Corrupt Judges Who Should Be REMOVED

[Nosmo King]

The point is your right to keep and bear arms is already infringed. Some weapons are just not appropriate for use in our society.

I disagree. The RKBA is not about hunting, or fending off the home intruder. It is about the MILITIA (all able bodied citizens) fending off an invading army, and for THAT reason, you cannot restrict the weapons that citizens may own.

"Oh ... Bob across the street owns a Bazooka, and a belt fed 60 caliber rifle! We should report him! I am SCARED!"

It doesn't matter WHAT Bob owns, as a free citizen of the United States. Bob is not a threat to society by the guns he owns, any more than Jim is a threat, because he owns a very powerful sports car.

When someone kills 80+ at a concert with a Jaguar or holds up a liquor store with a Lamboughi let us know.

 

[Nosmo King]

What was the body count in Dayton in 33 seconds of gunfire?

You would not like my answer.

What answer?

 

[Kentucky_Conservative]

Why don't you ask all the law abiding citizens of MA what they have been doing for the last 21 years.

Me I use my brain, most gun deaths are from someone you know, drug deals gone bad, mass shootings, accidents and suicides.

Why don't you answer the question?

Yes most gun deaths are from drug deals gone wrong, gang 'one-upsmanship', suicides, accidents and so forth. So knowing this, you should be in favor of private gun ownership and both open and concealed carry (read: Constitutional carry) for the average citizen, since no one can know when they may encounter one of the dangerous citizens who is carrying a gun and out looking for trouble.

Do you favor private citizens carrying guns for self-defense Penelope?

 

[Kentucky_Conservative]

It doesn't matter WHAT Bob owns, as a free citizen of the United States. Bob is not a threat to society by the guns he owns, any more than Jim is a threat, because he owns a very powerful sports car.

When someone kills 80+ at a concert with a Jaguar or holds up a liquor store with a Lamboughi let us know.

Somehow, I just knew you would miss the point.

 

[Nosmo King]

It doesn't matter WHAT Bob owns, as a free citizen of the United States. Bob is not a threat to society by the guns he owns, any more than Jim is a threat, because he owns a very powerful sports car.

When someone kills 80+ at a concert with a Jaguar or holds up a liquor store with a Lamboughi let us know.

Somehow, I just knew you would miss the point.

Your point is the gun is a benign object. A tool, if you will. The crisis of gun violence we are facing is the result of insane individuals.

But that begs the question; is America preternaturally insane? Is there a fluke of genetics resulting in a greater dispensation in Americans for quick and easy Ramboesque violence? Why are other western nations immune to his malady?

Or is it American society as it collides with corporate lobbyists and manufacturers? Has politics become more beholding to their position than the people who put them there. No Profiles in Courage among legislators in someone else's pocket.

 

[skews13]

From Gunpowder Magazine ...

"In a sad turn of events, U.S. District Court Judge William Young has issued a ruling that upholds Massachusetts’ ban on AR-15s and large-capacity magazines.

His reasoning? He says AR-15s are NOT protected by the 2nd Amendment (!!). He wrote:

“The AR-15 and its analogs, along with large capacity magazines, are simply not weapons within the original meaning of the individual constitutional right to ‘bear arms’.”

This old news, but it highlights the dangers in keeping corrupt judges seated in positions of power.

To be clear, I agree with the judge.

To be clear. So did Justice Antonin Scalia, that issued the majority opinion in Heller v DC.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Then you don't know much about private arms in the Revolutionary War era either, I take it.

Where did colonists go to buy their arsenals? Ye Olde Wal*Mart?

There were no gun factories, no mass production. Guns were bespoke, handmade devices. And, as a result, expensive. Do you think there was a musket above every mantelpiece? A pistol in every pocket? Who could afford guns?

I'm missing what that has to do with the Second, and the right to bear arms.

Is nearing a howitzer a protected right? A mortar? A grenade launcher? Is the right to own a Thompson sub-machine gun an uninfringed right?

Some weapons are just too much of a legitimate threat to public health and safety. It is not unreasonable to classify a weapon like the AR-15 fitted with a high capacity magazine with such weaponry.

Some weapons are just too much of a legitimate threat to public health and safety. It is not unreasonable to classify a weapon like the AR-15 fitted with a high capacity magazine with such weaponry.

How many of these weapons are in the hands of 'civilians'?

How many have been used to commit crimes, robbery, murder, etc, in the last 30-40 years?

Is it any more dangerous than a handgun?

But they're black and scary looking...and it's a good start on the way to grab the next scary group of guns.

let's have some fun. Why does an AR-15 look like it does.

It's designed for an 18 year old kid in combat with little training to get as many rounds on target as possible in the shortest amount of time faster than his enemy. The kid is pumped up on adrenile, scared shitless and prone to make mistakes.

So we design the gun so that the changing of the mag is simple, involves no brainer, just touch a button, it falls out, you push in another mag, hit a charging button and keep right on firing. Wash, Rinse and repeat as necessary.

You don't need any frills or thrills so we leave those out. That's extra weight and extra cost. And you add rails to add a lot of accessories if you feel you need them. But make sure you keep it so they just slide in place. Remember, it's combat and you don't need to complicate things.

So you now have the perfect killing weapon that has no features other than fast, easy operation, and idiot proof. Why? Because you need it for the battle field to defeat your enemy.

Yes, it can do other things. But so can my Crescent Wrench. If I just need to hammer something once and all I have is my crescent wrench, do I really need to go back to the shop and get my hammer or can I use my crescent wrench to hammer in the pin? Does that make my crescent wrench an Assault Hammer?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

When the LEFT drags out the old "Tanks and Nuclear Missiles" argument, they are being patently dishonest.

The founding documents CLEARLY indicate that a citizen of the United States has the Constitutional Right to carry a weapon equal in firepower and capability to that which is carried "by the common foot soldier." Today's soldiers do not carry nuclear missiles in their backpacks.

When the soldiers carried muskets, the citizens carried muskets. When the soldier carries an M-16 fully automatic rifle, the citizen is ALSO allowed to carry an M-16 fully automatic rifle, but for the liberals who have bastardized the Bill of Rights to mean something entirely different.

The purpose of an armed citizenry was for the citizens of this country to have the ability to resist an invading army (not tanks and missiles and nuclear weapons) and though I believe a liberal will NEVER be honest, if he were honest, he would have to agree that this is the sum of the founding documents.

Of course, the Left does not teach history with facts. They teach it with opinions and emotions, and there is an agenda behind their efforts to erase history.

The AR15 is HATED among the Left, because they have focused on this gun as their evil nemesis. However, there are many sport and hunting rifles that fire the exact same round, at the exact same speed, with the exact same accuracy as the AR15.

What the Left is NOT telling you is .. THEY KNOW THIS, and once the AR15 is banned and confiscated, the next step will be to go after all of the other guns that can match an AR15's killing power. They won't tell you this YET, because the Left can never be honest about anything it does.

yes, if a gun can match the AR in the shear killing power of human beings then, yes, it should be in the same class. The AR is in a class of it's own because it is designed from the ground up for mass killing. And it was designed that way back in the 50s and it hasn't changed one bit since then. In fact, I can have the original AR-15 Model 601 that was sold to Maylasia and the United States Air Force long before the Army purchased the M-16 and I can use the same parts off the M-16A4. It was built for a specific task and only one specific task and it was built perfect. And that task was for mass killing in a Military World. If you believe that the Civilian AR-15 is different than the Military M-16 you would be wrong. There are only about 2 or 3 parts that are different and those determine whether it can fire only semi auto or 3 shot burst. All the other parts are completely interchangeable including the Barrels, Chamber and Bolt. In a real life Urban combat situation, there are models of the Civilian AR-15 that are superior to the M-16A4 or even the M-4 according to some of the "Experts" who have tested them. But it doesn't have to do with speed, reloading, or any of that. It has to do with the fact that you can use custom parts like sights, stocks and such that makes the custom AR a faster weapon to bring to bear. Other than that, in an Urban setting, you won't be using 3 shot burst at all. And NO production M-16s currently are full autos since the M-16A2 was discontinued decades ago.

There is a very good reason it looks like it does and it has nothing to do with "It's Scary" or it's "Black". It all has to do with it's function. And there is nothing left over for anything other than function. This is why even the ones that they keep trying to replace it with look externally very similar to the AR-15.

 

[Kentucky_Conservative]

yes, if a gun can match the AR in the shear killing power of human beings then, yes, it should be in the same class.

So ... Do you believe that American citizens should NOT have ANY means to resist an invading force, or a corrupt government? If the Government decides to thrust Socialism upon us (Bernie Sanders - Elizabeth Warren - Hillary Clinton et. al.) which will ultimately lead to Communism, should we just roll over and take it in the rectum?

The AR is in a class of it's own because it is designed from the ground up for mass killing. And it was designed that way back in the 50s and it hasn't changed one bit since then. In fact, I can have the original AR-15 Model 601 that was sold to Maylasia and the United States Air Force long before the Army purchased the M-16 and I can use the same parts off the M-16A4. It was built for a specific task and only one specific task and it was built perfect. And that task was for mass killing in a Military World. If you believe that the Civilian AR-15 is different than the Military M-16 you would be wrong. There are only about 2 or 3 parts that are different and those determine whether it can fire only semi auto or 3 shot burst. All the other parts are completely interchangeable including the Barrels, Chamber and Bolt. In a real life Urban combat situation, there are models of the Civilian AR-15 that are superior to the M-16A4 or even the M-4 according to some of the "Experts" who have tested them. But it doesn't have to do with speed, reloading, or any of that. It has to do with the fact that you can use custom parts like sights, stocks and such that makes the custom AR a faster weapon to bring to bear. Other than that, in an Urban setting, you won't be using 3 shot burst at all. And NO production M-16s currently are full autos since the M-16A2 was discontinued decades ago.

Which part of the AR15 forces its owners to abandon all reason and just go out and kill people?

There is a very good reason it looks like it does and it has nothing to do with "It's Scary" or it's "Black". It all has to do with it's function. And there is nothing left over for anything other than function. This is why even the ones that they keep trying to replace it with look externally very similar to the AR-15.

Again, regardless of the origin of the AR platform, it is GOOD firearm for general use, home defense, hunting, target shooting, and offering some resistance to an oppressive invading force.

Please clarify your position. Do you believe Americans SHOULD, or SHOULD NOT have access to effective firearms such as the AR15?

 

[Kentucky_Conservative]

Your point is the gun is a benign object. A tool, if you will. The crisis of gun violence we are facing is the result of insane individuals.

Nope. Most definitely, my point is that these shootings are fake, and designed to sway public opinion about private firearm ownership but more importantly, to sway the opinions of POLITICIANS and JUDGES who are going to make votes and enact laws based on their knee-jerk reactions to these LIES. Not one single judge or politician can honestly claim to have invested any time into finding out if these "Breaking News!" stories are REAL. They just hear about them as they are spewed by the sock puppets in the MSM (including FOX) and then leap in front of cameras to assure their VOTERS that they are going to do something about this.

But that begs the question; is America preternaturally insane? Is there a fluke of genetics resulting in a greater dispensation in Americans for quick and easy Ramboesque violence? Why are other western nations immune to his malady?

BEWARE the "mental illness" slippery slope that everyone seems to be tripping over each other to slide down on their bare asses. Once you give some asshole the power to decide whether or not YOU are "mentally ill", you give them Carte Blanche to decide whether YOUR beliefs are in line with theirs. This means, if you believe in God, and the people charged with the responsibility to decide whether or not you are mentally SANE conclude that you are mentally ILL because you believe in an invisible creator, guess what ... YOU don't get to own guns!

Or is it American society as it collides with corporate lobbyists and manufacturers? Has politics become more beholding to their position than the people who put them there. No Profiles in Courage among legislators in someone else's pocket.

Americans have given away FAR too much power to others who are now presumed to have the authority to decide how you will raise your kids, what you eat or drink, where you live, what you worship, and so much more.

 

[Nosmo King]

Your point is the gun is a benign object. A tool, if you will. The crisis of gun violence we are facing is the result of insane individuals.

Nope. Most definitely, my point is that these shootings are fake, and designed to sway public opinion about private firearm ownership but more importantly, to sway the opinions of POLITICIANS and JUDGES who are going to make votes and enact laws based on their knee-jerk reactions to these LIES. Not one single judge or politician can honestly claim to have invested any time into finding out if these "Breaking News!" stories are REAL. They just hear about them as they are spewed by the sock puppets in the MSM (including FOX) and then leap in front of cameras to assure their VOTERS that they are going to do something about this.

But that begs the question; is America preternaturally insane? Is there a fluke of genetics resulting in a greater dispensation in Americans for quick and easy Ramboesque violence? Why are other western nations immune to his malady?

BEWARE the "mental illness" slippery slope that everyone seems to be tripping over each other to slide down on their bare asses. Once you give some asshole the power to decide whether or not YOU are "mentally ill", you give them Carte Blanche to decide whether YOUR beliefs are in line with theirs. This means, if you believe in God, and the people charged with the responsibility to decide whether or not you are mentally SANE conclude that you are mentally ILL because you believe in an invisible creator, guess what ... YOU don't get to own guns!

Or is it American society as it collides with corporate lobbyists and manufacturers? Has politics become more beholding to their position than the people who put them there. No Profiles in Courage among legislators in someone else's pocket.

Americans have given away FAR too much power to others who are now presumed to have the authority to decide how you will raise your kids, what you eat or drink, where you live, what you worship, and so much more.

You think these shootings are fake? Based on what? Funerals, first responders? Hospitalizations?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

yes, if a gun can match the AR in the shear killing power of human beings then, yes, it should be in the same class.

So ... Do you believe that American citizens should NOT have ANY means to resist an invading force, or a corrupt government? If the Government decides to thrust Socialism upon us (Bernie Sanders - Elizabeth Warren - Hillary Clinton et. al.) which will ultimately lead to Communism, should we just roll over and take it in the rectum?

The AR is in a class of it's own because it is designed from the ground up for mass killing. And it was designed that way back in the 50s and it hasn't changed one bit since then. In fact, I can have the original AR-15 Model 601 that was sold to Maylasia and the United States Air Force long before the Army purchased the M-16 and I can use the same parts off the M-16A4. It was built for a specific task and only one specific task and it was built perfect. And that task was for mass killing in a Military World. If you believe that the Civilian AR-15 is different than the Military M-16 you would be wrong. There are only about 2 or 3 parts that are different and those determine whether it can fire only semi auto or 3 shot burst. All the other parts are completely interchangeable including the Barrels, Chamber and Bolt. In a real life Urban combat situation, there are models of the Civilian AR-15 that are superior to the M-16A4 or even the M-4 according to some of the "Experts" who have tested them. But it doesn't have to do with speed, reloading, or any of that. It has to do with the fact that you can use custom parts like sights, stocks and such that makes the custom AR a faster weapon to bring to bear. Other than that, in an Urban setting, you won't be using 3 shot burst at all. And NO production M-16s currently are full autos since the M-16A2 was discontinued decades ago.

Which part of the AR15 forces its owners to abandon all reason and just go out and kill people?

There is a very good reason it looks like it does and it has nothing to do with "It's Scary" or it's "Black". It all has to do with it's function. And there is nothing left over for anything other than function. This is why even the ones that they keep trying to replace it with look externally very similar to the AR-15.

Again, regardless of the origin of the AR platform, it is GOOD firearm for general use, home defense, hunting, target shooting, and offering some resistance to an oppressive invading force.

Please clarify your position. Do you believe Americans SHOULD, or SHOULD NOT have access to effective firearms such as the AR15?

I believe that you should have a gun suited for the job. If I need a hammer, I should have a hammer. If I need a 1/2 inch open end wrench I should have a 1/2 open end wrench. If I need a crow bar, I should have a crow bar. But I can do most of these things with a Crescent Wrench. Does that mean that this justifies me having a crescent wrench? No. Only if I need the specific needs of a crescent wrench. The Hammer does a better job as a hammer. The wrench does a better job as a wrench and the crow bar does a better job as a crow bar.

Same goes with the AR-15. Yes, it can varmint hunt but so can A host of other rifles for equal or less and you get top quality as well. Here are some that are listed as the best. BTW, the AR-15 doesn't make ANY if the best Serious Varmint Rifle Lists.

Remington Model 783 Bolt Action Comes with a good 4X scope and a Nylon Stock. You can get it in 4 calibers including the .223 This is one of the Best Buys out there.

Remington Model 700 Varmint SF Bolt Action. This one is a Name Your Own Caliber from the 223, 22-250, 243, 7mm, 308, 30.06 and even more. It ain't cheap. It's the caddy of the varmint rifles.

Ruger 77/22 Another Varmint Rifle of top quality equal to or cheaper than the cheapest AR-15 pieces of junk. It comes in most of the 22 caliber including the 22 hornet and 22 swifts as well as the 223. Bolt action. For the price, it is extreme accurate and long ranged.

Savage 110 Varmint This has to be the best buy of all the varmint rifles. It costs less than 300 bucks, is long ranged, comes in the popular 22 caliber sized like the 223 and a few more. If the 223 isn't horse enough you do have the option to buy it in the 22-250 which is a real workhorse. It's well built and should last for decades without showing wear. You can't even buy a junker AR new for what this one costs and, for sure, your junker AR can't even come close to the quality nor the accuracy. Yes, it's bolt action. But take it from a shooter, one shot, one kill.

Winchester Model 70 Coyote Light. We just stepped into the Rolls Royce on this one. Forget the Cost. it's still cheaper than many AR-15s though at less than 1000 bucks. But this puppy tops the list. No, it does not come in 223. But considering it only comes in 22.250 who the hell cares. You want a real 400 yd ranged 22 caliber, here it is.

When you list these guns, the AR-15 becomes the assault crescent wrench when you need a varmint gun or just need a hammer. As for home defense, first choice is always a shotgun. Second choice is a handgun with either a 5 or a 7 inch barrel. Or any handgun you have at the time, even a lowly 380 or even a tiny 25 or a 22 lr. The last thing you need is an AR. But if that is all you got........ But if that is all you got you are an idiot and probably shouldn't own a gun in the first place.

 

[Kentucky_Conservative]

You think these shootings are fake? Based on what? Funerals, first responders? Hospitalizations?

Based on YEARS of research I have done on them.

 

[Nosmo King]

You think these shootings are fake? Based on what? Funerals, first responders? Hospitalizations?

Based on YEARS of research I have done on them.

As my sixth grade math teacher, Mrs. Futhey would say, show your work.