Conspiracies...

[flacaltenn]

LOL...it means as much as your opinion.

That's likely true.

Society has determined that you conspiracy kooks are a funny bunch which is why you get banned, muzzled, and laughed at.

And I repeat myself....

I will do what I have always attempted to do... What it looks like to others is of lessor importance than trying to find logic and truth.

When that day comes... What posts are you going to point at of mine? Quote a few. Why wait? Do some more laughing now.

Logic?

Your stance is batshit crazy. Democrats rigged the election. But somehow didn't rig the Senate races in Georgia. That is just the tip of the bullshit iceberg on which your "logic" rests.

You mean the Senate races that led to future run-offs? It's not clear that THOSE races didn't have some of the same issues that the Pres ticket did.. We don't KNOW THAT.. So logic is useless here.

What we DO KNOW is that TOO many of the mail-ins were partial ballots with ONLY the Presidential race voted.. An "above normal" occurrence of "lazy voting".. So WHY go after that now?

 

[flacaltenn]

Unfortunately for you the US Senate confirmed that the Trump 2016 campaign coordinated with Russian intel.

Oh.. The SENATE huh? Where are the names and indictments? How did Mueller take a "pass" on all the free good stuff.. You have NO idea of what happened in the plot to spy and abuse an opposition party candidate and his campaign..

You're a fairy in fairyland on this whole outrageous plot...

If I am in fairy land....the Senate Intel Committee (chaired by a republican) is right there with me.
As for the DOJ and OSC...they don't indict sitting presidents.

Your assessment is as faulty as your moderation skills.

Answer my question.. If ANYTHING in the Senate committee report NAILED ANYONE in the Trump campaign as "working with Russia to interfere in an election" -- WHY DIDN'T MUELLER RUN WITH THAT? Instead of determining that "No AMERICAN was found to have aided the Russians"?

You tell yourself these lies to hide behind.. But their value is only to your fragile ego that cant take the truth....

Mueller never said there was "no collusion". You should read his report. Barr (Trump's lackey) said that.

Mueller found that:

• Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his efforts to impede federal proceedings and influence the testimony of witnessess.
  • In 2015 and 2016, Michael Cohen pursued a hotel/residence project in Moscow on behalf of Trump while he was campaigning for President.[5] Then-candidate Trump personally signed a letter of intent.
  • Senior members of the Trump campaign, including Paul Manafort, Donald Trump, Jr., and Jared Kushner took a June 9, 2016, meeting with Russian nationals at Trump Tower, New York, after outreach from an intermediary informed Trump, Jr., that the Russians had derogatory information on Clinton that was “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”[6]
  • Beginning in June 2016, a Trump associate “forecast to senior [Trump] Campaign officials that WikiLeaks would release information damaging to candidate Clinton.”[7] A section of the Report that remains heavily redacted suggests that Roger Stone was this associate and that he had significant contacts with the campaign about Wikileaks.[8]
  • The Report described multiple occasions where Trump associates lied to investigators about Trump associate contacts with Russia. Trump associates George Papadopoulos, Rick Gates, Michael Flynn, and Michael Cohen all admitted that they made false statements to federal investigators or to Congress about their contacts. In addition, Roger Stone faces trial this fall for obstruction of justice, five counts of making false statements, and one count of witness tampering.

Key Findings of the Mueller Report | ACS

www.acslaw.org

Mueller saw his job as investigatory. And the DOJ has a long standing precedent of not indicting a sitting president.

He found evidence of coordination between your blob and Russia. Something they denied ever happened.

NONE NOTHING NADA that you mentioned amounts to "colluding with Russians". Certainly not "colluding to influence an election".. NOTHING THERE..

DID I MISS IT? No -- I didn't.. What people THOUGHT prior to investigations does NOT COUNT..

Lying to CONGRESS doesn't apparently count because it's not a LEGAL INTERROGATION.. The Congress critters are simply posing for the cameras with sound bites and "gotcha moments".,. Watching that or believing it's a LEGAL PROCESS is soap opera for fools.. SO DITCH THAT EXCUSE...

Jared Kushner was NEVER CHARGED.. Give that shit up. That was a "set-up" to make the Admin look bad..

ALL EXCUSES to avoid the TRUTH.. Because you're whole paradigm for opining would burst like a soap bubble if you couldn't cling to these stuffed animals..

Spoken like a true blobber.

Why did Manfort share polling information with the Russians?

Believe it was Ukranians.. Probably because they WERE HIS clients and had a great interest in "handicapping the odds" as to which side was gonna WIN the presidency. And since when is "polling information" a "national security" violation? REALLY? The polls that are now ridiculously WRONG is a nation security threat?

Are you this dense??? Even if they were internal Trump campaign polls -- where's the issue???

"Our guy is gonna win" is not colluding to interfere in an election.. I'm SURE the DNC and Dems do this all the time..

Just like NOW -- the Biden transition team is LEGALLY contacting ALL foreign nations to establish lines of communications.. Which is EXACTLY what Flynn was doing when he urged the Russian Ambassador "to not retaliate against our sanctions" right now.. Was that comment even CONTRARY to the Obama Admin policy?? Did Obama WANT the Russians to retaliate once the Dems lost the election??

That ^^ is logical inquiry... It's what folks need to do to BE opinionated assholes nowadays...

 

[flacaltenn]

The Podesta Group meanwhile during the entire 2016 campaign were representing SberBank.. A bank that LITERALLY OWNS 1/3 of all assets in Russia.. With most of the influential oligarchs and PUTIN with major holdings.

They were working for the interests of ALL the oligarchs and political leadership in Russia to protect their financial interests and holdings..

I'm sure you don't see THIS as "colluding" with Russians.. Even if JOHN Podesta was the fucking CAMPAIGN MANAGER for the Democrat candidate.. And EXTREMELY likely that Manafort and Flynn were targeted because of the "lobbying competition" for interests in Russia and the Ukraine with Democrat ner'do wells... It's payback bitch...

In fact, Podesta and Manifort BOTH "competed and cooperated" in lobbying for the Ukraine.. There's a whole foul backstory there that you dont even know..

If you take a canoe into the Swamp to find criminals -- you'll bag your limit while you're still in sight from where you LAUNCHED the damn canoe.. It's just that bad....

 

[Shelzin]

What happened to applying logic? You said you did that.... Do you really think the US Army could stage a raid in Germany and it not set off alarms around the world? Ever hear of the UN?

That is applying the logic. I won't say it did happen. I'm not going to act like it happened because there is no reason to believe it did. If that's not good enough for you... *shrugs*

 

[citygator]

Any righty morons here watch the retarded morons testifying in news conferences the last few days? That shit was outright parks and rec dumb. It’ll be a class in a few years on mass hysteria and intellectual dishonesty.

 

[candycorn]

LOL...it means as much as your opinion.

That's likely true.

Society has determined that you conspiracy kooks are a funny bunch which is why you get banned, muzzled, and laughed at.

And I repeat myself....

I will do what I have always attempted to do... What it looks like to others is of lessor importance than trying to find logic and truth.

When that day comes... What posts are you going to point at of mine? Quote a few. Why wait? Do some more laughing now.

Logic?

Your stance is batshit crazy. Democrats rigged the election. But somehow didn't rig the Senate races in Georgia. That is just the tip of the bullshit iceberg on which your "logic" rests.

You mean the Senate races that led to future run-offs? It's not clear that THOSE races didn't have some of the same issues that the Pres ticket did.. We don't KNOW THAT.. So logic is useless here.

You do know that a run off means neither candidate got 50%.... Logic would dictate that if you're already committing a felony for voter fraud to get Biden into office, why not give him a Congress that would pass whatever he wanted? Your silly assed conspiracy theory (yes, you're one of those people now) is that they rigged it but they didn't rig it enough.

 

[candycorn]

What happened to applying logic? You said you did that.... Do you really think the US Army could stage a raid in Germany and it not set off alarms around the world? Ever hear of the UN?

That is applying the logic. I won't say it did happen. I'm not going to act like it happened because there is no reason to believe it did. If that's not good enough for you... *shrugs*

It isn't applying logic.

It is wishful thinking based on if the wish comes true...your blob saves a little face.

 

[Shelzin]

It isn't applying logic.

It is wishful thinking based on if the wish comes true...your blob saves a little face.

Wishful thinking? Have I said something that suggests I think it's true? Have you turned *completely* braid dead overnight?

 

[candycorn]

It isn't applying logic.

It is wishful thinking based on if the wish comes true...your blob saves a little face.

Wishful thinking? Have I said something that suggests I think it's true? Have you turned *completely* braid dead overnight?

You clearly have no idea what the word "logic" means.

 

[Shelzin]

You clearly have no idea what the word "logic" means.

One of us doesn't... That's for sure.

Edit: You seem to be trying to make an enemy of me. Why?

Don't get me wrong... You want to play, I'm game. You'll lose, or I'll become just a bit better for the lessons I get from it... It's a win/win for me. I just can't figure out why YOU would want to.

 

[candycorn]

You clearly have no idea what the word "logic" means.

One of us doesn't... That's for sure.

Edit: You seem to be trying to make an enemy of me. Why?

Don't get me wrong... You want to play, I'm game. I just can't figure out why.

Oh brother.

if you're going to argue that you apply logic to situations....you should, you know, apply logic. Not wishful thinking. If you never posted again...I wouldn't notice.

 

[Shelzin]

if you're going to argue that you apply logic to situations....you should, you know, apply logic. Not wishful thinking. If you never posted again...I wouldn't notice.

Wishful thinking? Have I said something that suggests I think it's true? Have you turned *completely* brain dead overnight?

Edit: Always... ALWAYS remember... Nobody, including myself, can make you look like anything. You have to do it.

 

[candycorn]

if you're going to argue that you apply logic to situations....you should, you know, apply logic. Not wishful thinking. If you never posted again...I wouldn't notice.

Wishful thinking? Have I said something that suggests I think it's true? Have you turned *completely* braid dead overnight?

Edit: Always... ALWAYS remember... Nobody, including myself, can make you look like anything. You have to do it.

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