Consumer Confidence number 2nd lowest ever.

[Luckyone]

Triggered? The 2022 technical recession (two quarters of negative GDP) was the closest Biden came to an official recession. By 2024, economic weakness due to inflation fueled pessimism in the economy.

You're very welcome.

Here is the GDP growth for the past 18 years, including the first quarter of this year when GDP was -.03%

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The last two red lines were Trump.

14.8% UE rate was the motivation for the long red line, all due to Trump.

 

[Shamrock17]

Here is the GDP growth for the past 18 years, including the first quarter of this year when GDP was -.03%

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How does that change what I wrote above? With that asked, you do realize the economy contracted in 2020 because of the global Covid Pandemic, right?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

How does that change what I wrote above? With that asked, you do realize the economy contracted in 2020 because of the global Covid Pandemic, right?

Yes, Trump mismanaged Covid.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The last two red lines were Trump.

14.8% UE rate was the motivation for the long red line, all due to Trump.

The blue line after the two red lines was also Trump.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes, Trump mismanaged Covid.

Xenophobic?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The blue line after the two red lines was also Trump.

Just barely. He is not a failure, but Biden was far more successful.

 

[Luckyone]

How does that change what I wrote above? With that asked, you do realize the economy contracted in 2020 because of the global Covid Pandemic, right?

yes, you said it = "because of a global Covid Pandemic".

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Xenophobic?

No, just realistic.

 

[Shamrock17]

yes, you said it = "because of a global Covid Pandemic".

I know what I wrote. Having a hard time admitting the contraction wasn't Trump's fault? Just write the truth for a change.

 

[Robert W]

The Consumer Confidence number was released today at 10:00am and it was the 2nd lowest EVER. Last month's number was 52.2 and it was expected this month's number was going to be better (expected at 55) but it came in at 50.8.

YES of course. The USA is still living with the Biden final budget.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

YES of course. The USA is still living with the Biden final budget.

What a stupid statement, as we are overtowered by the coming Trump budget.

Your mental decline is showing more every day, Bob.

 

[Robert W]

Just barely. He is not a failure, but Biden was far more successful.

1. More COVID-19 deaths occurred under Biden than Trump:

• As of September 2024, the majority of the total 1.2 million COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. had occurred during Biden's presidency.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

1. More COVID-19 deaths occurred under Biden than Trump:

• As of September 2024, the majority of the total 1.2 million COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. had occurred during Biden's presidency.

Bob, listen. Trump had 12 months of it, Biden had 48 months.

Trump had about 33,000 a month and Biden about 13,000 a month.

Yes, you are no longer mentally acute.

 

[Meister]

Look, what Trump has done with tariffs is considered a bad way of doing things. Reagan said it and almost every economist that I have ever heard or read have said the same thing. Trump is not using his head and "in my opinion", he did not get Xi to do anything. It was Trump backing off because of the response he got to the tariffs on China going up to 145% and China raising theirs to 125%.

Trump is the one that wanted to fix the problem he created. Xi simply went along because it made economic sense. Nonetheless, he made it very clear that he was not going to back down from a fight. He is not a liar and Trump is, meaning I believe what Xi said and don't believe Trump's lie that it was Xi that asked to talk about a tariff solution.

The excuse given by Trump that this raising and then lowering the tariffs was a plan all along, is bullshit. Trump went overboard and the response from all Americans (including many of his own supporters) scared the hell out of him and he flip-flopped, which is something he has done many times before.

Xi is an Autocrat and a VERY strong one that will not back off and cower as he would be thrown out by his own people if he ever did that. If you know anything about Chinese culture, is that they do not believe in any kind of weakness.

This was all Trump backing down

Thanks for your opinion, slugger. By the way, stock market analysts are like dime a dozen.
They all have THEIR opinion.
Trump had stated what his intentions were prior to the tariffs. He stated it was a negotiating chip.

 

[Robert W]

What a stupid statement, as we are overtowered by the coming Trump budget.

Your mental decline is showing more every day, Bob.

I have not insulted you yet but thanks to that, I plan to lay you out.
The coming budget by Trump can't impact us since it is not even approved yet. You crossed a line by attacking me again. Mental health is on your mind. My mind per my doctors works excellent.

 

[Robert W]

Bob, listen. Trump had 12 months of it, Biden had 48 months.

Trump had about 33,000 a month and Biden about 13,000 a month.

Yes, you are no longer mentally acute.

Biden did not suffer due to the initial infection. And Biden enjoyed the Trump vaccines.

 

[Luckyone]

Thanks for your opinion, slugger. By the way, stock market analysts are like dime a dozen.
They all have THEIR opinion.
Trump had stated what his intentions were prior to the tariffs. He stated it was a negotiating chip.

and you always believe what he says, right?

 

[Robert W]

Look, what Trump has done with tariffs is considered a bad way of doing things. Reagan said it and almost every economist that I have ever heard or read have said the same thing. Trump is not using his head and "in my opinion", he did not get Xi to do anything. It was Trump backing off because of the response he got to the tariffs on China going up to 145% and China raising theirs to 125%.

Trump is the one that wanted to fix the problem he created. Xi simply went along because it made economic sense. Nonetheless, he made it very clear that he was not going to back down from a fight. He is not a liar and Trump is, meaning I believe what Xi said and don't believe Trump's lie that it was Xi that asked to talk about a tariff solution.

The excuse given by Trump that this raising and then lowering the tariffs was a plan all along, is bullshit. Trump went overboard and the response from all Americans (including many of his own supporters) scared the hell out of him and he flip-flopped, which is something he has done many times before.

Xi is an Autocrat and a VERY strong one that will not back off and cower as he would be thrown out by his own people if he ever did that. If you know anything about Chinese culture, is that they do not believe in any kind of weakness.

This was all Trump backing down

What an expression of love for XI!!!!! WOW!!!!!

 

[Luckyone]

YES of course. The USA is still living with the Biden final budget.

Of course, how stupid of me