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[Canon Shooter]

Real business, never would have gotten that far. Frankly, when I had to travel, I had to document everything I did.

So do my people.

This clown simply said he was entertaining his clients when, in fact, he was entertaining someone who wasn't his client.

I suppose if I were a micro-manager maybe I'd have figured it out immediately, but I don't operate like that.

In the end, though, it all worked out. He now has a felony record, he had to pay restitution, his reputation is, much like yours, complete dogshit and we still enjoy a valuable relationship with the other company...

Sounds to me like your rinky-dink little company didn't have clear titles or responsibilities... honestly, this sounds more and more fishy.

You honestly are the most retarded person I've ever encountered.

We have very clear titles with very clear responsibilities. He simply tried swinging outside his weight class, and he got caught...

Actually, it sounds as fishy as hell. Seriously, you hired someone who was a crook, he stole a lot of money from you misrepresenting himself to a major customer who you think would KNOW who the officers of your company were before they started lavishing bribes on them.

Again, you don't have all of the facts, so every time you make a guess you only make yourself look more ******* stupid...

I was a buyer for years

Bullshit...

if somene showed up and said to me, "Hey, I'm the New COO of EvilCo and I'm going to buy you a trip to Hawaii", I'd be a little suspicious. I think I might even make a call to whoever I had been dealing with at your company and said, "Um, what's up with this guy?"

I can't speak as to why the person he was entertaining didn't do that and, if I could, I wouldn't...

Wow. That impresses me even less. In Chicago, facilities managers can make up to 140K a year.

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Do you put a lot of effort into being this clueless? Because it seems to come rather effortlessly to you.

Chicago has a population that is ten times the size of our entire county and the cost of living in Chicago is much higher. Furthermore, as stated o n YOUR link, the salary range for a facilities manager in Chicago starts at right around $90K. You're a dishonest little ****, though, and you didn't want to admit that, despite the much higher cost of living, a facilities manager in Chicago may only make $5,000 more a year than a facilities manager in my county.

So, yeah, if my company were in Chicago, yeah, I imagine I'd be paying my facilities manager more.

Thank you for that, Captain Obvious...

I doubt you are paying your buyers anything close to what I used to make before I struck out on my own consulting business.

I strongly suspect that's all you've ever succeeded at: striking out.

No one wants to hire a dishonest liar, and that, by your own admission, is what you are...

 

[JoeB131]

This clown simply said he was entertaining his clients when, in fact, he was entertaining someone who wasn't his client.

I suppose if I were a micro-manager maybe I'd have figured it out immediately, but I don't operate like that.

you just said you listen in our your employees to make sure they aren't talking politics and religion.

We have very clear titles with very clear responsibilities. He simply tried swinging outside his weight class, and he got caught...

Obviously, you didn't if the guy was that far off the reservation...but since you aren't telling the whole story, we can fill in the blanks.

Chicago has a population that is ten times the size of our entire county and the cost of living in Chicago is much higher.

Um, yeah, I live in a place that actually has stuff happening in it.... I doubt you'd last a week outside of podunk county.

Furthermore, as stated o n YOUR link, the salary range for a facilities manager in Chicago starts at right around $90K. You're a dishonest little ****, though, and you didn't want to admit that, despite the much higher cost of living, a facilities manager in Chicago may only make $5,000 more a year than a facilities manager in my county.

So, yeah, if my company were in Chicago, yeah, I imagine I'd be paying my facilities manager more.

So what are you paying your purchasing agents? I think that's the big question. I promise you, it isn't what I used to make.

I strongly suspect that's all you've ever succeeded at: striking out.

Well, you'd be wrong as usual. I had a pretty good career in the army, advanced pretty consistently in the logistics supply chain field and now I run my own business. Mind you, I don't have a bunch of employees who are sort of desperate....

 

[Canon Shooter]

you just said you listen in our your employees to make sure they aren't talking politics and religion.

Liar.

I've never made that statement...

Obviously, you didn't if the guy was that far off the reservation...but since you aren't telling the whole story, we can fill in the blanks.

He tried to game the system to his advantage; hardly the first time anyone in the history of American business has tried it, and doubtful it'll be the last.

As for filling in the blanks, **** you. I'd rather watch you make ignorant assumptions and prove how retarded you are than give you all the details. I've little reason to share such info with a worthless, lying piece of shit douchebag like you...

Um, yeah, I live in a place that actually has stuff happening in it.... I doubt you'd last a week outside of podunk county.

I'm 58 years old.

I've only been in this county seven years, but my businesses started 15 years ago. I moved them out of California because, well, California. I ran my businesses, successfully, in San Diego County, population about 3 million...

So what are you paying your purchasing agents? I think that's the big question. I promise you, it isn't what I used to make.

Again, I'll just sit back and watch you talk about your fantasy salary. I know you'd like to know, so **** you. If I told you I paid them $50K you'd mock it. If I told you I paid them $500K, you'd mock that.

See, that's what a posting history does. It allows people to see how disingenuous you are. I already know what your response will be, so there's no reason for me to share such information with you.

Well, you'd be wrong as usual. I had a pretty good career in the army, advanced pretty consistently in the logistics supply chain field and now I run my own business. Mind you, I don't have a bunch of employees who are sort of desperate...

My people are far from desperate.

And I don't believe for a second that you run your own business. You're probably some minimum-wage lackey down at the local Jiffy Chef, trying to act real important on the internet.

You know what's funny?

If you hadn't been a complete prick, I'd probably share more information with you. But watching your mental flailing as you try to pretend you kn ow anything about me or my businesses is funny. I'd rather see you make yourself look like an ass (which you've done a bang up job at) than converse with you about the specifics at hand...

 

[JoeB131]

He tried to game the system to his advantage; hardly the first time anyone in the history of American business has tried it, and doubtful it'll be the last.

As for filling in the blanks, **** you. I'd rather watch you make ignorant assumptions and prove how retarded you are than give you all the details. I've little reason to share such info with a worthless, lying piece of shit douchebag like you...

yeah, probably better than admitting you are a D-lister whose employees are putting one over on him.

Again, I'll just sit back and watch you talk about your fantasy salary. I know you'd like to know, so **** you. If I told you I paid them $50K you'd mock it. If I told you I paid them $500K, you'd mock that.

See, that's what a posting history does. It allows people to see how disingenuous you are. I already know what your response will be, so there's no reason for me to share such information with you.

Meh, no, I know exactly what I was making when I did purchasing... I'm just amused that you had to go with two unrelated positions to brag on yourself.

And I don't believe for a second that you run your own business. You're probably some minimum-wage lackey down at the local Jiffy Chef, trying to act real important on the internet.

Yet you are the one taking this personally, for whatever reason. YOu've really invested too much in this conversation... I think much like your hero Trump, your narcissism is toxic.

 

[Canon Shooter]

yeah, probably better than admitting you are a D-lister whose employees are putting one over on him.

I guess you misssed tghe part where he was caught and prosecuted.

That's because you're a ******* retard...

Meh, no, I know exactly what I was making when I did purchasing... I'm just amused that you had to go with two unrelated positions to brag on yourself.

You've never done purchasing. It's clear that you're not nearly that intelligent...

Yet you are the one taking this personally, for whatever reason. YOu've really invested too much in this conversation... I think much like your hero Trump, your narcissism is toxic.

In order for me to take it personally, I would need to care about your opinion.

Seeing as you're nothing but a self-admitted scumbag liar, your opinion means nothing...[/QUOTE]

 

[JoeB131]

I guess you misssed tghe part where he was caught and prosecuted.

That's because you're a ******* retard...

A good manager never would have let it get that far.

You've never done purchasing. It's clear that you're not nearly that intelligent...

Been doing it for 20 years... but you do go on.

In order for me to take it personally, I would need to care about your opinion.

Seeing as you're nothing but a self-admitted scumbag liar, your opinion means nothing..

Right, that's why you're following me around from thread to thread...

I probably should have realized how fragile your D-list ego was.

 

[Canon Shooter]

A good manager never would have let it get that far.

A good manager makes sure he has his ducks in a row before accusing someone of wrongdoing. My accounting team made sure they had strong evidence before they brought it to me.

When we laid it all out for him you could hear the gasp of air escape him. We nailed him. We nailed him, he knew it, and all was made right with the world.

That's what good managers do. God only knows what a dipshit like you would've done...

Been doing it for 20 years... but you do go on.

All you've done for 20 years is run your mouth...

Right, that's why you're following me around from thread to thread...

LOL!!

Doofuss, I do nothing of the sort...

I probably should have realized how fragile your D-list ego was.

Again, not knowing anything about my business, your opinion means dick. All you have is the nonsensical bullshit you belch up in a jealous rage because you realize you're unsuccessful and, in all probability, will always be so.

You're a sad little man who lives vicariously through others but, left to your own devices, you're nothing...

 

[JoeB131]

A good manager makes sure he has his ducks in a row before accusing someone of wrongdoing. My accounting team made sure they had strong evidence before they brought it to me.

When we laid it all out for him you could hear the gasp of air escape him. We nailed him. We nailed him, he knew it, and all was made right with the world.

That's what good managers do. God only knows what a dipshit like you would've done...

A good manager never would have hired him to start with, because he would have done proper vetting before hiring him.

Again, not knowing anything about my business, your opinion means dick. All you have is the nonsensical bullshit you belch up in a jealous rage because you realize you're unsuccessful and, in all probability, will always be so.

I have to go by what you say...

You stick your nose in the personal business of your employees.
You fire people for conversations that have nothing to so with work.
And one of your sales reps ran up a bunch of bills because he was poorly supervised.

Keeping in mind you are spinning this story where you are the hero, I'm sure that the reality is much, much, much worse.

 

[Canon Shooter]

A good manager never would have hired him to start with, because he would have done proper vetting before hiring him.

Based on his resume, his references and his interview there was no reason not to hire him. There was nothing which indicated he'd do something like this.

At some point while working at my company, he decided to go rogue.

You're an idiot and a fool if you think that doesn't happen from time to time...

I have to go by what you say...

Yes, you do...

You stick your nose in the personal business of your employees.

My employees see it differently. They appreciate the fact that "the boss" takes an interest. If they were to tell me it made them uncomfortable, I would stop.

And they know that.

So, again, your opinion means dick...

You fire people for conversations that have nothing to so with work.

No, I don't.

There's a zero tolerance policy on the topics of religion and politics. That's all. If two guys want to talk about a football game or cars or whatever while they work, I have little problem with that, so long as there's no negative impact on their work...

And one of your sales reps ran up a bunch of bills because he was poorly supervised.

Again, you don't have, nor will you have, all the facts, so your opinion means, let's say it together: DICK...

Keeping in mind you are spinning this story where you are the hero, I'm sure that the reality is much, much, much worse.

I'm hardly a hero. I'm a guy who owns two successful businesses staffed with people who, save for that one jerk-off, are happy at work. It's hard to ask for more than that from your people. If they're happy they're going to produce. If they're happy it means you're doing something right. Well, not you, of course. You've never had people who worked for you and, if you did, they'd be ******* miserable.

Every single one of your posts smacks with jealousy. You see someone who's done pretty well, and you're angry that you're just too big a **** up to be even half as successful. It's okay, it really is. For all I've accomplished in my life, I know there are others who've accomplished far more than I. I also know there are people who, in their wildest dreams, will never be more than some hourly drone who can only be content with wishing they weren't complete **** ups.

You know, people like you...

 

[JoeB131]

Based on his resume, his references and his interview there was no reason not to hire him. There was nothing which indicated he'd do something like this.

At some point while working at my company, he decided to go rogue.

You're an idiot and a fool if you think that doesn't happen from time to time...

I've never seen it happen. I have seen managers make up bullshit stories to justify firing employees, though.

There's a zero tolerance policy on the topics of religion and politics. That's all. If two guys want to talk about a football game or cars or whatever while they work, I have little problem with that, so long as there's no negative impact on their work...

Again, why is any of this your business? I mean, if your employees are taking swings at each other over Transubstantiation, it's probably because you have a toxic work environment.

I'm hardly a hero. I'm a guy who owns two successful businesses staffed with people who, save for that one jerk-off, are happy at work. It's hard to ask for more than that from your people. If they're happy they're going to produce. If they're happy it means you're doing something right. Well, not you, of course. You've never had people who worked for you and, if you did, they'd be ******* miserable.

I understand people in East Germany were really happy, too.

Actually, I have had people who worked for me when I was a supervisor in the 90's. Most of them were happy because they knew I had their back. In fact, I was able to keep my core team together for nearly two years in a place where other teams were blowing through people like Red Shirts on Star Trek.

Every single one of your posts smacks with jealousy. You see someone who's done pretty well, and you're angry that you're just too big a **** up to be even half as successful. It's okay, it really is. For all I've accomplished in my life, I know there are others who've accomplished far more than I. I also know there are people who, in their wildest dreams, will never be more than some hourly drone who can only be content with wishing they weren't complete **** ups.

Wouldn't know, I haven't worked "hourly" since the 1990's... I've been on salary since 2000. But the fact that you show such contempt for working people is probably why you would be horrible to work for.

Like most bullies, the worst thing in your life is someone who stands up to you.

 

[Canon Shooter]

I've never seen it happen.

Well, you're hardly the bellweather for what occurs in business, so this is not surprising...

I have seen managers make up bullshit stories to justify firing employees, though.

I don't have to justify anything. I can fire someone for wearing red sneakers if I want to.

I don't doubt, though, that you've had plenty of managers fire you...

Again, why is any of this your business?

It's my house, that's why...

I mean, if your employees are taking swings at each other over Transubstantiation, it's probably because you have a toxic work environment.

No, it means that they're discussing a volatile topic.

They don't have to come to blows for it to be a problem...

understand people in East Germany were really happy, too.

Actually, I have had people who worked for me when I was a supervisor in the 90's. Most of them were happy because they knew I had their back.

Do you even think about what you're posting, or are you suffering from some sort on internet Tourette's where you just blurt shit out?

In trying to make me look bad, you just made yourself look every bit as bad, only you also look stupid...

In fact, I was able to keep my core team together for nearly two years

"Nearly two years"? Like almost a whole two years?

And you're proud of that?

That's ******* pathetic.

My core team has two people who've been with me since day one (15 years now), three who've been with me over ten years (they get a nice watch when they hit that mark, too) and one for seven years.

Bragging about "nearly two years" is ******* sad.

But it tells me more about you. You couldn't even reach the two year mark.

Talk about a shitty manager...

in a place where other teams were blowing through people like Red Shirts on Star Trek.

I have no idea what that means but, then again, I'm an adult living in the real world and not trying to exist in some fantasyland.

Seriously, so much more about you is coming into focus as a result of this latest post of yours...

Wouldn't know, I haven't worked "hourly" since the 1990's... I've been on salary since 2000. But the fact that you show such contempt for working people is probably why you would be horrible to work for.

I don't show contempt to hourly workers. I'd show contempt to you, though...

Like most bullies, the worst thing in your life is someone who stands up to you.

Well, I welcome that. As soon as you find someone with the sack to do that, send him my way, because you're beginning to get boring as ****...

 

[JoeB131]

Well, you're hardly the bellweather for what occurs in business, so this is not surprising...

Except I've worked for multi-national corporations... you not so much.

"Nearly two years"? Like almost a whole two years?

And you're proud of that?

GIven what that company was like, um, yeah. It was actually an accomplishment, given the second shift couldn't keep people for more than a couple of months. The went through five shift supervisors in a year before I got the job, and I had to build an effective team, which I did. Meanwhile, going back to "everyone lies", the reason it wasn't longer was because the owners of the company decided to move operations to Wisconsin and lie to us about it until they were ready to go. They shot themselves in the foot, because the found the couldn't really compete in Chicago without a presence in Chicago.

I don't show contempt to hourly workers. I'd show contempt to you, though...

Yes, I'm living in your head rent free... How many threads did you have to look through to find one where you could go into off topic rants because I hurt your little feelings, buddy.

Did you spend all day in your office muttering how you couldn't wait to get home to show me?

Well, I welcome that. As soon as you find someone with the sack to do that, send him my way, because you're beginning to get boring as ****...

Sure, buddy, that's why you are engaging in cyber-stalking.

 

[JoeB131]

I don't have to justify anything. I can fire someone for wearing red sneakers if I want to.

I don't doubt, though, that you've had plenty of managers fire you...

Actually, only once. And that was because they found out I was shopping my resume.

But you are making my whole point. You shouldn't be able to fire someone because he's wearing red sneakers. Or because he's talking about politics in the lunch room. You should only have the right to do that if you legitimately have a complaint, and retraining didn't work out. This is why every company should have a mandatory union presence. Because shit stains like you are bosses.

 

[Canon Shooter]

Except I've worked for multi-national corporations... you not so much.

I've worked for one, from 2001, when I retired from the military, to 2006, when I left to start my own business(es) in a completely different field. The President of the company I worked for is probably the most respected in his field, and everything I know about owning and running my own company I learned from him. He used to walk around and ask people how they were and how their family was. No one ever saw that as "prying". He's the one who, as a devout Christian, first put an unwaverable moratorium on political and religious discussions at the workplace. He was the son of a US Navy Boatswain's Mate and he never went to college.

He now owns a $125 million a year company.

He's one of the smartest men I've ever known...

GIven what that company was like, um, yeah. It was actually an accomplishment, given the second shift couldn't keep people for more than a couple of months. The went through five shift supervisors in a year before I got the job, and I had to build an effective team, which I did. Meanwhile, going back to "everyone lies", the reason it wasn't longer was because the owners of the company decided to move operations to Wisconsin and lie to us about it until they were ready to go. They shot themselves in the foot, because the found the couldn't really compete in Chicago without a presence in Chicago.

Two years; Hell, not even two years, is nothing to beat your chest over...

Yes, I'm living in your head rent free... How many threads did you have to look through to find one where you could go into off topic rants because I hurt your little feelings, buddy.

LOL!

Not a single one, actually...

Did you spend all day in your office muttering how you couldn't wait to get home to show me?

Not hardly.

I was out on my buddy's boat fishing off the shelf today.

Come to think of it, I didn't think about you until I saw your whiny little rants here this afternoon...

Sure, buddy, that's why you are engaging in cyber-stalking.

You've got serious issues, dipshit. I'd recommend professional counseling of some sort...

 

[Canon Shooter]

Actually, only once. And that was because they found out I was shopping my resume.

Only pieces of shit get fired...

But you are making my whole point. You shouldn't be able to fire someone because he's wearing red sneakers. Or because he's talking about politics in the lunch room.

The **** I shouldn't.

It's my name on company letterhead. It's my money in the company bank accounts. If I want to fire you because the Jets had another losing season, guess what? You're getting shit-canned.

But just because I can do that doesn't mean I do...

You should only have the right to do that if you legitimately have a complaint, and retraining didn't work out. This is why every company should have a mandatory union presence. Because shit stains like you are bosses.

Well, when I consider how many people I've seen voluntarily leave my employ over the last 15 years, I'm comfortable knowing that, as a company owner and "boss" my employees are pretty goddamn happy. They don't need to unionize. They don't want to unionize. They enjoy working for me. Aside from that, I can't think of a single company in my field which is unionized.

So, yeah, let's see what we've learned:

1) You don't have a clue what you're talking about
2) You're dishonest in your business dealings
3) You're an admitted liar (undoubtedly helps you with #2)
4) You lack the skills and talent to keep a "core team" together for very long
5) You're a whiny snit
6) **** you

Yeah, I'd say that about sums it up...

 

[JoeB131]

Two years; Hell, not even two years, is nothing to beat your chest over...

Given what was going on with that company and that industry, yes, yes, it was.

The **** I shouldn't.

It's my name on company letterhead. It's my money in the company bank accounts. If I want to fire you because the Jets had another losing season, guess what? You're getting shit-canned.

But just because I can do that doesn't mean I do...

Uh, no, guy. Workers should have rights and protections.... That's the whole point. Business owners who can't deal with that shouldn't be business owners. America was a MUCH better place when we had strong unions and government took the side of the workers. You know, before the Republicans fucked everything up and then put on MAGA hats without admitting they were the reason why American ceased to be "Great".

The thing that should ABSOLUTELY scare the shit out of you is how close Bernie Sanders got, twice. Some crazy socialist appealed to a lot of people because people like you have made America a shit sandwich for the working man.

But, no, let's not do any introspection. Let's be angry because Joe hurt my feelings on the internet.

Well, when I consider how many people I've seen voluntarily leave my employ over the last 15 years, I'm comfortable knowing that, as a company owner and "boss" my employees are pretty goddamn happy. They don't need to unionize. They don't want to unionize. They enjoy working for me. Aside from that, I can't think of a single company in my field which is unionized.

Uh, yeah, guy, Happy like East German Workers were happy. Shit, if I worked for a guy who would fire my co-workers on a whim or even file criminal charges because of his bad management, I'd pretend to be happy, too. Right until I was halfway out the door. Of course, you said you moved out of California to Podunk County in some Red State because you didn't like operating in a state where workers still had a few rights.

So let's review.

1) You suck at interviewing people.
2) You fire people on a whim.
3) You really hate the thought that workers might have rights.
4) You weirdly stalk people who hurt your sensitive feelings.
5) You really are a piece of shit.
6) **** you.

 

[Canon Shooter]

Given what was going on with that company and that industry, yes, yes, it was.

So, what you're saying is that you really didn't improve the situation at all. If you were as shit-hot as you'd like people here to believe, you'd have put two years in your rear view mirror and gone for five, at least. Two years is a failure.

The bottom line is that you failed to keep a team together for even two years...

Uh, no, guy. Workers should have rights and protections.... That's the whole point. Business owners who can't deal with that shouldn't be business owners. America was a MUCH better place when we had strong unions and government took the side of the workers. You know, before the Republicans fucked everything up and then put on MAGA hats without admitting they were the reason why American ceased to be "Great".

The problem with that is asshats like you who believe that workers should have ALL the rights and business owners should act on the whim of the union.

**** that, and **** you.

If unions were interested in being fair, it would be a different story. But shitheads like you don't want business owners to have any rights whatsoever, and that just won't fly.

It's not my job to make sure someone has a place to work. It's my job to produce a product and a service, and I'm pretty much at the top of my game in that regard. The fact that my people don't want to leave, and that dismissals are few and far between, is all I need to know that unionizing would be a worthless endeavor here...

The thing that should ABSOLUTELY scare the shit out of you is how close Bernie Sanders got, twice. Some crazy socialist appealed to a lot of people because people like you have made America a shit sandwich for the working man.

I'm 58 years old. I'm fortunate to be in a position where I can shut it all down and retire tomorrow. If the state of Florida were to mandate that I had to allow my workers to unionize, that's exactly what would happen.

But I'm confident my employees would throw whatever union rep showed up out on his ass.

See, again, my people are happy. I keep them happy. They're paid better than most in the same position at other companies. They've got benefits out the ass, 401K (and the company matches that to 8%; the norm is 6%), two weeks paid vacation after their first year (as opposed to one week, which is standard), and that's in addition to the shutdowns we do around the Christmas holidays and 4th of July), employee purchase program (they can buy our products at manufacturer cost plus 15%; which is simply unheard of in the industry).

Every employee in the company has received an annual bonus equal to double their pre-tax monthly pay for the last nine years.

We offer three $10,000 college scholarships a year to children of our employees (they're awarded every year at our Christmas party). If an employee wants to go back to school, and his or her course of study is applicable to the workplace and will increase that employees value to the company, the company covers half the tuition and the cost of all books.

Headhunters don't really bother with contacting people at either of my companies only because they know there's a snowball's chance in Hell that they can get them...

But, no, let's not do any introspection. Let's be angry because Joe hurt my feelings on the internet.

Is that what you think you did? Oh, Joey, no. No, you didn't, sport. Apologies for having given you that impression...

Uh, yeah, guy, Happy like East German Workers were happy. Shit, if I worked for a guy who would fire my co-workers on a whim or even file criminal charges because of his bad management, I'd pretend to be happy, too.

Again, dipshit, as I said: Just because I can fire someone on a whim doesn't mean I do...

Right until I was halfway out the door. Of course, you said you moved out of California to Podunk County in some Red State because you didn't like operating in a state where workers still had a few rights.

No, I moved to a red state because the taxes on business in California were stupid-ridiculous.

We're now in Florida, where there's also no state income tax. My employees LOVE that, because not only are they paid more than the industry norm, they get to keep more of it, too.

So let's review:

1) You suck at interviewing people.

One person out of how many I've interviewed over 15 years? I'd say that's a strong track record. It also demonstrates that you know dick about interviewing potential employees...

2) You fire people on a whim.

Ah, there's the liar I was waiting for...

3) You really hate the thought that workers might have rights.

Not at all. I simply believe that workers can have rights without oppressive unions representing them...

4) You weirdly stalk people who hurt your sensitive feelings.

Yeah, no...

5) You really are a piece of shit.

If you mattered, that might bother me...

6) **** you.

Run out of your own material?

 

[JoeB131]

So, what you're saying is that you really didn't improve the situation at all. If you were as shit-hot as you'd like people here to believe, you'd have put two years in your rear view mirror and gone for five, at least. Two years is a failure.

The bottom line is that you failed to keep a team together for even two years...

I fantastically improved it in terms of inventory accuracy, employee retention, fulfilled orders, warehouse safety, etc. People higher up than me were making bad decisions, with one owner putting the profits up his nose and the other giving all his money to his church. They ran the company into the ground within a year of inheriting it from their parents... although I'm not sure if even good managers could have saved it.

The problem with that is asshats like you who believe that workers should have ALL the rights and business owners should act on the whim of the union.

**** that, and **** you.

If unions were interested in being fair, it would be a different story. But shitheads like you don't want business owners to have any rights whatsoever, and that just won't fly.

Wow, hit a nerve, did I? Frankly, good managers wouldn't be bothered by that. They can maintain good relations by being fair.

Headhunters don't really bother with contacting people at either of my companies only because they know there's a snowball's chance in Hell that they can get them...

Do you really think that your employees would tell you if a headhunter contacted them?

I mean, come on... most people don't want their bosses to know they are looking at other options.

Is that what you think you did? Oh, Joey, no. No, you didn't, sport. Apologies for having given you that impression...

You've been stalking me for a week now.

I'd say you really are hurt... I'm sorry.

 

[Canon Shooter]

I fantastically improved it in terms of inventory accuracy, employee retention, fulfilled orders, warehouse safety, etc. People higher up than me were making bad decisions, with one owner putting the profits up his nose and the other giving all his money to his church.

Personally, the only people I know who work for drug addicts are other drug addicts.

Maybe you should see someone about your drug issues, Joe. Seriously, man, I care about you...

They ran the company into the ground within a year of inheriting it from their parents... although I'm not sure if even good managers could have saved it.

Well, nice to see you admit what's already known; that you weren't a good manager...

Wow, hit a nerve, did I?

Sorry, cupcake, you ain't that good...

Frankly, good managers wouldn't be bothered by that. They can maintain good relations by being fair.

See, the fatal flaw in your argument in favor of unions is that you make the blanket assumption that anyone who owns a company where the workers aren't unionized is evil, and that's just not true at all.

Go through that list of everything my company does for its employees and tell me what's evil. Tell me where a union rep could negotiate them a better deal and I'll show you the list of things that evaporate once the employees unionize.

That's an honest challenge which I don't think you're up to.

I dare you to prove me wrong...

Do you really think that your employees would tell you if a headhunter contacted them?

Oh, I've been told about it several times, usually with the employee laughing about it...

I mean, come on... most people don't want their bosses to know they are looking at other options.

That's what you can't seem to get through your thick skull: My people aren't looking at other options...

You've been stalking me for a week now.

You're fuckin' delusional.

We've been having a discussion and you see that as stalking?

I was unaware at how truly delicate your psyche must be. Maybe the internet's not for you...

I'd say you really are hurt... I'm sorry.

Says the guy who can't have a conversation without claiming he's being stalked.

You're a weird ****, I'll give ya' that...

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You like to "keep track" of your clients.

That's stalking.

You've got some serious issues...

Um, no, it would be stalking if They didn't friend or connect with me, and I was following them on line, anyway. That would be stalking.

Now, not sure if you are familiar with LinkedIn, but when you start a new position, it shows up as "Mary Smith started a new position at Acme". And usually when someone gets a job, I send them a nice note congratulating them.

I also know some people don't update their linked in, or don't really use it, because they sometimes show up as being at their old job. "Bob Smith is celebrating his fifth anniversery at EvilCo." when I know he quit three years ago.

Get with the times, Grandpa.

LinkedIn is one word as is online. Get with the times, old man.