Conservatives and Liberals: A little more civility please

[owebo]

The whole system is a sham. It is reserved only for multi millionaires, billionaires etc. Where is the person working their butts off for 40 grand? That says a lot about this so called great nation.

Link to people being prohibited from becoming millionaires and billionaires?

 

[owebo]

You mean the Trump landslide?

There's no such thing. He won the election on a technicality, just like Bush the first time.

Are you retarded? The electoral college isn't a technicality. It's the only way to win a presidential race.

The electoral college is a sham that needs to end. Trump lost the most important part of democratic elections, votes.

So bitter! Hillary is a sham and that's why Trump won a landslide in the electoral college.

He won in a landslide? He got less electoral votes than Obama in 2012 and I wouldn't call that a landslide.

Anyway, it's not about Clinton, it's about keeping Trump accountable.

Wasn't your Hillary supposed to have that many? Seems it was indeed a landslide for Trump....sadness in you.....you'll love our SCOTUS for the next 40 years.....

 

[initforme]

Just asking the question. You perhaps can't answer it. Why is it that only multi millionaires and billionaires are elected? It matters not the party. This countries system is a joke....embarrassment. It is controlled by big slimy money. Can you dispute this? Didn't think so. Blinded by patriotism.

 

[Fenton Lum]

There's no such thing. He won the election on a technicality, just like Bush the first time.

Only left wingers view the Constitution as a "technicality."

Stop jizzing all over the Constitution and pretending you love it.

So defending the Constitution is "jizzing all over it?"

You're obviously a douche bag leftwinger.

U.S. Constitution Toilet Paper

I'll bet you buy it by the ton.

OK, go do that.

 

[owebo]

Just asking the question. You perhaps can't answer it. Why is it that only multi millionaires and billionaires are elected? It matters not the party. This countries system is a joke....embarrassment. It is controlled by big slimy money. Can you dispute this? Didn't think so. Blinded by patriotism.

Carter was relatively poor.....so.....

 

[Fenton Lum]

There's no such thing. He won the election on a technicality, just like Bush the first time.

Are you retarded? The electoral college isn't a technicality. It's the only way to win a presidential race.

The electoral college is a sham that needs to end. Trump lost the most important part of democratic elections, votes.

So bitter! Hillary is a sham and that's why Trump won a landslide in the electoral college.

He won in a landslide? He got less electoral votes than Obama in 2012 and I wouldn't call that a landslide.

Anyway, it's not about Clinton, it's about keeping Trump accountable.

Wasn't your Hillary supposed to have that many? Seems it was indeed a landslide for Trump....sadness in you.....you'll love our SCOTUS for the next 40 years.....

Anyone who ever gets into a position of power in america needs to be held accountable, the vote will never be enough.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Just asking the question. You perhaps can't answer it. Why is it that only multi millionaires and billionaires are elected? It matters not the party. This countries system is a joke....embarrassment. It is controlled by big slimy money. Can you dispute this? Didn't think so. Blinded by patriotism.

Carter was relatively poor.....so.....

You hate the media but can't help but be controlled by it; the media rewrote the Carter history and you follwed and swallowed.

 

[owebo]

Are you retarded? The electoral college isn't a technicality. It's the only way to win a presidential race.

The electoral college is a sham that needs to end. Trump lost the most important part of democratic elections, votes.

So bitter! Hillary is a sham and that's why Trump won a landslide in the electoral college.

He won in a landslide? He got less electoral votes than Obama in 2012 and I wouldn't call that a landslide.

Anyway, it's not about Clinton, it's about keeping Trump accountable.

Wasn't your Hillary supposed to have that many? Seems it was indeed a landslide for Trump....sadness in you.....you'll love our SCOTUS for the next 40 years.....

Anyone who ever gets into a position of power in america needs to be held accountable, the vote will never be enough.

You propose a monarchy then? What a fucking liberal tool......

 

[toomuchtime_]

There is no lie. They stated they do not believe the results of any recount are going to change the election. That doesn't mean that if a recount takes place they aren't going to want to ensure votes are counted accurately.

Hell, Trump wins and he can't even be satisfied with the results.

We saw over the past 8 years how many americans cannot lose with any grace or dignity, now we know they cannot even win and be good sports about it. This is a very unhealthy society, and it's getting worse and will probably continue to.

It's a great society and it will be even greater now that the Clintons are gone.

I thought Trump campaigned on how the country wasn't great.

The country is great but the Obama administration isn't and Clinton clearly had no idea how to help the country recover from Obama.

If only Obama hadn't helped the country recover from GW.

Did he? According to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, when Obama took office the civilian participation rate in the US (those 16 and over who were working or looking for work) was 66.2% and now it is 62.7%. That means that about 9.5% of the US labor force became so discouraged about finding a job during the Obama years that they stopped looking and are no longer counted in the unemployment rate. If this 9.5% who lost all hope of finding a job during the Obama years were counted as among the unemployed, we would have an unemployment rate of about 13%, not the 4.6% Democrats are touting. These are the people the Democrats forgot about and they are among the people who have turned to Trump for help.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

 

[LeftofLeft]

I appreciate Liberals bringing alternatives to the table for sincere, genuine debate. I cannot think of any policy I agree with from Bernie Sanders but I respect the hell out of him because he is very up front and committed to his ideals. He does not try to mask or hide his policies.

What I have Zero tolerance for is the obstruction of voters' rights. I saw this on display this past election when Trump supporters were assaulted by the opponents. You can hold me to that standard if I see conservatives physically obstructing access of supporters to their candidate(s). Oh, and can we dispense with the drama when your side loses? Either follow through on your threat to move out of the country or stay committed to being the 'civil loyal opposition'.

 

[Derelict_Drvr]

Supporting a recount and not accepting the results of an election are two different things. The recount is a part of any election process.

They've even stated they don't think a recount will change the results but because grifter Jill Stein got involved they don't have much of a choice but to at least appear to give a shit.

All the states have provisions for state led recounts if there is evidence of significant error or wrongdoing, but Clinton is supporting a recount while acknowledging the results are valid? Why would she do that unless it is just another Clinton lie suggesting there is something wrong with the vote when she knows it isn't true?

Doesn't have to be any wrongdoing, could just be a close election. She's conceded, it's a done deal, don't worry yourself over it. The Clinton campaign doesn't have much of a choice. If Stein gets her recount they are going to want to be involved in it. It's called politics.

It's called dirty politics, it's called lying to voters, which is a fair characterization of Clinton's entire political career.

There is no lie. They stated they do not believe the results of any recount are going to change the election. That doesn't mean that if a recount takes place they aren't going to want to ensure votes are counted accurately.

Hell, Trump wins and he can't even be satisfied with the results.

We saw over the past 8 years how many americans cannot lose with any grace or dignity, now we know they cannot even win and be good sports about it. This is a very unhealthy society, and it's getting worse and will probably continue to.

"they cannot even win and be good sports about it"

What are you talking about? Over 90% of the "Stink" in here is coming from Democrats!

In the previous 2 election I wasn't upset with the fact my side lost, it was more about who was elected. I was concerned about Barry O'Bama himself because I believed him when he said he would "fundamentally change America" (Keyword here was fundamentally). I recognized that he is a silver-tongued Socialist and was fearful that he might be the first shot fired in the loss of our Republic.

I wasn't totally correct in my fear, but I wasn't totally wrong either.

That's where I stand, and I don't believe I am alone.

 

[Fenton Lum]

We saw over the past 8 years how many americans cannot lose with any grace or dignity, now we know they cannot even win and be good sports about it. This is a very unhealthy society, and it's getting worse and will probably continue to.

It's a great society and it will be even greater now that the Clintons are gone.

I thought Trump campaigned on how the country wasn't great.

The country is great but the Obama administration isn't and Clinton clearly had no idea how to help the country recover from Obama.

If only Obama hadn't helped the country recover from GW.

Did he? According to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, when Obama took office the civilian participation rate in the US (those 16 and over who were working or looking for work) was 66.2% and now it is 62.7%. That means that about 9.5% of the US labor force became so discouraged about finding a job during the Obama years that they stopped looking and are no longer counted in the unemployment rate. If this 9.5% who lost all hope of finding a job during the Obama years were counted as among the unemployed, we would have an unemployment rate of about 13%, not the 4.6% Democrats are touting. These are the people the Democrats forgot about and they are among the people who have turned to Trump for help.

I'm not going to get into inventing statistics with you since many "citizens" now just make up their own "facts" claiming anything they don't wish to be so as bogus. GW Bush gave us Obama. We all know where we were 8 years ago.

 

[owebo]

Just asking the question. You perhaps can't answer it. Why is it that only multi millionaires and billionaires are elected? It matters not the party. This countries system is a joke....embarrassment. It is controlled by big slimy money. Can you dispute this? Didn't think so. Blinded by patriotism.

Carter was relatively poor.....so.....

You hate the media but can't help but be controlled by it; the media rewrote the Carter history and you follwed and swallowed.

Your fake news tell you that?

 

[owebo]

It's a great society and it will be even greater now that the Clintons are gone.

I thought Trump campaigned on how the country wasn't great.

The country is great but the Obama administration isn't and Clinton clearly had no idea how to help the country recover from Obama.

If only Obama hadn't helped the country recover from GW.

Did he? According to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, when Obama took office the civilian participation rate in the US (those 16 and over who were working or looking for work) was 66.2% and now it is 62.7%. That means that about 9.5% of the US labor force became so discouraged about finding a job during the Obama years that they stopped looking and are no longer counted in the unemployment rate. If this 9.5% who lost all hope of finding a job during the Obama years were counted as among the unemployed, we would have an unemployment rate of about 13%, not the 4.6% Democrats are touting. These are the people the Democrats forgot about and they are among the people who have turned to Trump for help.

I'm not going to get into inventing statistics with you since many "citizens" now just make up their own "facts" claiming anything they don't wish to be so as bogus. GW Bush gave us Obama. We all know where we were 8 years ago.

Where we are at now....whT was your point?

 

[toomuchtime_]

It's a great society and it will be even greater now that the Clintons are gone.

I thought Trump campaigned on how the country wasn't great.

The country is great but the Obama administration isn't and Clinton clearly had no idea how to help the country recover from Obama.

If only Obama hadn't helped the country recover from GW.

Did he? According to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, when Obama took office the civilian participation rate in the US (those 16 and over who were working or looking for work) was 66.2% and now it is 62.7%. That means that about 9.5% of the US labor force became so discouraged about finding a job during the Obama years that they stopped looking and are no longer counted in the unemployment rate. If this 9.5% who lost all hope of finding a job during the Obama years were counted as among the unemployed, we would have an unemployment rate of about 13%, not the 4.6% Democrats are touting. These are the people the Democrats forgot about and they are among the people who have turned to Trump for help.

I'm not going to get into inventing statistics with you since many "citizens" now just make up their own "facts" claiming anything they don't wish to be so as bogus. GW Bush gave us Obama. We all know where we were 8 years ago.

These are statistics from Obama's Bureau of Labor Statistics. Check for yourself.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

 

[Fenton Lum]

All the states have provisions for state led recounts if there is evidence of significant error or wrongdoing, but Clinton is supporting a recount while acknowledging the results are valid? Why would she do that unless it is just another Clinton lie suggesting there is something wrong with the vote when she knows it isn't true?

Doesn't have to be any wrongdoing, could just be a close election. She's conceded, it's a done deal, don't worry yourself over it. The Clinton campaign doesn't have much of a choice. If Stein gets her recount they are going to want to be involved in it. It's called politics.

It's called dirty politics, it's called lying to voters, which is a fair characterization of Clinton's entire political career.

There is no lie. They stated they do not believe the results of any recount are going to change the election. That doesn't mean that if a recount takes place they aren't going to want to ensure votes are counted accurately.

Hell, Trump wins and he can't even be satisfied with the results.

We saw over the past 8 years how many americans cannot lose with any grace or dignity, now we know they cannot even win and be good sports about it. This is a very unhealthy society, and it's getting worse and will probably continue to.

"they cannot even win and be good sports about it"

What are you talking about? Over 90% of the "Stink" in here is coming from Democrats!

In the previous 2 election I wasn't upset with the fact my side lost, it was more about who was elected. I was concerned about Barry O'Bama himself because I believed him when he said he would "fundamentally change America" (Keyword here was fundamentally). I recognized that he is a silver-tongued Socialist and was fearful that he might be the first shot fired in the loss of our Republic.

That's where I stand, and I don't believe I am alone.

"In the previous 2 election I wasn't upset with the fact my side lost, it was more about who was elected.

Isn't that convenient. Well, perhaps that's what they're going on about. Maybe they're not upset with the fact their side lost, maybe it's more about who was elected.

 

[initforme]

Carter was relatively poor. Laughable.

 

[Fenton Lum]

I thought Trump campaigned on how the country wasn't great.

The country is great but the Obama administration isn't and Clinton clearly had no idea how to help the country recover from Obama.

If only Obama hadn't helped the country recover from GW.

Did he? According to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, when Obama took office the civilian participation rate in the US (those 16 and over who were working or looking for work) was 66.2% and now it is 62.7%. That means that about 9.5% of the US labor force became so discouraged about finding a job during the Obama years that they stopped looking and are no longer counted in the unemployment rate. If this 9.5% who lost all hope of finding a job during the Obama years were counted as among the unemployed, we would have an unemployment rate of about 13%, not the 4.6% Democrats are touting. These are the people the Democrats forgot about and they are among the people who have turned to Trump for help.

I'm not going to get into inventing statistics with you since many "citizens" now just make up their own "facts" claiming anything they don't wish to be so as bogus. GW Bush gave us Obama. We all know where we were 8 years ago.

These are statistics from Obama's Bureau of Labor Statistics. Check for yourself.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Are we bailing out banksters hon?

 

[Fenton Lum]

Carter was relatively poor. Laughable.

Talking points memo, just roll with it, don't think.

 

[owebo]

Carter was relatively poor. Laughable.

As is your stupidity....