Consequence Culture - Gina Carano, Colin Kaepernick, The Dixie Chicks and Jane Fonda

[JoeB131]

You said you "keep track" of them.

LinkedIn is only one way to do that. Given the type of personality you are, it would surprise no one if you used other means to "keep track" of them...

I'm sure there are. A lot of them keep in touch with me by email. some on facebook. Some of them I hear about after one of their friends say, "Hey, Mary Smith gave me your number". Some of them come back second and third times when they need updates.

 

[Canon Shooter]

If they're off the clock and off company premises? I don't care what they talk about.

But Peter and Jack both know that they're jeopardizing their jobs by having such a discussion under my roof, because workplace rules do not allow it...

So...an employee can't pray over lunch?

I've not encountered that yet.

In the interest of continuity, though, I would say probably not...

It seems all he will have to do is to stand out of the gates for a couple of yards and take his time.

I would even be inclined to give such a person a little bit of a longer lunch break...

 

[Canon Shooter]

You said you "keep track" of them.

LinkedIn is only one way to do that. Given the type of personality you are, it would surprise no one if you used other means to "keep track" of them...

I'm sure there are. A lot of them keep in touch with me by email. some on facebook. Some of them I hear about after one of their friends say, "Hey, Mary Smith gave me your number". Some of them come back second and third times when they need updates.

I wish I could believe you.

But you're a liar, so...

 

[Soupnazi630]

There was nothing anywhere in any of her posts which was transphobic or anti semetic.

When you have a name like "Soup Nazi", I can't take you seriously on what isn't "anti-semetic."

COlin Kaepermich was fired because he was second rate not because of his kneeling crap and his kneeling crap was trivial compared to his other vile actions such as defending convicted murderers and communism.

Okay. He was fired for kneeling. Deal with it.

Fonda supported the enemy and helped torment our POWS.

Really? YOu mean she went down and tortured people? Or she just showed up in their country and showed, "Hey, this is what your tax dollars are paying for."

The Dixie Chucks are doing well in their career and were never censored

Actually, no. The stopped charting after that and had to change genres.

With such low intelligence you cannot distinguish between a sitcom character and a nazi NO ONE takes you seriously.

She said nothing anti semetic and that is fact but we have already proven long ago thast you are a dunce who knows nothing of history.

He was not fired for kneeling and that is fact he was fired because he was simply not a great player in comparison to others. He was second rate,

The Dixie Chuncks are still touring and doing quite well they had to do nothing and were never censored.

She supported the enemy killing and toruring our POWs she is the worst sort of scum.

 

[ESay]

If they're off the clock and off company premises? I don't care what they talk about.

But Peter and Jack both know that they're jeopardizing their jobs by having such a discussion under my roof, because workplace rules do not allow it...

So...an employee can't pray over lunch?

I've not encountered that yet.

In the interest of continuity, though, I would say probably not...

It seems all he will have to do is to stand out of the gates for a couple of yards and take his time.

I would even be inclined to give such a person a little bit of a longer lunch break...

That is good, but the situation seems to be absurd. Peter is praying at the front of your gates and he gets extra hours for a lunch, but Jack does the same several yards farther from him inside the territory and he can well be fired.

 

[Canon Shooter]

If they're off the clock and off company premises? I don't care what they talk about.

But Peter and Jack both know that they're jeopardizing their jobs by having such a discussion under my roof, because workplace rules do not allow it...

So...an employee can't pray over lunch?

I've not encountered that yet.

In the interest of continuity, though, I would say probably not...

It seems all he will have to do is to stand out of the gates for a couple of yards and take his time.

I would even be inclined to give such a person a little bit of a longer lunch break...

That is good, but the situation seems to be absurd. Peter is praying at the front of your gates and he gets extra hours for a lunch, but Jack does the same several yards farther from him inside the territory and he can well be fired.

Jack can join Peter.

And he'd get, maybe, an extra 10 or 15 minutes. Not "hours"...

 

[ESay]

If they're off the clock and off company premises? I don't care what they talk about.

But Peter and Jack both know that they're jeopardizing their jobs by having such a discussion under my roof, because workplace rules do not allow it...

So...an employee can't pray over lunch?

I've not encountered that yet.

In the interest of continuity, though, I would say probably not...

It seems all he will have to do is to stand out of the gates for a couple of yards and take his time.

I would even be inclined to give such a person a little bit of a longer lunch break...

That is good, but the situation seems to be absurd. Peter is praying at the front of your gates and he gets extra hours for a lunch, but Jack does the same several yards farther from him inside the territory and he can well be fired.

Jack can join Peter.

And he'd get, maybe, an extra 10 or 15 minutes. Not "hours"...

Okay, so I should ask the question I asked before. What was the reason to set such rules? If they change nothing on practice.

 

[Canon Shooter]

If they're off the clock and off company premises? I don't care what they talk about.

But Peter and Jack both know that they're jeopardizing their jobs by having such a discussion under my roof, because workplace rules do not allow it...

So...an employee can't pray over lunch?

I've not encountered that yet.

In the interest of continuity, though, I would say probably not...

It seems all he will have to do is to stand out of the gates for a couple of yards and take his time.

I would even be inclined to give such a person a little bit of a longer lunch break...

That is good, but the situation seems to be absurd. Peter is praying at the front of your gates and he gets extra hours for a lunch, but Jack does the same several yards farther from him inside the territory and he can well be fired.

Jack can join Peter.

And he'd get, maybe, an extra 10 or 15 minutes. Not "hours"...

Okay, so I should ask the question I asked before. What was the reason to set such rules? If they change nothing on practice.

Nothing riles emotions more than disagreements on politics or religion. I won't allow such disagreements in my place of business...

 

[ESay]

If they're off the clock and off company premises? I don't care what they talk about.

But Peter and Jack both know that they're jeopardizing their jobs by having such a discussion under my roof, because workplace rules do not allow it...

So...an employee can't pray over lunch?

I've not encountered that yet.

In the interest of continuity, though, I would say probably not...

It seems all he will have to do is to stand out of the gates for a couple of yards and take his time.

I would even be inclined to give such a person a little bit of a longer lunch break...

That is good, but the situation seems to be absurd. Peter is praying at the front of your gates and he gets extra hours for a lunch, but Jack does the same several yards farther from him inside the territory and he can well be fired.

Jack can join Peter.

And he'd get, maybe, an extra 10 or 15 minutes. Not "hours"...

Okay, so I should ask the question I asked before. What was the reason to set such rules? If they change nothing on practice.

Nothing riles emotions more than disagreements on politics or religion. I won't allow such disagreements in my place of business...

Well, of course it is your right as an employer to set the rules on your property. But from my point of view, as a hired worker, I find them awkward and meaningless.

 

[Canon Shooter]

If they're off the clock and off company premises? I don't care what they talk about.

But Peter and Jack both know that they're jeopardizing their jobs by having such a discussion under my roof, because workplace rules do not allow it...

So...an employee can't pray over lunch?

I've not encountered that yet.

In the interest of continuity, though, I would say probably not...

It seems all he will have to do is to stand out of the gates for a couple of yards and take his time.

I would even be inclined to give such a person a little bit of a longer lunch break...

That is good, but the situation seems to be absurd. Peter is praying at the front of your gates and he gets extra hours for a lunch, but Jack does the same several yards farther from him inside the territory and he can well be fired.

Jack can join Peter.

And he'd get, maybe, an extra 10 or 15 minutes. Not "hours"...

Okay, so I should ask the question I asked before. What was the reason to set such rules? If they change nothing on practice.

Nothing riles emotions more than disagreements on politics or religion. I won't allow such disagreements in my place of business...

Well, of course it is your right as an employer to set the rules on your property. But from my point of view, as a hired worker, I find them awkward and meaningless.

I see.

I don't care.

Tell me, what would be the benefit of allowing such discussions on company time?

 

[ESay]

If they're off the clock and off company premises? I don't care what they talk about.

But Peter and Jack both know that they're jeopardizing their jobs by having such a discussion under my roof, because workplace rules do not allow it...

So...an employee can't pray over lunch?

I've not encountered that yet.

In the interest of continuity, though, I would say probably not...

It seems all he will have to do is to stand out of the gates for a couple of yards and take his time.

I would even be inclined to give such a person a little bit of a longer lunch break...

That is good, but the situation seems to be absurd. Peter is praying at the front of your gates and he gets extra hours for a lunch, but Jack does the same several yards farther from him inside the territory and he can well be fired.

Jack can join Peter.

And he'd get, maybe, an extra 10 or 15 minutes. Not "hours"...

Okay, so I should ask the question I asked before. What was the reason to set such rules? If they change nothing on practice.

Nothing riles emotions more than disagreements on politics or religion. I won't allow such disagreements in my place of business...

Well, of course it is your right as an employer to set the rules on your property. But from my point of view, as a hired worker, I find them awkward and meaningless.

I see.

I don't care.

Tell me, what would be the benefit of allowing such discussions on company time?

If the workers are doing their job, all private discussions can be prohibited. Because they can lead away from fulfilling the duties properly. No matter about politics, religion, haircuts or hot chicks someone picked up the day before.

But when the time is off, during a lunch or when the shifts are changing, it has little sense. It doesn't affect the working process and personal qualities are much more important in a working environment than political or religious views.

 

[Canon Shooter]

If the workers are doing their job, all private discussions can be prohibited. Because they can lead away from fulfilling the duties properly. No matter about politics, religion, haircuts or hot chicks someone picked up the day before.

I have no problem with people talking about last night's ball game, or cars or whatever.

But politics and religion are on my third rail. In my 58 years I have seen countless instances where the discussion of either of those two topics has gone way past "heated" and turned into actual fights. You may like that dynamic in your work place. I don't like it in mine, and I won't allow it...

But when the time is off, during a lunch or when the shifts are changing, it has little sense. It doesn't affect the working process and personal qualities are much more important in a working environment than political or religious views.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Religious beliefs are some of the most personal qualities people can have.

 

[ESay]

If the workers are doing their job, all private discussions can be prohibited. Because they can lead away from fulfilling the duties properly. No matter about politics, religion, haircuts or hot chicks someone picked up the day before.

I have no problem with people talking about last night's ball game, or cars or whatever.

But politics and religion are on my third rail. In my 58 years I have seen countless instances where the discussion of either of those two topics has gone way past "heated" and turned into actual fights. You may like that dynamic in your work place. I don't like it in mine, and I won't allow it...

But when the time is off, during a lunch or when the shifts are changing, it has little sense. It doesn't affect the working process and personal qualities are much more important in a working environment than political or religious views.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Religious beliefs are some of the most personal qualities people can have.

Well, maybe we live in too different societies (not maybe, but that is for sure. Our societies have absolutely different cultural backgrounds).

Though, the society I live in is also highly polarized, but I have never seen the fights over political or religious preferences on working places.

Saying about personal qualities I meant fairness, treatment of other people, honesty/dishonesty etc.

 

[JusticeHammer]

So we've seen a few threads on these boards about how Gina Carano was fired by Disney after she repeatedly posted racist, conspiratorial and transphobic memes on Twitter, and someone decided that she wasn't the best person to have on your Fun Space Adventure for the Whole Family. Yes, after spending 4 BILLION to buy the rights to Star Wars, they didn't want some third tier actor dragging them into controversy they didn't need.

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Fun Space Adventure... Calling them "Younglings" so you don't have to say, "Killed Children"

Anyway, the Right Wing has gone apoplectic over this. How dare we punish this poor woman for merely expressing her opinion.

Of course, these were the same people who insisted that the NFL Fire Colin Kaepernick because he took a knee protesting police misconduct and killing of black people.

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Eventually, he was proven right when the country exploded into riots after George Floyd was murdered. Even big corporations got in on the act.

Then there were the Dixie Chicks. Remember them? They were a country band that expressed the opinion that our war with Iraq over weapons that didn't exist was probably a bad idea. (Actually, only one of them did, but they all paid for it.

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Eventually, they were proven right. Heck, you'd be hard pressed to find a Right Winger today who would argue the Iraq War was a good idea.

Then there was the grandmother of all "Cancel Culture", Jane Fonda. You remember Jane? She was the one who said our undeclared war in Vietnam was a terrible idea. Even humanized the people we were mercilessly bombing by visiting them.

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Well, she was proven right. The war was a bad idea. Not that it did her any good, people still denounced her as "Hanoi Jane" and her career was pretty much over by 1980.

Point is, the Right Wing was for Cancel Culture (really, "Consequence Culture") before they were against it.

So let the right wing outrage begin!!!

Jane fonda is a traitorous *****. Kolin kapernic is a spoiled rich crybaby. The vietnam war by the way was a demscum war, lyndon johnson was a doltard.

 

[Canon Shooter]

Though, the society I live in is also highly polarized, but I have never seen the fights over political or religious preferences on working places.

Well, I certainly have, and it would be irresponsible of me as a business owner to ignore that it happens...

 

[Mac-7]

Actually, it just resulted in a lot of mockery because he so trivialized his faith.

Tebow was a target of the godless left because he dared to believe in Jesus

Thats very threatening to libs

 

[JoeB131]

I wish I could believe you.

But you're a liar, so...

Says the guy who changed his story three times about why he fired someone.

 

[JoeB131]

Jane fonda is a traitorous *****. Kolin kapernic is a spoiled rich crybaby. The vietnam war by the way was a demscum war, lyndon johnson was a doltard.

Sadly, the Vietnam War was one where both parties agreed. Ike sent the first troops there, and Goldwater wanted to turn it into a parking lot. Nixon escalated the war trying to get the Vietnamese to the table.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Nothing riles emotions more than disagreements on politics or religion. I won't allow such disagreements in my place of business...

So...do you openly state "no Muslims need apply" or do you keep that sub rosa?

 

[Jarlaxle]

I see.

I don't care.

Tell me, what would be the benefit of allowing such discussions on company time?

Not getting sued, mostly.