional view of the white population.

Instead, I made a decision to judge people individually as opposed to collectively.

2. The second types of people I have encountered in these type of forums are those who have lived in diverse environments over a relatively long period of time by choice, or worked around different types of people, and while in some cases they may have had some negative encounters with some of a certain race, they have also have had enough positive encounters to strike a balance and be objective. Of course, on the flipside, if a person is forced into an environment, for instance by being bused to a school, or through circumstances is forced to live in a less affluent area, their own resistance to their circumstances can prompt them to see most of what they see through a negative lens.

Of course, in many cases there are some here, who will state that they have in fact been around a large number of black people and their experience was all bad or that they have encountered black people who were family or friends of a relative whö treated them badly.

In these cases I have asked some of those same people "how many black people specifically?", and specifically for how long we're you around black people in a predominately black environment"?

Usually those questions are met with no response or the subject is quickly left alone.

So I do not put much credibility into what I read from quite a few here. It is an anonymous race relations forum for a reason, because it gives a voice to those who can say here, what they ordinarily would not say publicly, that does not mean that criticism is wrong, but what it does mean is that there will be those here who will use statistics and polls from various sites or their own imagination to present an opinion that "the majority" of one race is prone to be corrupt, and that is nothing more than ignorance, not good for anymore than entertainment.

 

[Publius1787]

Absent fathers? Certainly, but who has children with such dirt bags? This must be cultural.

Then why do you vote for people who oppose planned parenthood, birth control & abortion? They greatly reduce illegitimate black birth rates & aids. You caused the problem & scream at others for your stupidity. - LOL You are one of the white people who are dumber & more brainwashed than most blacks. It must suck to be that stupid. - LOL

I have long held that conservative opposition against abortion is their number one enemy. Indeed, more abortion = less unwed mothers = less poverty = less democrats. The way I figure it, if I could flip a time switch and make abortion 100% legal, frequent, and non-stigmatized, around a third of democrats would lose their seats in congress.

 

[KissMy]

Absent fathers? Certainly, but who has children with such dirt bags? This must be cultural.

Then why do you vote for people who oppose planned parenthood, birth control & abortion? They greatly reduce illegitimate black birth rates & aids. You caused the problem & scream at others for your stupidity. - LOL You are one of the white people who are dumber & more brainwashed than most blacks. It must suck to be that stupid. - LOL

I have long held that conservative opposition against abortion is their number one enemy. Indeed, more abortion = less unwed mothers = less poverty = less democrats. The way I figure it, if I could flip a time switch and make abortion 100% legal, frequent, and non-stigmatized, around a third of democrats would lose their seats in congress.

That is the same for minimum wage. When people work & earn enough to pay their own way, they are independent of government support, pay taxes & more likely to vote Republican. But Republicans depress wages, subsidize big business & massively increase government dependance creating more Democrat voters. That is why Republican spending goes through the roof & economy fails.

Republicans can't efficiently manage a population, country or an economy. Running a household or a business is in no way similar to running a country. Their ideology fails miserably every time.

But keep on voting for them & bitching up a storm.

 

[Publius1787]

Then why do you vote for people who oppose planned parenthood, birth control & abortion? They greatly reduce illegitimate black birth rates & aids. You caused the problem & scream at others for your stupidity. - LOL You are one of the white people who are dumber & more brainwashed than most blacks. It must suck to be that stupid. - LOL

I have long held that conservative opposition against abortion is their number one enemy. Indeed, more abortion = less unwed mothers = less poverty = less democrats. The way I figure it, if I could flip a time switch and make abortion 100% legal, frequent, and non-stigmatized, around a third of democrats would lose their seats in congress.

That is the same for minimum wage. When people work & earn enough to pay their own way, they are independent of government support, pay taxes & more likely to vote Republican. But Republicans depress wages, subsidize big business & massively increase government dependance creating more Democrat voters. That is why Republican spending goes through the roof & economy fails.

Republicans can't efficiently manage a population, country or an economy. Running a household or a business is in no way similar to running a country. Their ideology fails miserably every time.

But keep on voting for them & bitching up a storm.

No one owes anyone a living wage. In fact the minimum wage is the most anti - black law in the United States.

 

[KissMy]

I have long held that conservative opposition against abortion is their number one enemy. Indeed, more abortion = less unwed mothers = less poverty = less democrats. The way I figure it, if I could flip a time switch and make abortion 100% legal, frequent, and non-stigmatized, around a third of democrats would lose their seats in congress.

That is the same for minimum wage. When people work & earn enough to pay their own way, they are independent of government support, pay taxes & more likely to vote Republican. But Republicans depress wages, subsidize big business & massively increase government dependance creating more Democrat voters. That is why Republican spending goes through the roof & economy fails.

Republicans can't efficiently manage a population, country or an economy. Running a household or a business is in no way similar to running a country. Their ideology fails miserably every time.

But keep on voting for them & bitching up a storm.

No one owes anyone a living wage. In fact the minimum wage is the most anti - black law in the United States.

That is all lies proven wrong by actual data. But keep on believing your masters & remain a slave.

 

[Publius1787]

That is the same for minimum wage. When people work & earn enough to pay their own way, they are independent of government support, pay taxes & more likely to vote Republican. But Republicans depress wages, subsidize big business & massively increase government dependance creating more Democrat voters. That is why Republican spending goes through the roof & economy fails.

Republicans can't efficiently manage a population, country or an economy. Running a household or a business is in no way similar to running a country. Their ideology fails miserably every time.

But keep on voting for them & bitching up a storm.

No one owes anyone a living wage. In fact the minimum wage is the most anti - black law in the United States.

That is all lies proven wrong by actual data. But keep on believing your masters & remain a slave.

Because you say so right? No no no, lets ignore the two economists with Ph.D.'s and Nobel Peace Prizes and listen to "KissMy" because evidently his "facts" without cited authority or data surpass those who have studied the issue.

 

[KissMy]

No one owes anyone a living wage. In fact the minimum wage is the most anti - black law in the United States.

That is all lies proven wrong by actual data. But keep on believing your masters & remain a slave.

Because you say so right? No no no, lets ignore the two economists with Ph.D.'s and Nobel Peace Prizes and listen to "KissMy" because evidently his "facts" without cited authority or data surpass those who have studied the issue.

No - Because the facts say so. TV propaganda does not have to be rooted in facts. So learn the facts or be a drone controlled by propaganda like one tribe vs another. The facts are contrary to the group think of the self proclaimed economic experts, many of who should demand a refund on what they paid their education.

Welfare & Entitlement Spending Way Up Under Bush & Down Since Obama Took Office Because Raising Minimum Wages CUTS Government Spending.

The faster & higher you raise the minimum wage, the slower the dollar loses it's value. Because most of the people on the government dole are working at a real job. Prices ALWAYS rise before wages because Government & Banks create money. Wages do not push or drive inflation & wage price spiral is a hoax. Higher minimum wages get workers off the government dole so government does not have to print more money causing inflation. Also higher minimum wages means Government does not have to guarantee bank home or business loans causing inflation because underpaid workers default at high rates.

Raising Wages increases employment & CUTS Government Spending. Socialism is when employers make government tax payers pay for their workers so they can drive others out of business & pocket everyone else's wealth. If you don't like the minimum wage then pass a law banning employment of someone on the government dole. Because I already pay my workers & should not have to keep subsidizing yours, harming my business. Employment rises as wages & minimum wages rise.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Well, the 2013 data hasn't come out yet

I'm sure you'll be quivering with anticipation in your mom's basement until the new data comes out. Make sure to keep some lotion and a tissue handy for when they finally release it.

 

[Intolerant]

Let's all have a group hug. Fuck da haters Noamsaying.

 

[Publius1787]

Well, the 2013 data hasn't come out yet

I'm sure you'll be quivering with anticipation in your mom's basement until the new data comes out. Make sure to keep some lotion and a tissue handy for when they finally release it.

There is a partial released for 2013. If anything it indicates no change. A simple Google search of the database would reveal the veracity of this claim.

 

[Publius1787]

That is all lies proven wrong by actual data. But keep on believing your masters & remain a slave.

Because you say so right? No no no, lets ignore the two economists with Ph.D.'s and Nobel Peace Prizes and listen to "KissMy" because evidently his "facts" without cited authority or data surpass those who have studied the issue.

No - Because the facts say so. TV propaganda does not have to be rooted in facts. So learn the facts or be a drone controlled by propaganda like one tribe vs another. The facts are contrary to the group think of the self proclaimed economic experts, many of who should demand a refund on what they paid their education.

Welfare & Entitlement Spending Way Up Under Bush & Down Since Obama Took Office Because Raising Minimum Wages CUTS Government Spending.

The faster & higher you raise the minimum wage, the slower the dollar loses it's value. Because most of the people on the government dole are working at a real job. Prices ALWAYS rise before wages because Government & Banks create money. Wages do not push or drive inflation & wage price spiral is a hoax. Higher minimum wages get workers off the government dole so government does not have to print more money causing inflation. Also higher minimum wages means Government does not have to guarantee bank home or business loans causing inflation because underpaid workers default at high rates.

Raising Wages increases employment & CUTS Government Spending. Socialism is when employers make government tax payers pay for their workers so they can drive others out of business & pocket everyone else's wealth. If you don't like the minimum wage then pass a law banning employment of someone on the government dole. Because I already pay my workers & should not have to keep subsidizing yours, harming my business. Employment rises as wages & minimum wages rise.

What does any of this have to do with the historic effect of the minimum wage on blacks? Or did you get so caught up in your own nuttiness that you forgot what the topic was?