Could A Past President Become Vice President?

[EdwinAMartin]

The VP would only be an acting President, not an elected one, until another one was elected. I see no restrictions except re elections.

 

[Meathead]

Wrong.

The Constitution denies them only a third elected term. But it doesn’t deny them the role of becoming President (for two additional years) under those circumstances.

A person who is ineligible to become president is also ineligible to become VP. After serving 2 full terms, they are not eligible.

 

[Dante]

I've heard different answers for this. Me personally, I love Trump's policies but I'm sick and tired of his mouth. However, I wouldn't really complain if he could become vice president either. Although I'm really hoping for a Vance and Rubio ticket in 2028.

You've "heard different answers for this?" How very odd, strange, weird even. Why would anyone want to? Far too many reasonable statements we could make, but not sure we could keep our composure.

Think John Quincy Adams

Jackson administration, 1830–1836
U.S. House of Representatives (1830–1848)

Daguerreotype of Quincy Adams by Philip Haas, 1843

Wikipedia entries:

Adams considered permanently retiring from public life after his 1828 defeat, and he was deeply hurt by the suicide of his son, George Washington Adams, in 1829. He was appalled by many of the Jackson administration's actions, including its embrace of the spoils system and the prosecution of his close friend, Treasury Auditor Tobias Watkins, for embezzlement.

Though they had once maintained a cordial relationship, Adams and Jackson each came to loathe the other in the decades after the 1828 election. Adams grew bored with his retirement and still felt that his career was unfinished, so he ran for and won a seat in the United States House of Representatives in the 1830 elections. His election went against the generally held opinion, shared by his own wife and youngest son, that former presidents should not run for public office.

Nonetheless, he would win election to nine terms, serving from 1831 until his death in 1848. Adams and Andrew Johnson are the only former presidents to serve in Congress.

After winning election, Adams became affiliated with the Anti-Masonic Party, partly because the National Republican Party's leadership in Massachusetts included many of the former Federalists that Adams had clashed with earlier in his career.

The Anti-Masonic Party originated as a movement against Freemasonry, but it developed into the country's first third party and embraced a general program of anti-elitism.

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The Constitution denies them only a third elected term. But it doesn’t deny them the role of becoming President (for two additional years) under those circumstances.

The National Constitution Center serves as America’s leading platform for constitutional education and debate.

Two-Term Limit on Presidency
Section 1
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

Section 2
This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.

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"The US Constitution does state that: a US Vice President can serve out a partial term of two years or less (acting as President) and then run for election to two full four-year presidential terms. This is allowed under the 22nd Amendment, which caps total service at 10 years (two years of a predecessor's term + two elected terms"
[URL='https://termlimits.com/how-long-can-the-u-s-president-serve-in-office/']How long can the U.S. President Serve in Office?

• The 22nd Amendment’s key provision:
  • It states that “no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of President more than once.”
• What this means:
  • If a vice president (or another successor) takes over the presidency and serves more than two years of the previous president’s term, they are then only eligible to be elected to the presidency one additional time.

No if they already served 2 terms.

Toddsterpatriot "No, if they already served 2 terms." B-in-g-o! Technically correct, because nobody would be President and then VP who then fills in @ years before running for President again. That scenario is extremely improbable. So, a VP who serves filling-in for two years, only gets to run for two full terms after.

 

[Dante]

This has to be one of the weirdest back and forth on something that resembles a sophomoric circle jerk, rather than a real, true conversation/debate on the roles, term limits imposed by the USC, and the realities of politics.
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The gay black guy, Slick Willie and W are ineligible to become VP because they cannot be president in accordance with the Constitution. If they don't assassinate Trump by 1/20/27, he would be ineligible.

Come to think of it, if they assassinate Trump at any time, he would be ineligible.

"If they?" What "they?" and What "he?"

Wrong.

The Constitution denies them only a third elected term. But it doesn’t deny them the role of becoming President (for two additional years) under those circumstances.

"Those circumstances? wtf? Taking that scenario seriously is the height of imbecility

A person who is ineligible to become president is also ineligible to become VP. After serving 2 full terms, they are not eligible

Stating opinion as fact is...

Well it's what we all expect of you.

Whether a two-term U.S. president can serve as Vice President (VP) is a debated legal question, but they likely cannot. While the 22nd Amendment only explicitly limits presidential terms, the 12th Amendment states that no person "constitutionally ineligible to the office of President" can be VP, creating a likely prohibition on twice-elected presidents.

This has to be one of the weirdest back and forth on something that resembles a sophomoric circle jerk, rather than a real, true conversation/debate on the roles, term limits imposed by the USC, and the realities of politics.

 

[Meathead]

This has to be one of the weirdest back and forth on something that resembles a sophomoric circle jerk, rather than a real, true conversation/debate on the roles, term limits imposed by the USC, and the realities of politics.
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"If they?" What "they?" and What "he?"



"Those circumstances? wtf? Taking that scenario seriously is the height of imbecility



Stating opinion as fact is...

Well it's what we all expect of you.


This has to be one of the weirdest back and forth on something that resembles a sophomoric circle jerk, rather than a real, true conversation/debate on the roles, term limits imposed by the USC, and the realities of politics.

I defer to Dante on "sophomoric circle jerks" as he should know. Note that I referred to Dante in the third-person, in other words and idiot.

 

[Dante]

I defer to Dante on "sophomoric circle jerks" as he should know. Note that I referred to Dante in the third-person, in other words and idiot.

You are getting better at this? Who are you flattering here with imitation?

 

[Meathead]

You are getting better at this? Who are you flattering here with imitation?

Puny

 

[Moonglow]

I've heard different answers for this. Me personally, I love Trump's policies but I'm sick and tired of his mouth. However, I wouldn't really complain if he could become vice president either. Although I'm really hoping for a Vance and Rubio ticket in 2028.

No.

 

[Moonglow]

Whoa,... You mean that you don't bow down and worship at Trump's feet and you can ACTUALLY insult him?

He insulted yous.

 

[ChristisKing]

He insulted yous.

No he didn't.

 

[BackAgain]

The VP would only be an acting President, not an elected one, until another one was elected. I see no restrictions except re elections.

No. If the 25th is invoked, the VP becomes literally “Acting President.”

But if the incumbent dies in office, the VP becomes the President.

 

[Alicia J]

I've heard different answers for this. Me personally, I love Trump's policies but I'm sick and tired of his mouth. However, I wouldn't really complain if he could become vice president either. Although I'm really hoping for a Vance and Rubio ticket in 2028.

If a President served only 1 term, I don't see any reason why he couldn't be VP. He just wouldn't be allowed to be President more than 1 term (if he became President again).

 

[DonGlock26]

 

[ChristisKing]

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Loving it but you need to flip it.

 

[DonGlock26]

Loving it but you need to flip it.

 

[Muhammed]

Whether a two-term president can become Vice President is a debated legal question with no definitive answer, as it has never been tested in court. While the 22nd Amendment prohibits being elected president more than twice, some argue this does not disqualify a former president from holding the VP office, while others argue the 12th Amendment prevents anyone ineligible to be president from serving as VP. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Key Perspectives and Nuances:

• The 22nd Amendment: Specifies that "no person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice".
• The 12th Amendment:States that "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States".
  • The Argument for Eligibility: Some legal scholars, such as Dan T. Coenen, argue that a two-term president can become vice president through election or appointment and could even, theoretically, succeed to the presidency again, provided they are not elected to the office a third time.
  • The Argument Against Eligibility: Many legal analysts argue that because a two-term president is ineligible to be elected to a third term, they are "ineligible to the office of President," and therefore barred from the vice presidency by the 12th Amendment. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]

There's a legal loophole.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

No. If the 25th is invoked, the VP becomes literally “Acting President.”

But if the incumbent dies in office, the VP becomes the President.

Which is not the same as running for the office of President and getting elected. There is nothing to prevent one from getting elected VP any number of times.

 

[Robert W]

I've heard different answers for this. Me personally, I love Trump's policies but I'm sick and tired of his mouth. However, I wouldn't really complain if he could become vice president either. Although I'm really hoping for a Vance and Rubio ticket in 2028.

Vance for president and Rubio for VP are excellent choices.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Vance for president and Rubio for VP are excellent choices.

I prefer Rubio over Vance, but both are going to be much better than whatever commie pervert Democrats run.

With the looming collapse of the Cuban communist gangster regime, and thus yet another heartbreak for Democrats, it would be cool if Rubio was President when it falls if it manages to outlast Trump.

 

[toobfreak]

Could A Past President Become Vice President?​

I think the answer is no, because a President can only serve two terms and a VP must be eligible and prepared at any moment to assume the Office of the President.

I love Trump's policies but I'm sick and tired of his mouth.

I've given thought to the same matter, it has been a Trump Trademark for many years, that said:

1. He knows he is a lamb-duck president in his 6th year, and just doesn't care because he has no intention to run again, and is just venting now for what was done to him starting 2018 all through his 4 years out of office. Can't say I much blame him.
2. I try to look past that at whether he still seems to be doing the right things, and it seems he is.
3. For the most part, things have worked out pretty well for him.
4. My focus now is on this announced trip to China.

However, I wouldn't really complain if he could become vice president either. Although I'm really hoping for a Vance and Rubio ticket in 2028.

I'm pretty sure by the time his term is done, Donald will be content to take a backseat position to politics and pursue some personal and business ambitions.

As far as Vance and Rubio is concerned, Vance seems more demonstrative and glib (Happy to know you), while Marco is more nuts and bolts, all business, facts, I like that a lot, so I think either/both should/could run for Exec in '28.

And I think I'd be pretty happy with either, unless a miracle happens in the democrat party.