Conservative Hypocrisy on Abortion

[SweetSue92]

Anti abortionists are all about punishing women they view as sluts. Its another strand of the rights hatred of women.

Penny is pro-abortion and SHE is the one who called a woman who got an abortion a "slut" in this thread. Don't mistake that, Tommy.

 

[initforme]

I did see s man won a lawsuit against Monsanto for exposure to Roundup. I was happy to hear it. Stuff is toxic.

 

[theHawk]

Last night I watched a documentary on Netflix called the Devil We Know. The documentary was the story of the role of Dupont in the production, proliferation and manufacture of Teflon. Teflon is made from a chemical called C8. C8, also known as perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA), is man-made and used in the process of producing Teflon, known for its nonstick qualities. Following a barrage of lawsuits against DuPont for the release of C8 into the environment, production ended in 2015. 99% of American blood samples show we are all contaminated with C8.

C8 was known to cause birth defects, cancer and premature deaths in those exposed. The documentary had an interview with a child born of birth defects because his mother was exposed to the chemical. There were many more like him.

In a deposition when a Dupont corporate officer was asked whether C8 was a danger to the mother he was adamant that there was no such danger, the only danger, he protested, was "to the fetus".

Dupont has since discontinued C8 but its substitute is believed just as toxic.

There are tens of thousands of other chemical that are unregulated by the EPA. The same EPA that is being gutted by the Trump administration. The same Trump administration that is gutting discharge rules allowing more toxins into our air and water. C8 and its progeny are far from the only chemicals that cause these birth defects and premature deaths.

So, all these threads from conservatives condemning abortion is only so much claptrap if you are inconsistent with your beliefs. Begs the question of course whether if a profit is involved, you will turn the other way.

Where is your outrage here?

Why doesn’t Pelosi just pass a law banning it then?

 

[Penelope]

Last night I watched a documentary on Netflix called the Devil We Know. The documentary was the story of the role of Dupont in the production, proliferation and manufacture of Teflon. Teflon is made from a chemical called C8. C8, also known as perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA), is man-made and used in the process of producing Teflon, known for its nonstick qualities. Following a barrage of lawsuits against DuPont for the release of C8 into the environment, production ended in 2015. 99% of American blood samples show we are all contaminated with C8.

C8 was known to cause birth defects, cancer and premature deaths in those exposed. The documentary had an interview with a child born of birth defects because his mother was exposed to the chemical. There were many more like him.

In a deposition when a Dupont corporate officer was asked whether C8 was a danger to the mother he was adamant that there was no such danger, the only danger, he protested, was "to the fetus".

Dupont has since discontinued C8 but its substitute is believed just as toxic.

There are tens of thousands of other chemical that are unregulated by the EPA. The same EPA that is being gutted by the Trump administration. The same Trump administration that is gutting discharge rules allowing more toxins into our air and water. C8 and its progeny are far from the only chemicals that cause these birth defects and premature deaths.

So, all these threads from conservatives condemning abortion is only so much claptrap if you are inconsistent with your beliefs. Begs the question of course whether if a profit is involved, you will turn the other way.

Where is your outrage here?

Okay so the EPA regulations might occasionally catch a chemical like this, that might cause birth defects, not that I believe your claims at face value, because I don't. As we know, the EPA also issues a LOT, and I mean a LOT of regulations that are totally stifling for heaven knows why. Mixed bag.

Every SINGLE time a woman has an abortion, and I mean in 99.99% of cases, the outcome is clear. SHE IS KILLING HER OWN BABY. That is not "it might" or "perhaps". She is. She is killing her own baby, there is no "studies show" or "in large enough amounts" or "with enough exposure". The doctor will reach in there and rip the baby's limbs apart piece and piece and then suck the baby out.

So I really don't see any comparison here. Having your baby harmed by harmful substances is tragic and should be avoided. Having American babies sucked out of their mother's wombs BY THE MILLIONS EVERY YEAR, on purpose, is an atrocity.

And you know what, mind your own business. How many do you know personally who have had an abortion? You must know them all. Any of your friends, relatives, kids? You? Don't answer, its none of my business.

Some of us don't mind the heat we get from proaborts for our CHOICE to defend the rights of the children that you and your ilk are in denial of.

You know some of the people most against abortions have had one, like that young Rep wife who had one in HS, totally anti abortion now, she doesn't want anyone to get one, ok for her though, not being married and all, she was a little slut in HS.

Penny says the people who get abortions are "sluts". How fascinating Penny.

You don't really think things through do you?

I called the young Rep in HS a slut, who had an abortion in HS. I never called people who get abortions slut, only her.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The whole argument makes no sense at all.

Noise to distract from willing murder of the most innocent of all.

 

[JLW]

Last night I watched a documentary on Netflix called the Devil We Know. The documentary was the story of the role of Dupont in the production, proliferation and manufacture of Teflon. Teflon is made from a chemical called C8. C8, also known as perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA), is man-made and used in the process of producing Teflon, known for its nonstick qualities. Following a barrage of lawsuits against DuPont for the release of C8 into the environment, production ended in 2015. 99% of American blood samples show we are all contaminated with C8.

C8 was known to cause birth defects, cancer and premature deaths in those exposed. The documentary had an interview with a child born of birth defects because his mother was exposed to the chemical. There were many more like him.

In a deposition when a Dupont corporate officer was asked whether C8 was a danger to the mother he was adamant that there was no such danger, the only danger, he protested, was "to the fetus".

Dupont has since discontinued C8 but its substitute is believed just as toxic.

There are tens of thousands of other chemical that are unregulated by the EPA. The same EPA that is being gutted by the Trump administration. The same Trump administration that is gutting discharge rules allowing more toxins into our air and water. C8 and its progeny are far from the only chemicals that cause these birth defects and premature deaths.

So, all these threads from conservatives condemning abortion is only so much claptrap if you are inconsistent with your beliefs. Begs the question of course whether if a profit is involved, you will turn the other way.

Where is your outrage here?

Why doesn’t Pelosi just pass a law banning it then?

The power belongs to the EPA. Instead of gutting the EPA, deregulating the discharge of toxins into the air and water, and giving passes to big polluters, the EPA mandate should be vigorously enforced.

The fact is it is not just Dupont but Monsanto, Dow, BASF, etc.not to mention mining corporations, that dump toxic effluents into the environment.

The interesting statistic was that it is not only 99% of Americans that have C8 in its system, but 95 % of the world population has C8 in its blood. We are all toxic superfund sites.

There are many ways I could have taken this thread, but since there were abortion threads sprouting up all over this forum, I asked the question why are these big polluters given a pass for the havoc they are reeking on the unborn and the living. Why do "pro-life" types pass up any condemnation of these companies and their actions? Why are so many "pro-lifers" against laws, rules and regulations that limit pollutants that would lessen the amount of birth defects?

The West Virginia town at the heart of the story, is very conservative. They knew what the Dupont plant was exposing their children and families to but they chose to turn a blind eye to the poisons being unleashed in their town. Why? I guess it comes down to a choice between jobs and health, even if we are talking the health of fetuses.

I think this a false choice, however. There is no reason why Dupont could not have spent some money keeping their employees safe as well as taking appropriate controls to limit discharge of C8 into the environment. Rather than do that, Dupont had engaged in a 50 year coverup.

Dupont makes $25 billion dollars a year. A shame that to make an extra buck they destroyed the lives of so many.

 

[Chuz Life]

Last night I watched a documentary on Netflix called the Devil We Know. The documentary was the story of the role of Dupont in the production, proliferation and manufacture of Teflon. Teflon is made from a chemical called C8. C8, also known as perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA), is man-made and used in the process of producing Teflon, known for its nonstick qualities. Following a barrage of lawsuits against DuPont for the release of C8 into the environment, production ended in 2015. 99% of American blood samples show we are all contaminated with C8.

C8 was known to cause birth defects, cancer and premature deaths in those exposed. The documentary had an interview with a child born of birth defects because his mother was exposed to the chemical. There were many more like him.

In a deposition when a Dupont corporate officer was asked whether C8 was a danger to the mother he was adamant that there was no such danger, the only danger, he protested, was "to the fetus".

Dupont has since discontinued C8 but its substitute is believed just as toxic.

There are tens of thousands of other chemical that are unregulated by the EPA. The same EPA that is being gutted by the Trump administration. The same Trump administration that is gutting discharge rules allowing more toxins into our air and water. C8 and its progeny are far from the only chemicals that cause these birth defects and premature deaths.

So, all these threads from conservatives condemning abortion is only so much claptrap if you are inconsistent with your beliefs. Begs the question of course whether if a profit is involved, you will turn the other way.

Where is your outrage here?

Okay so the EPA regulations might occasionally catch a chemical like this, that might cause birth defects, not that I believe your claims at face value, because I don't. As we know, the EPA also issues a LOT, and I mean a LOT of regulations that are totally stifling for heaven knows why. Mixed bag.

Every SINGLE time a woman has an abortion, and I mean in 99.99% of cases, the outcome is clear. SHE IS KILLING HER OWN BABY. That is not "it might" or "perhaps". She is. She is killing her own baby, there is no "studies show" or "in large enough amounts" or "with enough exposure". The doctor will reach in there and rip the baby's limbs apart piece and piece and then suck the baby out.

So I really don't see any comparison here. Having your baby harmed by harmful substances is tragic and should be avoided. Having American babies sucked out of their mother's wombs BY THE MILLIONS EVERY YEAR, on purpose, is an atrocity.

And you know what, mind your own business. How many do you know personally who have had an abortion? You must know them all. Any of your friends, relatives, kids? You? Don't answer, its none of my business.

Some of us don't mind the heat we get from proaborts for our CHOICE to defend the rights of the children that you and your ilk are in denial of.

You know some of the people most against abortions have had one.

And?

That's because they KNOW all to well that they have killed a child and the laws were wrong to allow it.

TOO well.

/fixed

 

[Chuz Life]

Okay so the EPA regulations might occasionally catch a chemical like this, that might cause birth defects, not that I believe your claims at face value, because I don't. As we know, the EPA also issues a LOT, and I mean a LOT of regulations that are totally stifling for heaven knows why. Mixed bag.

Every SINGLE time a woman has an abortion, and I mean in 99.99% of cases, the outcome is clear. SHE IS KILLING HER OWN BABY. That is not "it might" or "perhaps". She is. She is killing her own baby, there is no "studies show" or "in large enough amounts" or "with enough exposure". The doctor will reach in there and rip the baby's limbs apart piece and piece and then suck the baby out.

So I really don't see any comparison here. Having your baby harmed by harmful substances is tragic and should be avoided. Having American babies sucked out of their mother's wombs BY THE MILLIONS EVERY YEAR, on purpose, is an atrocity.

And you know what, mind your own business. How many do you know personally who have had an abortion? You must know them all. Any of your friends, relatives, kids? You? Don't answer, its none of my business.

Some of us don't mind the heat we get from proaborts for our CHOICE to defend the rights of the children that you and your ilk are in denial of.

You know some of the people most against abortions have had one.

And?

That's because they KNOW all to well that they have killed a child and the laws were wrong to allow it.

So you admit it. They were a victim of the laws and allowed them to kill fetuses and they are only protecting everyone from doing what they did. I see, and that makes them right?? because they found God, where was he, hiding??

Biology.

That and they discovered that Unconstitutional laws can not assuage a guilty conscience.

 

[deanrd]

For the authoritarian right abortion is about compelling conformity and expanding the authority of the state at the expense of individual liberty – in this case the right to privacy.

Likewise conservatives seek to expand the authority of their corporate masters at the expense of the health and well-being of consumers.

Funny how chicken shit leftardz like you will not actually debate the claims you make.

How can you debate this:

Likewise conservatives seek to expand the authority of their corporate masters at the expense of the health and well-being of consumers.

I agree with it.

 

[SweetSue92]

Okay so the EPA regulations might occasionally catch a chemical like this, that might cause birth defects, not that I believe your claims at face value, because I don't. As we know, the EPA also issues a LOT, and I mean a LOT of regulations that are totally stifling for heaven knows why. Mixed bag.

Every SINGLE time a woman has an abortion, and I mean in 99.99% of cases, the outcome is clear. SHE IS KILLING HER OWN BABY. That is not "it might" or "perhaps". She is. She is killing her own baby, there is no "studies show" or "in large enough amounts" or "with enough exposure". The doctor will reach in there and rip the baby's limbs apart piece and piece and then suck the baby out.

So I really don't see any comparison here. Having your baby harmed by harmful substances is tragic and should be avoided. Having American babies sucked out of their mother's wombs BY THE MILLIONS EVERY YEAR, on purpose, is an atrocity.

And you know what, mind your own business. How many do you know personally who have had an abortion? You must know them all. Any of your friends, relatives, kids? You? Don't answer, its none of my business.

Some of us don't mind the heat we get from proaborts for our CHOICE to defend the rights of the children that you and your ilk are in denial of.

You know some of the people most against abortions have had one, like that young Rep wife who had one in HS, totally anti abortion now, she doesn't want anyone to get one, ok for her though, not being married and all, she was a little slut in HS.

Penny says the people who get abortions are "sluts". How fascinating Penny.

You don't really think things through do you?

I called the young Rep in HS a slut, who had an abortion in HS. I never called people who get abortions slut, only her.

Oh only her. Do show us what's in your brain, Penny. Why is she a "slut" but not other high school girls who get abortions?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I've known since I was in high school how toxic and lethal non-stick pans are. No self respecting restaurant uses them, they ruin the flavor of food.

You might as well microwave your food.


Why is any of this a surprise here?


What you are doing is constructing a straw man. Pointing out one thing that a particular political block is paid off to support, turn their head, and thus, they are hypocrites on everything else? I guess that makes you one too eh?

Like the other side is never hypocritical on anything.

Tell us how the neo-librals have stood against the too big too fail banks and kept us out of wars again?

If you choose to play politics and be partisan, pointing out others hypocrisies just make you look like a douche bag and an utter fool. I guess someone used way too much non-stick cooking wear, drank too much fluoridated water, and didn't read the warning labels on vaccines, eh?

That character was legendary!

 

[progressive hunter]

nothing like good old cast iron

 

[Oddball]

For the authoritarian right abortion is about compelling conformity and expanding the authority of the state at the expense of individual liberty – in this case the right to privacy.

Likewise conservatives seek to expand the authority of their corporate masters at the expense of the health and well-being of consumers.

Says the fascist dickweed who is all good with such expansions of authoritarianism when it suits his agenda.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

For the authoritarian right abortion is about compelling conformity and expanding the authority of the state at the expense of individual liberty – in this case the right to privacy.

Likewise conservatives seek to expand the authority of their corporate masters at the expense of the health and well-being of consumers.

Says the fascist dickweed who is all good with such expansions of authoritarianism when it suits his agenda.

And has yet to defend anything he spews.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

You are lying. I can see what she said.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Too funny.

 

[kwc57]

Pro-Life Rep. Tim Murphy Pressured Mistress to Get Abortion

Republicans also say tax cuts for billionaires really grows the economy.

You can't listen to these people. They lie.

Deanna, pull your head out of your ass sweetheart. The middle class got a tax cut and the economy is booming. All it took was Obama leaving office and letting the folks who understand how things work take over. You're welcome.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Wha

For the authoritarian right abortion is about compelling conformity and expanding the authority of the state at the expense of individual liberty – in this case the right to privacy.

Likewise conservatives seek to expand the authority of their corporate masters at the expense of the health and well-being of consumers.

What does a woman aborting a man’s baby without his consent have to do with privacy?

A fetus can give consent? Who knew

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Until conservatives can refute anything George Carlin said about their so-called pro-abortion stances, hush...

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Abortion really has nothing to do with teflon cooking pots.