Could we put the lies about Biden to bed now?

[Lesh]

Then he should have asked that. But he didn't. He asked for Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden's role in getting the prosecution stopped.

That's exactly what was implied

Did Shokins removal that Joe demanded
and conditional for money from the U.S.
have anything to do with Burisma

For all this corruption in Ukraine,
aid amounts from the U.S. consistently
were around 300 million dollars during the Obama administration
with the exception of the last 2 years of administration
Aid for Ukraine for the 2 years after Shokin was removed
was over $500 million, yet corruption was still rampant

Forget what you think he implied. This is what he actually asked of Zelensky...

"Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it..."​

There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.

Hunter was working for Burisma

His boss had fled the country and was a fugitive

His boss was being investigated for money enrichment
in connection to money stolen from the UNB

Shokin was removed

Burisma and it's owner were represented in court
by former Obama DAG and 4 charges were dropped
after a monetary settlement was reached through
tax evasion laws

Burisma owner taken off of the fugitive list
and returns to Ukraine

Ukraine parliament begin proceedings to take back
2 pending cases from NABU in limbo since 2014
Contending the U.S. is overstepping in Ukraine's affairs

investigation into money embezzled out of UNB reopened

Investigations stalled

Investigations into mishandling of criminal investigations
against Burisma and its owner and U.S. involvement

12 arrests and 2 bank seizures in connection to
money embezzled out of UNB and tied to Burisma

Thanks for reiterating Trump's request to Zelensky that Biden be investigated for his role in getting Shokin fired.

Oh, and Trump didn't actually care if Ukraine really did investigate Biden. He just want Ukraine to publically announce Biden was under investigation. All Trump was interested in was smearing Biden.

That's total bullshit, Faun.


President Trump could care less about public announcements of Biden investigation or not. That's why it took a so-called "whistle blower" to start talking about it. Trump wasn't publicizing his chats with his Ukrainian counterpart. Trump isn't stupid, he knows the libs will vote for Biden regardless of their corruption. Publicizing this does nothing for The Donald.

Bullshit. Witnesses have testified that Trump only cared about an announcement and indeed Zelensky was scheduled to go on CNN and make that announcement. He canceled when the scheme fell apart and the aid was released

 

[Lesh]

CNN host Fareed Zakaria was set to interview Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky until scandal took shape - CNNPolitics

 

[Polishprince]

That's exactly what was implied

Did Shokins removal that Joe demanded
and conditional for money from the U.S.
have anything to do with Burisma

For all this corruption in Ukraine,
aid amounts from the U.S. consistently
were around 300 million dollars during the Obama administration
with the exception of the last 2 years of administration
Aid for Ukraine for the 2 years after Shokin was removed
was over $500 million, yet corruption was still rampant

Forget what you think he implied. This is what he actually asked of Zelensky...

"Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it..."​

There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.

Hunter was working for Burisma

His boss had fled the country and was a fugitive

His boss was being investigated for money enrichment
in connection to money stolen from the UNB

Shokin was removed

Burisma and it's owner were represented in court
by former Obama DAG and 4 charges were dropped
after a monetary settlement was reached through
tax evasion laws

Burisma owner taken off of the fugitive list
and returns to Ukraine

Ukraine parliament begin proceedings to take back
2 pending cases from NABU in limbo since 2014
Contending the U.S. is overstepping in Ukraine's affairs

investigation into money embezzled out of UNB reopened

Investigations stalled

Investigations into mishandling of criminal investigations
against Burisma and its owner and U.S. involvement

12 arrests and 2 bank seizures in connection to
money embezzled out of UNB and tied to Burisma

Thanks for reiterating Trump's request to Zelensky that Biden be investigated for his role in getting Shokin fired.

Oh, and Trump didn't actually care if Ukraine really did investigate Biden. He just want Ukraine to publically announce Biden was under investigation. All Trump was interested in was smearing Biden.

That's total bullshit, Faun.


President Trump could care less about public announcements of Biden investigation or not. That's why it took a so-called "whistle blower" to start talking about it. Trump wasn't publicizing his chats with his Ukrainian counterpart. Trump isn't stupid, he knows the libs will vote for Biden regardless of their corruption. Publicizing this does nothing for The Donald.

Bullshit. Witnesses have testified that Trump only cared about an announcement and indeed Zelensky was scheduled to go on CNN and make that announcement. He canceled when the scheme fell apart and the aid was released

When Zelensky testifies at the Trump trial, it will certainly be interesting. Proving that the Ukrainian President is a filthy liar is going to be a tough sell for the libs.

 

[berg80]

CNN host Fareed Zakaria was set to interview Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky until scandal took shape - CNNPolitics

Trumpette's don't react well to factual arguments.

 

[Rigby5]

Zelensky was never asked to make any announcement, and in fact never did make one.

 

[Lesh]

CNN host Fareed Zakaria was set to interview Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky until scandal took shape - CNNPolitics

Zelensky was never asked to make any announcement, and in fact never did make one.

Sock puppets tend to lie blatantly

 

[Lesh]

CNN host Fareed Zakaria was set to interview Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky until scandal took shape - CNNPolitics

 

[berg80]

Zelensky was never asked to make any announcement, and in fact never did make one.

You're lying.

Sondland says Zelensky would have to announce an investigation in exchange for White House meeting
https://www.washingtonpost.com/vide...8082f-75e1-4747-bb94-f48ae86eefe0_video.html?

Testimony and texts: How the Trump-Ukraine allegations fit together in a timeline
- Meanwhile, Zelenskiy was eager to visit the White House and meet with Trump. At the White House's behest, senior U.S. officials made clear to Zelenskiy's team that a White House visit would only happen if Ukraine investigated Biden and announced it publicly.
Testimony and texts: How the Trump-Ukraine allegations fit together in a timeline

 

[Lesh]

Going by word of the guy who was extorted and is STILL dependent on the perpetrator of that extortion is pretty stupid

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance

The United States and other Western nations had for months called for the ousting of Mr. Shokin, who was widely criticized for turning a blind eye to corrupt practices and for defending the interests of a venal and entrenched elite. He was one of several political figures in Kiev whom reformers and Western diplomats saw as a worrying indicator of a return to past corrupt practices, two years after a revolution that was supposed to put a stop to self-dealing by those in power.

As the problems festered, Kiev drew increasingly sharp criticism from Western diplomats and leaders. In a visit in December, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. said corruption was eating Ukraine “like a cancer.” Christine Lagarde, the managing director of the International Monetary Fund, which props up Ukraine financially, said last month that progress was so slow in fighting corruption that “it’s hard to see how the I.M.F.-supported program can continue.”
Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance
...................................................................................................................................................
Hunter Biden 'did not violate anything,' former Ukrainian prosecutor says
Hunter Biden 'did not violate anything,' former Ukrainian prosecutor says

A former Ukrainian prosecutor who investigated a gas company tied to Hunter Biden said Thursday that there was no evidence the former vice president's son engaged in illegal activity.

"From the perspective of Ukrainian legislation, he did not violate anything,” Yuriy Lutsenko told The Washington Post.
....................................................................................................................................................
Debunking 4 Viral Rumors About the Bidens and Ukraine

At the time of his board appointment, the younger Mr. Biden had just been discharged from the Navy Reserve for drug use. He had no apparent experience in Ukraine or natural gas. And while accepting the board position was legal, it reportedly raised some eyebrows in the Obama administration. The Burisma board position was lucrative: Mr. Biden received payments that reached up to $50,000 per month.

A year later, Viktor Shokin became Ukraine’s prosecutor general, a job similar to the attorney general in the United States. He vowed to keep investigating Burisma amid an international push to root out corruption in Ukraine.

But the investigation went dormant under Mr. Shokin. In the fall of 2015, Joe Biden joined the chorus of Western officials calling for Mr. Shokin’s ouster. The next March, Mr. Shokin was fired. A subsequent prosecutor cleared Mr. Zlochevsky.
Debunking 4 Viral Rumors About the Bidens and Ukraine
......................................................................................................................................
Is there any evidence Old Joe pushed to have Shokin removed because of his kid's involvement with Burisma? No. How could there be since Shokin was not investigating Burisma? A fact that contributed to Shokin's dismissal demanded by the EU and the IMF for NOT adequately investigating corruption in Ukraine.

All the facts in evidence point to Trump's demand that an announcement be made the Bidens were being investigated by Ukraine had nothing to do with a realistic expectation anything nefarious would be found. Rather, Ukraine's acquiescence to conduct an investigation was what Don wanted because he knew it was enough to smear Biden.

Trump's belief has been borne out. Even though no investigation was launched and no evidence of wrongdoing exists millions of gullible rubes have it in their easily manipulated heads Biden is guilty of something............based on unsubstantiated innuendo.

 

[Rigby5]

You're lying.

Sondland says Zelensky would have to announce an investigation in exchange for White House meeting


Testimony and texts: How the Trump-Ukraine allegations fit together in a timeline
- Meanwhile, Zelenskiy was eager to visit the White House and meet with Trump. At the White House's behest, senior U.S. officials made clear to Zelenskiy's team that a White House visit would only happen if Ukraine investigated Biden and announced it publicly.
Testimony and texts: How the Trump-Ukraine allegations fit together in a timeline

Wrong.
The White house meeting was NOT discussed on the phone call, and is NOT a topic of impeachment.
A white house meeting would be an OPTIONAL political event any president can do or not do, as their campaign desires dictate,

A political quid pro quo is NOT at all illegal.
It is only illegal if money is involved.
Everyone does political quid pro quo, and it is always perfectly legal.
There is nothing wrong with people politically supporting those of similar political beliefs.
It is only illegal is US foreign aid or some monetary amount is involved.

 

[g5000]

Wrong.
The White house meeting was NOT discussed on the phone call, and is NOT a topic of impeachment.

You really should have read the transcript, rube.

The President: Good. Well, thank you very much and I appreciate that. I will tell Rudy and Attorney General Barr to call. Thank you. Whenever you would like to come to the White House, feel free to call. Give us a date and we’ll work that out. I look forward to seeing you.

Read Trump's phone conversation with Volodymyr Zelensky | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump repeatedly pushed for Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, and his son, Hunter, during a July 25 phone call, according to a transcript of the conversation released by the White House.

www.cnn.com

 

[Rigby5]

You really should have read the transcript, rube.

The President: Good. Well, thank you very much and I appreciate that. I will tell Rudy and Attorney General Barr to call. Thank you. Whenever you would like to come to the White House, feel free to call. Give us a date and we’ll work that out. I look forward to seeing you.

Read Trump's phone conversation with Volodymyr Zelensky | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump repeatedly pushed for Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, and his son, Hunter, during a July 25 phone call, according to a transcript of the conversation released by the White House.

www.cnn.com

Wrong.
That transcript in NO WAY implies that a visit to the White House was dependent upon what the results of the Burisma Holding investigation came up with.

 

[g5000]

Wrong.
That transcript in NO WAY implies that a visit to the White House was dependent upon what the results of the Burisma Holding investigation came up with.

You said, "The White house meeting was NOT discussed on the phone call."

You really should have read the transcript, rube.

 

[Rigby5]

You said, "The White house meeting was NOT discussed on the phone call."

You really should have read the transcript, rube.

The point is there was no quid pro quo discussed concerning the White House visit.
I read the transcripts as well as watching the live video.
But there was nothing worth remembering.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You really should have read the transcript, rube.

The President: Good. Well, thank you very much and I appreciate that. I will tell Rudy and Attorney General Barr to call. Thank you. Whenever you would like to come to the White House, feel free to call. Give us a date and we’ll work that out. I look forward to seeing you.

Read Trump's phone conversation with Volodymyr Zelensky | CNN Politics

President Donald Trump repeatedly pushed for Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, and his son, Hunter, during a July 25 phone call, according to a transcript of the conversation released by the White House.

www.cnn.com

And what exactly is wrong with that, Guno?

Joe Biden took bribes - IMPEACH TRUMP

You fucking Nazis are the bottom of the sewer - no question.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You said, "The White house meeting was NOT discussed on the phone call."

You really should have read the transcript, rube.

Where was the quid pro biden in the call, Guno?

Ah, of course you're just lying - as hack Nazis do.

 

[jc456]

Where was the quid pro biden in the call, Guno?

Ah, of course you're just lying - as hack Nazis do.

they don't know what quid pro quo is.

 

[jc456]

Yo, to all my conservative friends in here. take a look at this video. I kid you not.

 

[AntonToo]

Joe Biden took bribes - IMPEACH TRUMP

Baseless bullshit. Even Republicans admitted as much.

You can keep repeating it day in and out, not going to make it more belivable.