Conservatives, you don’t understand the border issue.

[Dagosa]

remove illegals and then your hated corporations or the small contractors will have to hire Americans

Geesus, have ever worked in the private sector trying to make payroll or you just living under a rock. The temptation to hire immigrants by both large and small business is overwhelming and has to be balanced with the rights of citizens. Only legislation and an organized way of doing it will work….so far the gop has refused to come to the table.

 

[citygator]

I don't care if they enter illegally or not but at this time we cannot afford the $3,5 billion to process them. Immigration should be orderly and limited and vetted before entry. Once they enter they disappear and with legal or illegal comes crime that cost US taxpayers. We have a national deficit of $356 billion and China owns $1.095 trillion of the total $28 trillion U.S. national debt. We need to control population growth by any means..,,,abortions or closing the border....

We need millions and millions of immigrant workers… unless you like open jobs and wage inflation followed by lack of economic growth.

 

[Mac-7]

Hey illiterate. I don’t hate corporations. We all work for them around here. But, they have to sponsor immigrants legally or pay the fines. It’s that simple.
Btw, do a little research on corporate law so you can tell why they can get away with some shit you and I can’t.

You were forced to admit that corporations do not hire most of the illegals

But you still rant against big business anyway

Americans have become obsessed with pursuing the lowest wage possible (for others - not for themselves)

So hiring illegals seems like a good idea to many people

And welfare for Americans takes some of the sting off being unemployed while illegals do all the work

You want to crucify the businesses that hire illegals while I want to go after the illegals themselves and deport them

Why not do both?

Knowingly hiring illegal aliens should be a crime

Along with swift action taken against the illegals themselves

 

[Mac-7]

Geesus, have ever worked in the private sector trying to make payroll or you just living under a rock. The temptation to hire immigrants by both large and small business is overwhelming and has to be balanced with the rights of citizens. Only legislation and an organized way of doing it will work….so far the gop has refused to come to the table.

You are the one who is living in a fantasy world

Dont single out the GOP

Since trump was defeated no one in power wants to deport illegals

 

[LilOlLady]

We need millions and millions of immigrant workers… unless you like open jobs and wage inflation followed by lack of economic growth.

Opinion | America can't afford to keep taking in immigrants

"Each immigrant applying for asylum, from Latin America, costs the taxpayer (you and me) $70,000 a year. Deporting back to their homeland cost one seventh that amount."

www.theleafchronicle.com

According to the government’s own statistics, each immigrant applying for asylum, from Latin America, costs the taxpayer (you and me) $70,000 a year. Deporting back to their homeland cost one seventh that amount.

The caravan of several thousand headed toward the U.S. will not be turned away, as implied. If you listen to the rhetoric, it says they will not enter en masse, but by an orderly fashion. That means they will enter in an orderly fashion by filling out paperwork. Like thousands before them, once registered as refugees seeking asylum they will be given a court date for a hearing and welcomed into the U.S. Our immigration laws make it possible for the system to operate this way. Unable to stop the flood is what is broken in our immigration policy. Those in the current and following caravans know the magic word for entry. It is “asylum.” “Y’all come on in.”

 

[Unkotare]

What an illiterate post.

Start studying.

 

[Unkotare]

Geesus, [sic] have [sic] ever worked in the private sector trying to make payroll [sic] or [sic] you just living under a rock [sic]. ...

Learn English or get out of my country.

 

[BackAgain]

Bet your ass you are being prejudged.
By me and the vast majority on non “MAGA idiots.“ You’re all foolish deniers of democracy, climate change and science.
Yup, guilty as changed…..you guys are foolish.

As I already said. You are prejudgmental. Assholes like you dispense with facts and rely on stereotypes and your obviously shallow thinking.

 

[Penelope]

No.
They use their political power to get Section 8 Housing and I object to such politically motivated nonsense that abuses our taxes.

They are welfare recipients.

 

[LilOlLady]

There's no such thing as an "anchor baby."

Anchor baby; An “anchor baby” refers to a child born in the United States to parents who are not citizens of the U.S., but who automatically gains citizenship because the mother was present in U.S. territory at the time of the birth of the child. The child is considered the link or “anchor” for assisting its parents and other extended family members in legally immigrating to the United States.
About 250000 babies were born to unauthorized immigrant parents in the United States in 2016, down from 390000 in 2007.

 

[LilOlLady]

I don't care if they enter illegally or not but at this time we cannot afford the $3,5 billion to process them. Immigration should be orderly and limited and vetted before entry. Once they enter they disappear and with legal or illegal comes crime that cost US taxpayers. We have a national deficit of $356 billion and China owns $1.095 trillion of the total $28 trillion U.S. national debt. We need to control population growth by any means..,,,abortions or closing the border....

 

[Unkotare]

.....The child is considered the link or “anchor” for assisting its parents and other extended family members in legally immigrating to the United States.
.....

But it does NOT work that way. Having a baby that is a US citizen does NOT alter the mother or father's immigration status. They are still subject to deportation if in the country illegally. No "anchor."

 

[Unkotare]

Look at the previous response before you make up shift.

:
Exact numbers of illegal border crossers? Care to think about that one again?

 

[Flash]

If you want to understand why the border encounter numbers are so high, you should take a look at these handy charts:

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Let me explain what this means. We have the first chart showing an explosion in border encounters near the end of the Trump presidency after instituting Title 42. We have the second chart showing that around 60% of CBP arrests are people who have already entered illegally. And the third chart shows that CBP estimates it apprehended about 82.6% of people who tried to illegally enter in 2021.

What should we take away from that? One, our border is not remotely open. CBP actually exceeded its goal on interdiction effectiveness in the first year under Biden. Second, Title 42 is driving up the number of border encounters. And third, people are continuing to try and enter again after we expel them using Title 42, leading to increased recidivism. Why? Because under Title 42, they're being denied the opportunity to go through the asylum system.

Basically, the numbers are artificially inflated because of Title 42. If we ended Title 42, the numbers would drop fairly substantially. Now, would the numbers fall off a cliff? No. Migration is largely driven by EXTERNAL factors. The things driving migration right now are instability and economic issues in Central and South America (particularly, Venezuela and the Northern Triangle in Central America).

Now, you might ask why Biden hasn't sought to end Title 42. Guess what? He did.
Biden administration announces official end to Title 42, the Trump-era pandemic restrictions at the US border | CNN Politics

You'll never guess what happened next? A Trump "judge" refused to let Biden end the policy Trump created, despite the fact that Biden sought to use the same procedure to end it that Trump used to create it.
Judge blocks Biden administration from lifting public health order used to quickly expel migrants

And here's the funny part, Title 42 is supposedly a COVID-mitigation policy. So keep in mind that all these Trump "judges" have been striking down Biden's COVID policies left and right, but the one COVID policy Biden tried to end on his own, they told him he MUST keep enforcing. It's calvinball. Partisan hacks in robes making political decisions.

So Trump "judges" are requiring Biden to continue to enforce a Trump policy that is inflating the border encounter and apprehension data in a major way.

But hey, at least Biden can choose how to best apply the resources he has at his disposal to enforce our immigration laws in the most efficient and effective manner, right? Wrong. Trump "judges" have also ruled that Biden doesn't have the power to set immigration enforcement priorities.
Court strikes down Biden immigration enforcement priorities

That's right. The people in charge of federal law enforcement are not allowed to tell the officers serving under them where to focus law enforcement efforts and resources. Why? Because some hack appointed by Trump said so.

I could go on and on all day about how ridiculous things are. But the truth of the matter is that presidents don't have much control over migration, and Biden has even less control over migration and the border than your average president because the clowns Trump put on the federal bench have seized control of large swaths of federal immigration policy from the Executive Branch we elected.

You stupid Moon Bat.

What we Americans understand is that the border was secure under Trump and when this Potatohead asshole took office he immediately stopped the things that made it secure, like the agreement with Mexico.

Potatohead actually announced that the border was open. How fucking stupid was that?

Stop your fucking lying Moon Bat. It just makes you look like an idiot.

 

[LilOlLady]

But it does NOT work that way. Having a baby that is a US citizen does NOT alter the mother or father's immigration status. They are still subject to deportation if in the country illegally. No "anchor."

And they are NEVER deported. Family migration is the term used to categorize the migration of people who migrate due to new or established family ties, and it encompasses several sub-categories: reunification with a family member who migrated earlier (a person with subsidiary protection is also entitled to (re)unite with family members)
Chain migration is the social process by which immigrants from a particular area follow others from that area to a particular destination.

 

[Unkotare]

And they are NEVER deported. ....

Wrong. Completely wrong. I have personally known more than a few families separated this way. YOU ARE WRONG.

 

[Unkotare]

..... Family migration is the term used to categorize the migration of people who migrate due to new or established family ties,....

That does NOT refer to any supposed "anchor baby" BS. It refers to a GROWN US citizen (at least 21 to BEGIN the process) APPLYING to sponsor close relatives. If those relatives have a criminal record and/or have been previously deported (to which they are subject if in the country illegally), that application will be rejected.

 

[Dagosa]

:
Exact numbers of illegal border crossers? Care to think about that one again?

You’re ignorance is stunning. The original post said there were no exact numbers. That’s bogus. There are some exact numbers concerning illegals. If you can’t read, take pill. Why are you so stupid ?

 

[Unkotare]

You’re [sic] ignorance is stunning. ....

LEARN ENGLISH OR LEAVE MY COUNTRY.

 

[Unkotare]

You’re ignorance is stunning. The original post said there were no exact numbers. That’s bogus. ....

"Illegal border crossers." Holy crap, you're stupid.