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Constitutional Attorneys On FBI Raid at Mar-a-Lago: ‘The FBI had no legally valid cause for the raid’

BULLDOG

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Did I?
Please quote the post where I allegedly posted that statement.
If you say you didn't personally claim that nobody would vote for Biden the first time, then I'm not going to bother arguing with you. I'll appologize for my mistake and note that you must be one of the very few crazy right wingers that didn't. That was a common remark from your nutbag, conspiracy theory crowd at the time. You crazies all seem to share the same talking points.
 

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You said if he runs again -- not if he wins the presidency again. He can't just declare info declassified. He's not president now.
Runs and wins, Einstein - read it again.
 

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You said nobody would vote for Biden the first time. What happened?
What happened?

4 years (6 now) of seditious insurrection by the terrorist cult known as the Democrat Party.
 

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What happened?

4 years (6 now) of seditious insurrection by the terrorist cult known as the Democrat Party.
So you're one of those crazies that think trump-o has gained supporters. Nope. He's already got all the crazies he's gonna get, The opposition to him is growing every day, though.
 

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You’re fantasizing again. Did you hear that in one of your imaginary court rooms again?

The PRA gives THE GOVERNMENT ownership over presidential records. The current administration cannot be deprived of access to former administration documents. It wouldn’t make any sense to attempt to do so. That’s why the PRA creates the ability to use the DoJ to take records back.
You mean because Trump had all his document handwritten by Franciscan Friars?

You tools are so useless
 

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This is what happens to people when their minds are controlled by a cult. Presidents are not allowed to take things from the Whitehouse when the leave and this POS took our secrets home. Did he steal top secret documents to hide his criminal activity or sell them? It doesn`t matter. It`s a crime.
Who`s in charge of the GQP today? Trump or Putin?
 

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Making things up is your wheelhouse... I deal in facts I can prove. Just because you don't acknowledge the facts does not mean they do not exist.
Okay. Prove that Trump’s lawyers were in court showing the judge the PRA and the DoJ lawyers were speechless.

Like you claimed.
 

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So the statutes the DoJ/FBI used in its application for the warrant do not apply.

The DoJ ad FBI are criminal enterprises and both need to be abolished and new, sleeker agencies formed.



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Lee Casey and David Rivkin, who both served under Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H W Bush, wrote that a former president’s right under the Presidential Records Act supersedes statutes the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the FBI used to raid Trump’s home.
From the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday:
Judge Bruce Reinhart, the federal magistrate who approved the search warrant, and who hates Trump and should have recused himself, unsealed the warrant and property receipt earlier this month and it was revealed that it allowed the FBI to seize all “physical documents and records constituting evidence, contraband, fruits of crime, or other items illegally possessed in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§793, 2071, or 1519.”
The materials that could be seized by the warrant included “any government and/or Presidential Records created between January 20, 2017, and January 20, 2021.” So, they wanted everything from the day Trump was inaugurated to the day he left office, which narrows it down as to what they wanted to find, which was documented evidence of Operation Crossfire Hurricane, the illegal spying on Trump’s campaign in 2016.
According to the two legal scholars, “virtually all the materials at Mar-a-Lago are likely to fall within this category” but “federal law gives Mr. Trump a right of access to them.”
That 1978 law “lays out detailed requirements for how the archivist is to administer the records, handle privilege claims, make the records public, and impose restrictions on access,” they added. “Notably, it doesn’t address the process by which a former president’s records are physically to be turned over to the archivist, or set any deadline, leaving this matter to be negotiated between the archivist and the former president.”
The two wrote that once the DOJ and FBI were satisfied after Trump agreed to their additional padlock to be installed on the Mar-a-Lago storage room where the former president kept the documents, the two agencies should have “sought a less intrusive” way to see the documents than a search warrant and an FBI raid.
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Just because they have a opinion that supports Trump does not mean they are right. They have a opinion. There is absolutely no reason for the magistrate to recuse himself as there is no proof he is anti-Trump. Just because he rules against Trump does not make him biased. The FBI tried to do this in a non-intrusive way and they found that Trump was holding out on them. They called Trump's bluff.
 

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Somehow I doubt their opinion is going to matter. These thugs will do ANYTHING IT TAKES to keep him from being re-elected. They know he won in 2020 and they know they cannot cheat in the same way again so they know he'll win if he runs.

We know that you are another Trump idiot. The thugs worship Trump.
 

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Trump has an excellent case for the violation of his 4th Amendment Rights.
Gestapo Chief Garland was going to be a supreme court judge, but he doesn't even understand basic constitutional law.
The Democrats are creating a police state where they can just do anything that they want.

Trump does not have a excellent case. He has a very poor case. Apparently that horse that kicked you in the face also kicked you in the brain.
Neither you or Trump have a clue about constitutional law.
It is Republicans who are attacking voting rights, free speech rights and other rights.
 

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So the statutes the DoJ/FBI used in its application for the warrant do not apply.

The DoJ ad FBI are criminal enterprises and both need to be abolished and new, sleeker agencies formed.



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Lee Casey and David Rivkin, who both served under Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H W Bush, wrote that a former president’s right under the Presidential Records Act supersedes statutes the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the FBI used to raid Trump’s home.
From the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday:
Judge Bruce Reinhart, the federal magistrate who approved the search warrant, and who hates Trump and should have recused himself, unsealed the warrant and property receipt earlier this month and it was revealed that it allowed the FBI to seize all “physical documents and records constituting evidence, contraband, fruits of crime, or other items illegally possessed in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§793, 2071, or 1519.”
The materials that could be seized by the warrant included “any government and/or Presidential Records created between January 20, 2017, and January 20, 2021.” So, they wanted everything from the day Trump was inaugurated to the day he left office, which narrows it down as to what they wanted to find, which was documented evidence of Operation Crossfire Hurricane, the illegal spying on Trump’s campaign in 2016.
According to the two legal scholars, “virtually all the materials at Mar-a-Lago are likely to fall within this category” but “federal law gives Mr. Trump a right of access to them.”
That 1978 law “lays out detailed requirements for how the archivist is to administer the records, handle privilege claims, make the records public, and impose restrictions on access,” they added. “Notably, it doesn’t address the process by which a former president’s records are physically to be turned over to the archivist, or set any deadline, leaving this matter to be negotiated between the archivist and the former president.”
The two wrote that once the DOJ and FBI were satisfied after Trump agreed to their additional padlock to be installed on the Mar-a-Lago storage room where the former president kept the documents, the two agencies should have “sought a less intrusive” way to see the documents than a search warrant and an FBI raid.
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:thankusmile: :TH_WAY~113: Thanks fir posting that,now the commie loving biden lovers who hate Trump andAmerica so much can only sling shit in defeat like the monkey trolls they Zaire,they are going to try and avoid admitting the fbi did an illegal act and these lawyers are lawyers that don’t know nothing,they will post ANYTHING to avoid defeat or to admit that our evil government did thst because he is not part of the corrupt two party system and served the people instead of the elite.:auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::rofl::auiqs.jpg::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 

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:thankusmile: :TH_WAY~113: Thanks fir posting that,now the commie loving biden lovers who hate Trump andAmerica so much can only sling shit in defeat like the monkey trolls they Zaire,they are going to try and avoid admitting the fbi did an illegal act and these lawyers are lawyers that don’t know nothing,they will post ANYTHING to avoid defeat or to admit that our evil government did thst because he is not part of the corrupt two party system and served the people instead of the elite.:auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg::rofl::auiqs.jpg::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Rant on Bubba. Rant on.
 

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So the statutes the DoJ/FBI used in its application for the warrant do not apply.

The DoJ ad FBI are criminal enterprises and both need to be abolished and new, sleeker agencies formed.



...
Lee Casey and David Rivkin, who both served under Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H W Bush, wrote that a former president’s right under the Presidential Records Act supersedes statutes the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the FBI used to raid Trump’s home.
From the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday:
Judge Bruce Reinhart, the federal magistrate who approved the search warrant, and who hates Trump and should have recused himself, unsealed the warrant and property receipt earlier this month and it was revealed that it allowed the FBI to seize all “physical documents and records constituting evidence, contraband, fruits of crime, or other items illegally possessed in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§793, 2071, or 1519.”
The materials that could be seized by the warrant included “any government and/or Presidential Records created between January 20, 2017, and January 20, 2021.” So, they wanted everything from the day Trump was inaugurated to the day he left office, which narrows it down as to what they wanted to find, which was documented evidence of Operation Crossfire Hurricane, the illegal spying on Trump’s campaign in 2016.
According to the two legal scholars, “virtually all the materials at Mar-a-Lago are likely to fall within this category” but “federal law gives Mr. Trump a right of access to them.”
That 1978 law “lays out detailed requirements for how the archivist is to administer the records, handle privilege claims, make the records public, and impose restrictions on access,” they added. “Notably, it doesn’t address the process by which a former president’s records are physically to be turned over to the archivist, or set any deadline, leaving this matter to be negotiated between the archivist and the former president.”
The two wrote that once the DOJ and FBI were satisfied after Trump agreed to their additional padlock to be installed on the Mar-a-Lago storage room where the former president kept the documents, the two agencies should have “sought a less intrusive” way to see the documents than a search warrant and an FBI raid.
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They continue to act as if Trump was never president.
 

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And if he runs and wins he needs to declassify all this stuff and release it for America to see. We know what they're after, how they spied on him and lied to get FISA warrants, and probably much more.

So, they can't allow him to win and be sworn in. Pray for his safety.

It's classified. Trump doesn't understand that. Why don't you?
 

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^ Fallacious; concession of argument.

Link to poll?

Link to poll?

Only about 30% of Republicans are still enamored of Trump. Stealing classified documents worked against him. Yesterday Trump claimed that he took the documents because he was afraid Biden would destroy them. Trump is either mentally ill or dumb as hell.
 

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