Could It Be That Many Conservatives Are Getting As Bad As Liberals?

[eagle1462010]

Marginalized..............Please explain that one........DAD



I'm probably old enough to be yours............LOL

The left ceases fire are this continues..........that is the issue........PERIOD.

Some people will part of the conversation that leads to improvements, some will be left to scream in irrelevant, impotent rage.
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In this environment we have today............Dream on............You always lean left you know............You have admitted that in the past.........so you always say you are the NEGOTIATOR for this.............But ALWAYS COME AFTER THE CONSERVATIVES..........

When the leftist Lunatics knock their shit off we can talk........until then...........To HELL WITH THEM.........

We are tired of their crap and you know it.

The thread is about the behaviors of both sides.

The two sides share several behaviors, which I have already listed.

I can see both sides of this. You can't. Not my problem.
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You always play moderator..............and always lean left..............You always push more against Conservatives when the leftist actions in this country are proven violent time and time again............The Lying.........The Character Assassination.........Intimidation outside Reps homes........attacking them for a MAGA hat...........Threatening them in a movie theatre with their kids........Breaking into assemblees and forcing the meeting to close jumping up and down on tables..........................and on and on and on............

To say we compare to them is Ridiculous.............just as you claim moderation on this issue...........You are a FRAUD.

Yes, I lean left, as I clearly point out in the link at the end of the second line of my sig, during which I still disembowel a Regressive Leftist: Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Yet, unlike you, I happily take incoming from both ends of the spectrum every day here.

Unlike you, I don't have a soft, comfy, ideological Safe Space to hide in and fling poo.

Unlike you, I don't need one.

You don't like my points, so you bitch about me personally. Go ahead and bitch.
.

Oh I will and I do..............because you are a fraud.

 

[Mac1958]

Some people will part of the conversation that leads to improvements, some will be left to scream in irrelevant, impotent rage.
.

In this environment we have today............Dream on............You always lean left you know............You have admitted that in the past.........so you always say you are the NEGOTIATOR for this.............But ALWAYS COME AFTER THE CONSERVATIVES..........

When the leftist Lunatics knock their shit off we can talk........until then...........To HELL WITH THEM.........

We are tired of their crap and you know it.

The thread is about the behaviors of both sides.

The two sides share several behaviors, which I have already listed.

I can see both sides of this. You can't. Not my problem.
.

You always play moderator..............and always lean left..............You always push more against Conservatives when the leftist actions in this country are proven violent time and time again............The Lying.........The Character Assassination.........Intimidation outside Reps homes........attacking them for a MAGA hat...........Threatening them in a movie theatre with their kids........Breaking into assemblees and forcing the meeting to close jumping up and down on tables..........................and on and on and on............

To say we compare to them is Ridiculous.............just as you claim moderation on this issue...........You are a FRAUD.

Yes, I lean left, as I clearly point out in the link at the end of the second line of my sig, during which I still disembowel a Regressive Leftist: Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Yet, unlike you, I happily take incoming from both ends of the spectrum every day here.

Unlike you, I don't have a soft, comfy, ideological Safe Space to hide in and fling poo.

Unlike you, I don't need one.

You don't like my points, so you bitch about me personally. Go ahead and bitch.
.

Oh I will and I do..............because you are a fraud.

Well, let's see.

A fraud would be a person who tries to deceive. That would mean you think I'm claiming to be something I'm not.

Go ahead. Back up your words. You can start by laying out what I'm claiming to be.
.

 

[eagle1462010]

In this environment we have today............Dream on............You always lean left you know............You have admitted that in the past.........so you always say you are the NEGOTIATOR for this.............But ALWAYS COME AFTER THE CONSERVATIVES..........

When the leftist Lunatics knock their shit off we can talk........until then...........To HELL WITH THEM.........

We are tired of their crap and you know it.

The thread is about the behaviors of both sides.

The two sides share several behaviors, which I have already listed.

I can see both sides of this. You can't. Not my problem.
.

You always play moderator..............and always lean left..............You always push more against Conservatives when the leftist actions in this country are proven violent time and time again............The Lying.........The Character Assassination.........Intimidation outside Reps homes........attacking them for a MAGA hat...........Threatening them in a movie theatre with their kids........Breaking into assemblees and forcing the meeting to close jumping up and down on tables..........................and on and on and on............

To say we compare to them is Ridiculous.............just as you claim moderation on this issue...........You are a FRAUD.

Yes, I lean left, as I clearly point out in the link at the end of the second line of my sig, during which I still disembowel a Regressive Leftist: Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Yet, unlike you, I happily take incoming from both ends of the spectrum every day here.

Unlike you, I don't have a soft, comfy, ideological Safe Space to hide in and fling poo.

Unlike you, I don't need one.

You don't like my points, so you bitch about me personally. Go ahead and bitch.
.

Oh I will and I do..............because you are a fraud.

Well, let's see.

A fraud would be a person who tries to deceive. That would mean you think I'm claiming to be something I'm not.

Go ahead. Back up your words. You can start by laying out what I'm claiming to be.
.

You claim to be this super moderator all the time........Trying to bring Peace to the sides but you always concentrate on the right side of the political spectrum. That is because you are a Liberal in heart.

You want us to appease the foaming at the mouth far left.......That dog don't hunt anymore. They can not be negotiated with anymore. That's my point.

Calling you a fraud is an opinion because I see you pandering to one side while demanding we do nothing to the violent actions of the left.

 

[Mac1958]

The thread is about the behaviors of both sides.

The two sides share several behaviors, which I have already listed.

I can see both sides of this. You can't. Not my problem.
.

You always play moderator..............and always lean left..............You always push more against Conservatives when the leftist actions in this country are proven violent time and time again............The Lying.........The Character Assassination.........Intimidation outside Reps homes........attacking them for a MAGA hat...........Threatening them in a movie theatre with their kids........Breaking into assemblees and forcing the meeting to close jumping up and down on tables..........................and on and on and on............

To say we compare to them is Ridiculous.............just as you claim moderation on this issue...........You are a FRAUD.

Yes, I lean left, as I clearly point out in the link at the end of the second line of my sig, during which I still disembowel a Regressive Leftist: Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Yet, unlike you, I happily take incoming from both ends of the spectrum every day here.

Unlike you, I don't have a soft, comfy, ideological Safe Space to hide in and fling poo.

Unlike you, I don't need one.

You don't like my points, so you bitch about me personally. Go ahead and bitch.
.

Oh I will and I do..............because you are a fraud.

Well, let's see.

A fraud would be a person who tries to deceive. That would mean you think I'm claiming to be something I'm not.

Go ahead. Back up your words. You can start by laying out what I'm claiming to be.
.

You claim to be this super moderator all the time........Trying to bring Peace to the sides but you always concentrate on the right side of the political spectrum. That is because you are a Liberal in heart.

You want us to appease the foaming at the mouth far left.......That dog don't hunt anymore. They can not be negotiated with anymore. That's my point.

Calling you a fraud is an opinion because I see you pandering to one side while demanding we do nothing to the violent actions of the left.

I "claim to be this super moderator all the time"? Really?

Yeah, that's never happened, and you know that. Well, maybe you do, who knows.

When wingers can't refute my points, they go after me personally. Happens all the time.

You see things as Left vs. Right. I see things as narcissistic wingers vs. the rest of us.

I'm guessing you have no idea what I'm talking about. None. But thanks for trying/lying.
.

 

[eagle1462010]

You always play moderator..............and always lean left..............You always push more against Conservatives when the leftist actions in this country are proven violent time and time again............The Lying.........The Character Assassination.........Intimidation outside Reps homes........attacking them for a MAGA hat...........Threatening them in a movie theatre with their kids........Breaking into assemblees and forcing the meeting to close jumping up and down on tables..........................and on and on and on............

To say we compare to them is Ridiculous.............just as you claim moderation on this issue...........You are a FRAUD.

Yes, I lean left, as I clearly point out in the link at the end of the second line of my sig, during which I still disembowel a Regressive Leftist: Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Yet, unlike you, I happily take incoming from both ends of the spectrum every day here.

Unlike you, I don't have a soft, comfy, ideological Safe Space to hide in and fling poo.

Unlike you, I don't need one.

You don't like my points, so you bitch about me personally. Go ahead and bitch.
.

Oh I will and I do..............because you are a fraud.

Well, let's see.

A fraud would be a person who tries to deceive. That would mean you think I'm claiming to be something I'm not.

Go ahead. Back up your words. You can start by laying out what I'm claiming to be.
.

You claim to be this super moderator all the time........Trying to bring Peace to the sides but you always concentrate on the right side of the political spectrum. That is because you are a Liberal in heart.

You want us to appease the foaming at the mouth far left.......That dog don't hunt anymore. They can not be negotiated with anymore. That's my point.

Calling you a fraud is an opinion because I see you pandering to one side while demanding we do nothing to the violent actions of the left.

I "claim to be this super moderator all the time"? Really?

Yeah, that's never happened, and you know that. Well, maybe you do, who knows.

When wingers can't refute my points, they go after me personally. Happens all the time.

You see things as Left vs. Right. I see things as narcissistic wingers vs. the rest of us.

I'm guessing you have no idea what I'm talking about. None. But thanks for trying/lying.
.

Oh Baloney......I call you to the mat on these threads every time.......You slant one side period...........when you get called out you act like a pompus snob...........a liberal trait................

Wingers........when the left stops being violent to anyone who disagrees with them you get back to me. We have the right to defend our views and our ground if necessary........

Go to your buddies in the far left and tell them to not open Pandora's box.....They will not like it

 

[SweetSue92]

In being on this forum a few years now, I've noted that most of the total idiots are on the Left. But over time I've been surprised that some conservatives I thought were fairly intelligent and reasonable people go off into deep end just as badly with loony conspiracy theory about the Moon being hollow or even shooting a victim not just until they are subdued and helpless, not even stopping after they are down, but even continue firing into the person until they totally stop MOVING.

Let me start spraying you with 9mm fire and see if you just lay there unmoving not reacting to the pain or trying to protect yourself. If it is a .45, you might still move just from the hydrostatic shock.

BOTTOM LINE: Many on the Left ARE communist and socialist sympathizers who want anarchy and hate their country, but there are enough on the Left that are real bloodthirsty violent Neocons as well. I've even been stalked by a few.

What I've noticed is that while there are quite a few intelligent and reasonable people here, nearly all conservative, for many, when push comes to shove, when it really gets down to it, when a lot of conservatives or maybe republicans or "Right-Wing" disagree, their methods are NO BETTER than the worst on the Left.

You people all use THE SAME METHODS.

Many on the Left and the Right are just as bad as the other, use the exact same methods, and both act like stupid schoolchildren.

I'll entertain any intelligent discussion.

I notice most the White Supremacists on the right here. TBH I never encountered one in real life and that's the truth. Maybe they hide themselves...for good reason actually. It's shameful.

 

[Mac1958]

Yes, I lean left, as I clearly point out in the link at the end of the second line of my sig, during which I still disembowel a Regressive Leftist: Error | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Yet, unlike you, I happily take incoming from both ends of the spectrum every day here.

Unlike you, I don't have a soft, comfy, ideological Safe Space to hide in and fling poo.

Unlike you, I don't need one.

You don't like my points, so you bitch about me personally. Go ahead and bitch.
.

Oh I will and I do..............because you are a fraud.

Well, let's see.

A fraud would be a person who tries to deceive. That would mean you think I'm claiming to be something I'm not.

Go ahead. Back up your words. You can start by laying out what I'm claiming to be.
.

You claim to be this super moderator all the time........Trying to bring Peace to the sides but you always concentrate on the right side of the political spectrum. That is because you are a Liberal in heart.

You want us to appease the foaming at the mouth far left.......That dog don't hunt anymore. They can not be negotiated with anymore. That's my point.

Calling you a fraud is an opinion because I see you pandering to one side while demanding we do nothing to the violent actions of the left.

I "claim to be this super moderator all the time"? Really?

Yeah, that's never happened, and you know that. Well, maybe you do, who knows.

When wingers can't refute my points, they go after me personally. Happens all the time.

You see things as Left vs. Right. I see things as narcissistic wingers vs. the rest of us.

I'm guessing you have no idea what I'm talking about. None. But thanks for trying/lying.
.

Oh Baloney......I call you to the mat on these threads every time.......You slant one side period...........when you get called out you act like a pompus snob...........a liberal trait................

Wingers........when the left stops being violent to anyone who disagrees with them you get back to me. We have the right to defend our views and our ground if necessary........

Go to your buddies in the far left and tell them to not open Pandora's box.....They will not like it

As I've already said (who knows what you're capable of retaining), I lean Left. Yes. Definitely. Is that clear enough? Simple enough?

I guess somehow you "haven't seen" the thousands of times I went up against Regressive Leftists over PC, Identity Politics, and other issues.

That's okay.

Funny how you accuse me of being a fraud, and then you lie ("super moderator") to back up your words. I do love irony.
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[eagle1462010]

Oh I will and I do..............because you are a fraud.

Well, let's see.

A fraud would be a person who tries to deceive. That would mean you think I'm claiming to be something I'm not.

Go ahead. Back up your words. You can start by laying out what I'm claiming to be.
.

You claim to be this super moderator all the time........Trying to bring Peace to the sides but you always concentrate on the right side of the political spectrum. That is because you are a Liberal in heart.

You want us to appease the foaming at the mouth far left.......That dog don't hunt anymore. They can not be negotiated with anymore. That's my point.

Calling you a fraud is an opinion because I see you pandering to one side while demanding we do nothing to the violent actions of the left.

I "claim to be this super moderator all the time"? Really?

Yeah, that's never happened, and you know that. Well, maybe you do, who knows.

When wingers can't refute my points, they go after me personally. Happens all the time.

You see things as Left vs. Right. I see things as narcissistic wingers vs. the rest of us.

I'm guessing you have no idea what I'm talking about. None. But thanks for trying/lying.
.

Oh Baloney......I call you to the mat on these threads every time.......You slant one side period...........when you get called out you act like a pompus snob...........a liberal trait................

Wingers........when the left stops being violent to anyone who disagrees with them you get back to me. We have the right to defend our views and our ground if necessary........

Go to your buddies in the far left and tell them to not open Pandora's box.....They will not like it

As I've already said (who knows what you're capable of retaining), I lean Left. Yes. Definitely. Is that clear enough? Simple enough?

I guess somehow you "haven't seen" the thousands of times I went up against Regressive Leftists over PC, Identity Politics, and other issues.

That's okay.

Funny how you accuse me of being a fraud, and then you lie ("super moderator") to back up your words. I do love irony.
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Opinions are a lie.............tell me about irony again.

My opinion of you remains the same.

 

[Mac1958]

My opinion of you remains the same.

Well, of course it does. That's how you're programmed. Binary thought processes. Us vs. Them, Good vs. Evil, all that stuff.
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[Unkotare]

I might even agree with you on the diagnosis that this place - say, its debate culture - is in freefall.

Since this is the only "social media" I've ever belonged to other than professional and science groups where everyone is polite, professional and capable of self-restraint, I cannot say, other than to say that many of the people here are shocking that they can ever hold jobs. As to your Left/Right thing, no, most of the intelligent reasonable discussion here comes from the Right. Most of the worst spin and trash talk comes from the Left. The difference is that when proven wrong, a good conservative will change his views and conceded your point, many on the Left here adamantly stridently anti-Trump NEVER do.

Ask one of the democrats if you can borrow their butthurt cream.

 

[Olde Europe]

Ask one of the democrats if you can borrow their butthurt cream.

Typical Republican. No empathy, no charity, and certainly none of your butthurt cream for him, eh?

 

[Unkotare]

Ask one of the democrats if you can borrow their butthurt cream.

Typical Republican. No empathy, no charity, ...?

Take another guess.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

You people all use THE SAME METHODS.

Many on the Left and the Right are just as bad as the other, use the exact same methods, and both act like stupid schoolchildren.

Middle of the Road Mac, is that you?

Conservatives dont speak in unison. We all have slightly different points of view. I consider myself VERY conservative and try to judge all things political as I believe the Founding Fathers would judge.

I dont agree 100% with all "conservatives," and I KNOW you all dont agree with me 100% (although you should), and I dont expect you to.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Oh I will and I do..............because you are a fraud.

Well, let's see.

A fraud would be a person who tries to deceive. That would mean you think I'm claiming to be something I'm not.

Go ahead. Back up your words. You can start by laying out what I'm claiming to be.
.

You claim to be this super moderator all the time........Trying to bring Peace to the sides but you always concentrate on the right side of the political spectrum. That is because you are a Liberal in heart.

You want us to appease the foaming at the mouth far left.......That dog don't hunt anymore. They can not be negotiated with anymore. That's my point.

Calling you a fraud is an opinion because I see you pandering to one side while demanding we do nothing to the violent actions of the left.

I "claim to be this super moderator all the time"? Really?

Yeah, that's never happened, and you know that. Well, maybe you do, who knows.

When wingers can't refute my points, they go after me personally. Happens all the time.

You see things as Left vs. Right. I see things as narcissistic wingers vs. the rest of us.

I'm guessing you have no idea what I'm talking about. None. But thanks for trying/lying.
.

Oh Baloney......I call you to the mat on these threads every time.......You slant one side period...........when you get called out you act like a pompus snob...........a liberal trait................

Wingers........when the left stops being violent to anyone who disagrees with them you get back to me. We have the right to defend our views and our ground if necessary........

Go to your buddies in the far left and tell them to not open Pandora's box.....They will not like it

As I've already said (who knows what you're capable of retaining), I lean Left. Yes. Definitely. Is that clear enough? Simple enough?

I guess somehow you "haven't seen" the thousands of times I went up against Regressive Leftists over PC, Identity Politics, and other issues.

That's okay.

Funny how you accuse me of being a fraud, and then you lie ("super moderator") to back up your words. I do love irony.
.

Another leftist trait.

THIS THREAD AINT ABOUT YOU.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

In being on this forum a few years now, I've noted that most of the total idiots are on the Left. But over time I've been surprised that some conservatives I thought were fairly intelligent and reasonable people go off into deep end just as badly with loony conspiracy theory about the Moon being hollow or even shooting a victim not just until they are subdued and helpless, not even stopping after they are down, but even continue firing into the person until they totally stop MOVING.

Let me start spraying you with 9mm fire and see if you just lay there unmoving not reacting to the pain or trying to protect yourself. If it is a .45, you might still move just from the hydrostatic shock.

BOTTOM LINE: Many on the Left ARE communist and socialist sympathizers who want anarchy and hate their country, but there are enough on the Left that are real bloodthirsty violent Neocons as well. I've even been stalked by a few.

What I've noticed is that while there are quite a few intelligent and reasonable people here, nearly all conservative, for many, when push comes to shove, when it really gets down to it, when a lot of conservatives or maybe republicans or "Right-Wing" disagree, their methods are NO BETTER than the worst on the Left.

You people all use THE SAME METHODS.

Many on the Left and the Right are just as bad as the other, use the exact same methods, and both act like stupid schoolchildren.

I'll entertain any intelligent discussion.

I notice most the White Supremacists on the right here. TBH I never encountered one in real life and that's the truth. Maybe they hide themselves...for good reason actually. It's shameful.

You would consider me a "white supremacist."

Tell me. Do you support a multicultural nation? Has anything good come of Ted Kennedy's 1965 CURSE? Are we better for it? Wheres the unity?

 

[Pete7469]

I'd like to see both sides grow up and act like adults. That's it.

That means listening, communicating, and working together.

Our wings behave in ways for which we would scold our children.
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Their "growing up and acting like adults" has given us Medicare/Medicaid, the Great Society welfare state, global military hegemony, an explosion in the expansion of the bureaucratic administrative state, DHS and the TSA, NSA spying, $21 trillion in debt.

If that's "acting like adults", gimmie some acting like children for a change.

Or at least admit the leftists have become children, and it's now illegal to spank them.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

There is no retreat.........no surrender at this point..........That's just the way it is now.

Well, that's the problem.

Some on both ends have been convinced to believe that this is essentially war. It isn't, of course. It's more about ego and tribalism.

Screaming and refusing to listen is much easier than dropping the ego and collaborating. This is a choice you're making.

There are some who believe that it has been so long since we communicated like adults, that we've literally lost the skill. I'd agree with that.
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BS........we ignored them for decades and they never stop.

You demand our side be tolerant when the other side tries intimidation, Character Assassinations, and the use of gov't agencies to destroy political opponents.

We are not the problem...........they are ..........They either become civilized or they will eventually run in to people who will not stand down.....or give a damn about their intimidation.

The Fact that they haven't been beaten down doing this shows that we have been tolerant............But there is a point to which it will no longer be tolerated.

You can only turn the cheek so many times..............Most of the violence in this country is in Population Centers.........Cities that are primarily blue............Not in rural areas...........and not in Red areas on the map.

At some point in time maybe you'll recognize that the violence and intolerance in this country is almost ALWAYS IN BLUE VOTING DISTRICTS.

I'd like to see both sides grow up and act like adults. That's it.

That means listening, communicating, and working together.

Our wings behave in ways for which we would scold our children.
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You see yourself as the "adult" in the room. You are a fool. Your foolishness is rooted in the fact that you are left-wing. You think those who disagree with the left should COMPROMISE.

How do you "compromise" with people who believe their own unborn children arent even human?

How do you compromise with those who deny your basic RIGHTS as defined by the Bill of Rights?

This IS a war, fool, and you are Tokyo Rose

 

[Third Party]

In being on this forum a few years now, I've noted that most of the total idiots are on the Left. But over time I've been surprised that some conservatives I thought were fairly intelligent and reasonable people go off into deep end just as badly with loony conspiracy theory about the Moon being hollow or even shooting a victim not just until they are subdued and helpless, not even stopping after they are down, but even continue firing into the person until they totally stop MOVING.

Let me start spraying you with 9mm fire and see if you just lay there unmoving not reacting to the pain or trying to protect yourself. If it is a .45, you might still move just from the hydrostatic shock.

BOTTOM LINE: Many on the Left ARE communist and socialist sympathizers who want anarchy and hate their country, but there are enough on the Left that are real bloodthirsty violent Neocons as well. I've even been stalked by a few.

What I've noticed is that while there are quite a few intelligent and reasonable people here, nearly all conservative, for many, when push comes to shove, when it really gets down to it, when a lot of conservatives or maybe republicans or "Right-Wing" disagree, their methods are NO BETTER than the worst on the Left.

You people all use THE SAME METHODS.

Many on the Left and the Right are just as bad as the other, use the exact same methods, and both act like stupid schoolchildren.

I'll entertain any intelligent discussion.

How about Centrists/Independents?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

In being on this forum a few years now, I've noted that most of the total idiots are on the Left. But over time I've been surprised that some conservatives I thought were fairly intelligent and reasonable people go off into deep end just as badly with loony conspiracy theory about the Moon being hollow or even shooting a victim not just until they are subdued and helpless, not even stopping after they are down, but even continue firing into the person until they totally stop MOVING.

Let me start spraying you with 9mm fire and see if you just lay there unmoving not reacting to the pain or trying to protect yourself. If it is a .45, you might still move just from the hydrostatic shock.

BOTTOM LINE: Many on the Left ARE communist and socialist sympathizers who want anarchy and hate their country, but there are enough on the Left that are real bloodthirsty violent Neocons as well. I've even been stalked by a few.

What I've noticed is that while there are quite a few intelligent and reasonable people here, nearly all conservative, for many, when push comes to shove, when it really gets down to it, when a lot of conservatives or maybe republicans or "Right-Wing" disagree, their methods are NO BETTER than the worst on the Left.

You people all use THE SAME METHODS.

Many on the Left and the Right are just as bad as the other, use the exact same methods, and both act like stupid schoolchildren.

I'll entertain any intelligent discussion.

How about Centrists/Independents?

They are NOT the same thing.

I dont call myself a Republican, but an INDEPENDENT. I am NOT a "centrist."

 

[Third Party]

In being on this forum a few years now, I've noted that most of the total idiots are on the Left. But over time I've been surprised that some conservatives I thought were fairly intelligent and reasonable people go off into deep end just as badly with loony conspiracy theory about the Moon being hollow or even shooting a victim not just until they are subdued and helpless, not even stopping after they are down, but even continue firing into the person until they totally stop MOVING.

Let me start spraying you with 9mm fire and see if you just lay there unmoving not reacting to the pain or trying to protect yourself. If it is a .45, you might still move just from the hydrostatic shock.

BOTTOM LINE: Many on the Left ARE communist and socialist sympathizers who want anarchy and hate their country, but there are enough on the Left that are real bloodthirsty violent Neocons as well. I've even been stalked by a few.

What I've noticed is that while there are quite a few intelligent and reasonable people here, nearly all conservative, for many, when push comes to shove, when it really gets down to it, when a lot of conservatives or maybe republicans or "Right-Wing" disagree, their methods are NO BETTER than the worst on the Left.

You people all use THE SAME METHODS.

Many on the Left and the Right are just as bad as the other, use the exact same methods, and both act like stupid schoolchildren.

I'll entertain any intelligent discussion.

How about Centrists/Independents?

They are NOT the same thing.

I dont call myself a Republican, but an INDEPENDENT. I am NOT a "centrist."

What are you then? Left, Right, Libertarian, a mix?