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So what offenses against the US did they all commit?That's not exactly what Biden says in the pardon.
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So what offenses against the US did they all commit?That's not exactly what Biden says in the pardon.
he says one cannot assume a crime occurred if that is the basis for the order it is null and void.That's not exactly what Biden says in the pardon.
What you assume or don't assume has absolutely no legal relevance on the order.he says one cannot assume a crime occurred if that is the basis for the order it is null and void.
What offenses against the US are they all guilty of, Moroner?The constitution says offenses are pardoned. It does not say convictions are pardoned.
Trump didn't have any problems pardoning people who hadn't been convicted. Are you sure you didn't just make this up now?
In order to be valid, it must cover crimes committed and not a bulwark against investigation to see if crimes occurred, so unless they admit to crimes it isn't validWhat you assume or don't assume has absolutely no legal relevance on the order.
The Bouvier's Legal Dictionary - the only legal dictionary available to the founders defines PARDONThe whole idea of a preemptive pardon is nonsense. Like talking about a non-deadly murder.
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What The Founders Would Say About Biden And Trump's Pardons
In four years, Biden used his Article 2, Section 2 powers more than 8,064 times.thefederalist.com
Mick Mulvaney just said the swampiest thing everJust because a person hasn't been formally charged, doesn't mean they haven't committed a chargeable offense. Now that xiden crime family has immunity, there's nothing stopping them from laying out the whole pay for play scheme for congress. And should they tell provable lies, they can be charged for that..
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Nixon had resigned before Ford's pardon. He therefore was not going to be impeached.No. The preemptive pardon is legal for any federal offenses other than impeachment. It does not specify that the person must be indicted for those offenses before the pardon can be issued.
Thus Gerald Ford's pardon of Richard Nixon before he had been indicted of any crime was valid. And probably prevented an impeachment.
I see little stopping the Trump DoJ from engaging in an investigation. There's nothing in the constitution that says you can't use it to prevent an investigation.In order to be valid, it must cover crimes committed and not a bulwark against investigation to see if crimes occurred, so unless they admit to crimes it isn't valid
But unlike Bidens pardons Ford stated in the order he was pardoning all crimes committed. Biden says no crime occurred.Nixon had resigned before Ford's pardon. He therefore was not going to be impeached.
The power of pardon conferred by the Constitution upon the President is unlimited except in cases of impeachment. It extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment. The power is not subject to legislative control.The Bouvier's Legal Dictionary - the only legal dictionary available to the founders defines PARDON
PARDON, crim. law, pleading. A pardon is an act of grace, proceeding from the power entrusted with the execution of the laws, which exempts the individual on whom it is bestowed, from the punishment the law inflicts for a crime he has committed. 7 Pet. S. C. Rep. 160.
Again, not exactly.Biden says no crime occurred.
EXACTLYI see little stopping the Trump DoJ from engaging in an investigation. There's nothing in the constitution that says you can't use it to prevent an investigation.
his order does not say that he is pardoning for all crimes committed thus it is null and void,Again, not exactly.
It appears you’re wrong. Basically. It says for all nonviolent offenses. It doesn’t say crimes, but then again neither does the constitution. Not that it matters that much.his order does not say that he is pardoning for all crimes committed thus it is null and void,
OK so by accepting it they ADMIT they committed at least one crime against the US.It appears you’re wrong. Basically. It says for all nonviolent offenses. It doesn’t say crimes, but then again neither does the constitution. Not that it matters that much.
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SCOTUS should address this.The whole idea of a preemptive pardon is nonsense. Like talking about a non-deadly murder.
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What The Founders Would Say About Biden And Trump's Pardons
In four years, Biden used his Article 2, Section 2 powers more than 8,064 times.thefederalist.com
Nope the order is legal and covers all nonviolent crimesSCOTUS should address this.
How can you pardon a person that hasn't been charged with a crime?Nope the order is legal and covers all nonviolent crimes
there is no requirement that formal charges were made. all it has to say is that all crimes they committed are covered.How can you pardon a person that hasn't been charged with a crime?