Conservatives, do you feel bad about being Counterculture?

[task0778]

We stand for Equality and Rights of all people. We believe that The State must ensure well-being of all people.

Conservatives do stand for Equality and Rights of all people. For us, equality means equal opportunity and equal rights before the law. NOT equity, whatever you make out of your own efforts and abilities should be pretty much up to you, AND we believe that you should be able to keep as much of the fruits of your labor as possible.

"We believe that The State must ensure well-being of all people."

Nope, we don't believe that, or at least I don't. The State has no business ensuring anybody's well-being, that is the responsibility of every individual. In actual fact, the State has no business guaranteeing anything, they and we are supposed to strive for the best possible outcomes we can get and try to do better in the future, but no guarantees.

 

[Votto]

I oppose Racism and White Nationalism -- I am Jewish. I oppose guns. I support Welfare.


I oppose Totalitarian Leftist Cancel Culture. I believe that All People are Created Equal.

So were you happy when Hitler took all the guns off the streets, especially from Jews?

 

[Votto]

1) Liberal Liberals are further from Totalitarian Left then Conservatives.

2) Minorities in general and African Americans in particular do face significant discrimination in USA.

No, totalitarianism comes from collectivists. Collectivists come in may forms and flavors, communism, socialism, progressivism, fascism, etc.

So when regimes start to centralize power, like Progressives have done in the US, then they gravitate towards a top heavy top down dictatorship where the power of the states become as nothing.

Keep in mind, Hitler was a socialist. To implement socialism, that is to keep record of every economic transaction and then redistribute the money therein as you see fit, takes a tremendous amount of surveillance and power over the individual.

“We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions” 1927​

 

[Votto]

I oppose Racism and White Nationalism -- I am Jewish. I oppose guns. I support Welfare.


I oppose Totalitarian Leftist Cancel Culture. I believe that All People are Created Equal.

If you are really Jewish, do me a favor, look how God set up the Hebrew government.

No king, no central authority, just a court system to settle disputes among the people. No welfare state, just instruction from the Torah for the people to heed to help the poor.

However, the people clamored for a king as they went to Samuel the prophet to petition God for one so they could be like all the other nations. God told Samuel that they were really rejecting him as their king, and then gave them a long list of abuses that would be inflicted on them if they persisted in their desire for a sinful man to be king over them. But the people refused to heed the warnings and demanded one, so God gave them Saul. (1 Samuel 8)

Then God gave the most chilling rebuke I have ever heard in the Bible. He told the people that since they rejected his warnings, when they cried out to him for the abuses they endured he warned them about, he would be as tone deaf to their cries as they were to his warnings

So Saul became king, and it was only 3 kings later we see the entire Hebrew nation split into 2 nations. And from there they continued to spiral the drain until the Assyrians took out the Northern kingdom, and then later the Babylonians took out the Southern kingdom. Next thing you know, the Hebrew people found themselves in the ovens of Nazi Germany.

Stop looking to sinful man for your salvation.

What I have noticed is, those who are of faith, whether Christian or Jewish, and ardently practice their faith and serious about it, they lean conservative. But those who are Godless, or only identify as a Christian or Jew based on heredity, lean Left. This is because we are wired to look for that king. We desire it because we are sheep and of need of a shepherd.

So choose your shepherd wisely.

 

[DukeU]

In Canada, people who are serving a life sentence have humane conditions.

Do/Did their victims receive the same?

 

[Man of Ethics]

So were you happy when Hitler took all the guns off the streets, especially from Jews?

This is an extreme example which has nothing in common with Modern Society.

 

[Man of Ethics]

No, totalitarianism comes from collectivists. Collectivists come in may forms and flavors, communism, socialism, progressivism, fascism, etc.

So when regimes start to centralize power, like Progressives have done in the US, then they gravitate towards a top heavy top down dictatorship where the power of the states become as nothing.

In USA 2021, most Totalitarianism is corporate rather then from government.

 

[Man of Ethics]

Nope, we don't believe that, or at least I don't. The State has no business ensuring anybody's well-being, that is the responsibility of every individual. In actual fact, the State has no business guaranteeing anything, they and we are supposed to strive for the best possible outcomes we can get and try to do better in the future, but no guarantees.

In my opinion, all people must have a right to Food, Shelter, and Medical Care.

 

[task0778]

In my opinion, all people must have a right to Food, Shelter, and Medical Care.

Then you are obviously not a conservative.

 

[Votto]

In my opinion, all people must have a right to Food, Shelter, and Medical Care.

Well in the Constitution we have a right to bear arms

But I don't think they used the word "right" the way you are. That is a new thingy.

It's not as if the government ever felt compelled to go out and buy everyone a gun.