Congressman: U.S. is heading towards a second civil war

[Rustic]

78% of Americans don't own guns. 7 million Americans own 160 million guns. Trump supporters are armed, & America is headed to civil war!

Actually retard 49 percent of households have firearms.

The actual figure is 42%.

Government says 47 percent

LOL.....
As far as they know......

I wonder what Government. I quoted a Gallup Poll that is about as accurate as any other out there. He wants to argue about a lousy 5%. Fine, you got your 47%. Was it worth it?

Progressives like yourselves will never understand rural America...

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Actually retard 49 percent of households have firearms.

The actual figure is 42%.

Government says 47 percent

LOL.....
As far as they know......

I wonder what Government. I quoted a Gallup Poll that is about as accurate as any other out there. He wants to argue about a lousy 5%. Fine, you got your 47%. Was it worth it?

Progressives like yourselves will never understand rural America...

Oh, really. Let's see. I started out life on a Ranch. Care to wonder just how many people were living per square mile? Maybe 2 or 3. In some areas, it's 2 or 3 square miles per person. Your idea of Rural America is a lie. So stop lying. You lost this one, cupcake. Move on to your next subject.

 

[Rustic]

The actual figure is 42%.

Government says 47 percent

LOL.....
As far as they know......

I wonder what Government. I quoted a Gallup Poll that is about as accurate as any other out there. He wants to argue about a lousy 5%. Fine, you got your 47%. Was it worth it?

Progressives like yourselves will never understand rural America...

Oh, really. Let's see. I started out life on a Ranch. Care to wonder just how many people were living per square mile? Maybe 2 or 3. In some areas, it's 2 or 3 square miles per person. Your idea of Rural America is a lie. So stop lying. You lost this one, cupcake. Move on to your next subject.

Na, most of America is rural.
And urban and rural America will never understand the other side… That’s just the way it is. Live with it

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Government says 47 percent

LOL.....
As far as they know......

I wonder what Government. I quoted a Gallup Poll that is about as accurate as any other out there. He wants to argue about a lousy 5%. Fine, you got your 47%. Was it worth it?

Progressives like yourselves will never understand rural America...

Oh, really. Let's see. I started out life on a Ranch. Care to wonder just how many people were living per square mile? Maybe 2 or 3. In some areas, it's 2 or 3 square miles per person. Your idea of Rural America is a lie. So stop lying. You lost this one, cupcake. Move on to your next subject.

Na, most of America is rural.
And urban and rural America will never understand the other side… That’s just the way it is. Live with it

So you think that Rural America should have it's own America. Right?

 

[Rustic]

LOL.....
As far as they know......

I wonder what Government. I quoted a Gallup Poll that is about as accurate as any other out there. He wants to argue about a lousy 5%. Fine, you got your 47%. Was it worth it?

Progressives like yourselves will never understand rural America...

Oh, really. Let's see. I started out life on a Ranch. Care to wonder just how many people were living per square mile? Maybe 2 or 3. In some areas, it's 2 or 3 square miles per person. Your idea of Rural America is a lie. So stop lying. You lost this one, cupcake. Move on to your next subject.

Na, most of America is rural.
And urban and rural America will never understand the other side… That’s just the way it is. Live with it

So you think that Rural America should have it's own America. Right?

There is no easy answer to the divide, that being rural and urban America.
What works for one will never work for the other no matter how it’s approached.
Race is not what divides America, it’s rural and urban.
Getting along is way overrated...

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I wonder what Government. I quoted a Gallup Poll that is about as accurate as any other out there. He wants to argue about a lousy 5%. Fine, you got your 47%. Was it worth it?

Progressives like yourselves will never understand rural America...

Oh, really. Let's see. I started out life on a Ranch. Care to wonder just how many people were living per square mile? Maybe 2 or 3. In some areas, it's 2 or 3 square miles per person. Your idea of Rural America is a lie. So stop lying. You lost this one, cupcake. Move on to your next subject.

Na, most of America is rural.
And urban and rural America will never understand the other side… That’s just the way it is. Live with it

So you think that Rural America should have it's own America. Right?

There is no easy answer to the divide, that being rural and urban America.
What works for one will never work for the other no matter how it’s approached.
Race is not what divides America, it’s rural and urban.
Getting along is way overrated...

And just how do you suggest we do the dividing lines? That's going to be some real creative Gerrymandering. When you figure that out, I am sure the GOP is going to want to keep that puppy a secret. So when you do come up with the way, you may want to put it a microfish and hand carry it to the head of the GOP or they just might have to have you killed. Can't have something like that made public, now can we.

 

[Rustic]

Progressives like yourselves will never understand rural America...

Oh, really. Let's see. I started out life on a Ranch. Care to wonder just how many people were living per square mile? Maybe 2 or 3. In some areas, it's 2 or 3 square miles per person. Your idea of Rural America is a lie. So stop lying. You lost this one, cupcake. Move on to your next subject.

Na, most of America is rural.
And urban and rural America will never understand the other side… That’s just the way it is. Live with it

So you think that Rural America should have it's own America. Right?

There is no easy answer to the divide, that being rural and urban America.
What works for one will never work for the other no matter how it’s approached.
Race is not what divides America, it’s rural and urban.
Getting along is way overrated...

And just how do you suggest we do the dividing lines? That's going to be some real creative Gerrymandering. When you figure that out, I am sure the GOP is going to want to keep that puppy a secret. So when you do come up with the way, you may want to put it a microfish and hand carry it to the head of the GOP or they just might have to have you killed. Can't have something like that made public, now can we.

Progressives want to control everyone they disagree with, it is the very essence of who they are.
Rural America mostly want to keep to themselves, I want zero say on what urban America does with urban America....

 

[Pilot1]

There is an urban/metro area (cities, and suburbs) vs rural divide today. You're right it isn't regional, it is state by state where liberal/progressive metro areas rule due to their large populations. The more rural regions woke up for Trump. Maybe metro areas should be their own territories, and rural theirs with separate laws, governments, and politicians.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Oh, really. Let's see. I started out life on a Ranch. Care to wonder just how many people were living per square mile? Maybe 2 or 3. In some areas, it's 2 or 3 square miles per person. Your idea of Rural America is a lie. So stop lying. You lost this one, cupcake. Move on to your next subject.

Na, most of America is rural.
And urban and rural America will never understand the other side… That’s just the way it is. Live with it

So you think that Rural America should have it's own America. Right?

There is no easy answer to the divide, that being rural and urban America.
What works for one will never work for the other no matter how it’s approached.
Race is not what divides America, it’s rural and urban.
Getting along is way overrated...

And just how do you suggest we do the dividing lines? That's going to be some real creative Gerrymandering. When you figure that out, I am sure the GOP is going to want to keep that puppy a secret. So when you do come up with the way, you may want to put it a microfish and hand carry it to the head of the GOP or they just might have to have you killed. Can't have something like that made public, now can we.

Progressives want to control everyone they disagree with, it is the very essence of who they are.
Rural America mostly want to keep to themselves, I want zero say on what urban America does with urban America....

You say you want no say. Okay, let's give it to you. You also get no say as well. Let's take a look at your day to day life and you are not going to use anything meant for the Urban America. Sounds good and you have my blessing. I have lived that way in the past. You aren't old enough to remember it.

Your floor is either dirt of rough hewn lumber

You have to make your own kerosene or something to read with

You heat your house (yes I know it gets damned cold where you are) with a wood stove unless you found a coal deposit.

You will use wood to cook with or coal from the deposit if you are lucky enough to find one

You are going to have to have a large garden and a root cellar that you dug by hand

Sorry, no Guns since even the powder and shot will be done in an Urban Area

No Gas for your Car. And no Car either. No Pickup Truck. But you can have a horse or two or three

You are going to have to plant and harvest flax for clothing

No Roads unless you make it yourself.

No Electricity unless you use nature to make it

And I am just getting started

Do you see what is happening? You depend on Urban America as much as Urban America depends on Rural America. Urban America depends on Rural America for Food, Clothing and more. But for manufactured goods, Rural America depends on Urban America in order to produce enough goods to supply the needs of all. You can't separate the two. They are linked.

 

[beagle9]

Congressman: U.S. is Heading Towards a Second Civil War

Republican Congressman Steve King warns that America is heading towards a second civil war as a result of the increasingly polarized political environment gripping the country.

“America is heading in the direction of another Harpers Ferry. After that comes Ft. Sumter,” tweeted King, with a link to an article about how “Occupy” protesters shut down an ICE office in Portland, Oregon.

Harpers Ferry is a reference to the Battle of Harpers Ferry, when Gen.
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The warnings keep coming but the sheep just keep plowing along like stoned idiots. They are going to get just what htey want and then live their biggest reality in regret when they realize what fkn morons they are and have been.

It's comingg and ppl are sick of you TRUMP HATING ASSHOLES...

The best part is it's all coming from political figures making the claims not some blogger sitting in their living room.

It appears Steve King may be a closet alt-righter and possibly a 'militant militia' type, they salivate at the phrase "civil war" like Pavlov's dogs did with the ringing of a bell. Will there be another civil war? Possibly but that may be decades or longer down the road.

Steve King is an idiot of the first water who doesn't understand what the English language says. He simply uses words that he thinks sounds important, like when he accused Boehner of his mendacity.

He's simply taking a page out of the Trump playbook and pandering to people's fears.

Mendacity or Mentality ??

 

[Daryl Hunt]

There is an urban/metro area (cities, and suburbs) vs rural divide today. You're right it isn't regional, it is state by state where liberal/progressive metro areas rule due to their large populations. The more rural regions woke up for Trump. Maybe metro areas should be their own territories, and rural theirs with separate laws, governments, and politicians.

Actually, Trump lied out his ass and much of the Urban and Suburban bought into the lie. He fed on their fears. And those chickens are just now coming home to roost. Candidates are supposed to lie a bit to get elected. That's expected. But the trick is to not allow the rubes to notice it so close to the next election.

As for separating Rural from Urban/Suburban, good luck with that.

 

[Rustic]

Na, most of America is rural.
And urban and rural America will never understand the other side… That’s just the way it is. Live with it

So you think that Rural America should have it's own America. Right?

There is no easy answer to the divide, that being rural and urban America.
What works for one will never work for the other no matter how it’s approached.
Race is not what divides America, it’s rural and urban.
Getting along is way overrated...

And just how do you suggest we do the dividing lines? That's going to be some real creative Gerrymandering. When you figure that out, I am sure the GOP is going to want to keep that puppy a secret. So when you do come up with the way, you may want to put it a microfish and hand carry it to the head of the GOP or they just might have to have you killed. Can't have something like that made public, now can we.

Progressives want to control everyone they disagree with, it is the very essence of who they are.
Rural America mostly want to keep to themselves, I want zero say on what urban America does with urban America....

You say you want no say. Okay, let's give it to you. You also get no say as well. Let's take a look at your day to day life and you are not going to use anything meant for the Urban America. Sounds good and you have my blessing. I have lived that way in the past. You aren't old enough to remember it.

Your floor is either dirt of rough hewn lumber

You have to make your own kerosene or something to read with

You heat your house (yes I know it gets damned cold where you are) with a wood stove unless you found a coal deposit.

You will use wood to cook with or coal from the deposit if you are lucky enough to find one

You are going to have to have a large garden and a root cellar that you dug by hand

Sorry, no Guns since even the powder and shot will be done in an Urban Area

No Gas for your Car. And no Car either. No Pickup Truck. But you can have a horse or two or three

You are going to have to plant and harvest flax for clothing

No Roads unless you make it yourself.

No Electricity unless you use nature to make it

And I am just getting started

Do you see what is happening? You depend on Urban America as much as Urban America depends on Rural America. Urban America depends on Rural America for Food, Clothing and more. But for manufactured goods, Rural America depends on Urban America in order to produce enough goods to supply the needs of all. You can't separate the two. They are linked.

That’s why say there is no easy answer, the two will never understand each other... it was never meant to be.
I grew up on the pine ridge Indian reservation, It was/is a 100% government controlled socialist system.... In other words a world of shit and piss. Pine Ridge Statistics

And right now I live about as far from urban America as anyone can in the lower 48... 90% of the roads I Drive on are gravel, and I hunt and grow all my and my family’s food.

But the collective will never solve anything

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Actually retard 49 percent of households have firearms.

The actual figure is 42%.

Government says 47 percent

LOL.....
As far as they know......

I wonder what Government. I quoted a Gallup Poll that is about as accurate as any other out there. He wants to argue about a lousy 5%. Fine, you got your 47%. Was it worth it?

Progressives like yourselves will never understand rural America...

Junior, I started out life in Rural America. I understand it better than you do obviously.

 

[Rustic]

The actual figure is 42%.

Government says 47 percent

LOL.....
As far as they know......

I wonder what Government. I quoted a Gallup Poll that is about as accurate as any other out there. He wants to argue about a lousy 5%. Fine, you got your 47%. Was it worth it?

Progressives like yourselves will never understand rural America...

Junior, I started out life in Rural America. I understand it better than you do obviously.

Na, not really.
You’re a progressive living in urban America. You only understand urban America…

 

[Daryl Hunt]

So you think that Rural America should have it's own America. Right?

There is no easy answer to the divide, that being rural and urban America.
What works for one will never work for the other no matter how it’s approached.
Race is not what divides America, it’s rural and urban.
Getting along is way overrated...

And just how do you suggest we do the dividing lines? That's going to be some real creative Gerrymandering. When you figure that out, I am sure the GOP is going to want to keep that puppy a secret. So when you do come up with the way, you may want to put it a microfish and hand carry it to the head of the GOP or they just might have to have you killed. Can't have something like that made public, now can we.

Progressives want to control everyone they disagree with, it is the very essence of who they are.
Rural America mostly want to keep to themselves, I want zero say on what urban America does with urban America....

You say you want no say. Okay, let's give it to you. You also get no say as well. Let's take a look at your day to day life and you are not going to use anything meant for the Urban America. Sounds good and you have my blessing. I have lived that way in the past. You aren't old enough to remember it.

Your floor is either dirt of rough hewn lumber

You have to make your own kerosene or something to read with

You heat your house (yes I know it gets damned cold where you are) with a wood stove unless you found a coal deposit.

You will use wood to cook with or coal from the deposit if you are lucky enough to find one

You are going to have to have a large garden and a root cellar that you dug by hand

Sorry, no Guns since even the powder and shot will be done in an Urban Area

No Gas for your Car. And no Car either. No Pickup Truck. But you can have a horse or two or three

You are going to have to plant and harvest flax for clothing

No Roads unless you make it yourself.

No Electricity unless you use nature to make it

And I am just getting started

Do you see what is happening? You depend on Urban America as much as Urban America depends on Rural America. Urban America depends on Rural America for Food, Clothing and more. But for manufactured goods, Rural America depends on Urban America in order to produce enough goods to supply the needs of all. You can't separate the two. They are linked.

That’s why say there is no easy answer, the two will never understand each other... it was never meant to be.
I grew up on the pine ridge Indian reservation, It was/is a 100% government controlled socialist system.... In other words a world of shit and piss. Pine Ridge Statistics

And right now I live about as far from urban America as anyone can in the lower 48... 90% of the roads I Drive on are gravel, and I hunt and grow all my and my family’s food.

But the collective will never solve anything

I've lived like that. I come from an area that until the last 40 years, the only roads that were paved were either in towns or the US Highway Systems. Things have changed. I still enjoy visiting the outback areas and spending time there. But I have to go a bit further to get to them these days. You seem to forget that I am High Country Rocky Mountain Stock, Born and Bred. I just choose not to live like that anymore. It's nice to revisit it once in awhile but I am just too old to do it anymore for a living. Someday, you are going to have to move closer to town as well.

 

[Rustic]

There is no easy answer to the divide, that being rural and urban America.
What works for one will never work for the other no matter how it’s approached.
Race is not what divides America, it’s rural and urban.
Getting along is way overrated...

And just how do you suggest we do the dividing lines? That's going to be some real creative Gerrymandering. When you figure that out, I am sure the GOP is going to want to keep that puppy a secret. So when you do come up with the way, you may want to put it a microfish and hand carry it to the head of the GOP or they just might have to have you killed. Can't have something like that made public, now can we.

Progressives want to control everyone they disagree with, it is the very essence of who they are.
Rural America mostly want to keep to themselves, I want zero say on what urban America does with urban America....

You say you want no say. Okay, let's give it to you. You also get no say as well. Let's take a look at your day to day life and you are not going to use anything meant for the Urban America. Sounds good and you have my blessing. I have lived that way in the past. You aren't old enough to remember it.

Your floor is either dirt of rough hewn lumber

You have to make your own kerosene or something to read with

You heat your house (yes I know it gets damned cold where you are) with a wood stove unless you found a coal deposit.

You will use wood to cook with or coal from the deposit if you are lucky enough to find one

You are going to have to have a large garden and a root cellar that you dug by hand

Sorry, no Guns since even the powder and shot will be done in an Urban Area

No Gas for your Car. And no Car either. No Pickup Truck. But you can have a horse or two or three

You are going to have to plant and harvest flax for clothing

No Roads unless you make it yourself.

No Electricity unless you use nature to make it

And I am just getting started

Do you see what is happening? You depend on Urban America as much as Urban America depends on Rural America. Urban America depends on Rural America for Food, Clothing and more. But for manufactured goods, Rural America depends on Urban America in order to produce enough goods to supply the needs of all. You can't separate the two. They are linked.

That’s why say there is no easy answer, the two will never understand each other... it was never meant to be.
I grew up on the pine ridge Indian reservation, It was/is a 100% government controlled socialist system.... In other words a world of shit and piss. Pine Ridge Statistics

And right now I live about as far from urban America as anyone can in the lower 48... 90% of the roads I Drive on are gravel, and I hunt and grow all my and my family’s food.

But the collective will never solve anything

I've lived like that. I come from an area that until the last 40 years, the only roads that were paved were either in towns or the US Highway Systems. Things have changed. I still enjoy visiting the outback areas and spending time there. But I have to go a bit further to get to them these days. You seem to forget that I am High Country Rocky Mountain Stock, Born and Bred. I just choose not to live like that anymore. It's nice to revisit it once in awhile but I am just too old to do it anymore for a living. Someday, you are going to have to move closer to town as well.

The the older I get the more set in my ways I become... I become more libertarian every day that goes by

 

[Daryl Hunt]

And just how do you suggest we do the dividing lines? That's going to be some real creative Gerrymandering. When you figure that out, I am sure the GOP is going to want to keep that puppy a secret. So when you do come up with the way, you may want to put it a microfish and hand carry it to the head of the GOP or they just might have to have you killed. Can't have something like that made public, now can we.

Progressives want to control everyone they disagree with, it is the very essence of who they are.
Rural America mostly want to keep to themselves, I want zero say on what urban America does with urban America....

You say you want no say. Okay, let's give it to you. You also get no say as well. Let's take a look at your day to day life and you are not going to use anything meant for the Urban America. Sounds good and you have my blessing. I have lived that way in the past. You aren't old enough to remember it.

Your floor is either dirt of rough hewn lumber

You have to make your own kerosene or something to read with

You heat your house (yes I know it gets damned cold where you are) with a wood stove unless you found a coal deposit.

You will use wood to cook with or coal from the deposit if you are lucky enough to find one

You are going to have to have a large garden and a root cellar that you dug by hand

Sorry, no Guns since even the powder and shot will be done in an Urban Area

No Gas for your Car. And no Car either. No Pickup Truck. But you can have a horse or two or three

You are going to have to plant and harvest flax for clothing

No Roads unless you make it yourself.

No Electricity unless you use nature to make it

And I am just getting started

Do you see what is happening? You depend on Urban America as much as Urban America depends on Rural America. Urban America depends on Rural America for Food, Clothing and more. But for manufactured goods, Rural America depends on Urban America in order to produce enough goods to supply the needs of all. You can't separate the two. They are linked.

That’s why say there is no easy answer, the two will never understand each other... it was never meant to be.
I grew up on the pine ridge Indian reservation, It was/is a 100% government controlled socialist system.... In other words a world of shit and piss. Pine Ridge Statistics

And right now I live about as far from urban America as anyone can in the lower 48... 90% of the roads I Drive on are gravel, and I hunt and grow all my and my family’s food.

But the collective will never solve anything

I've lived like that. I come from an area that until the last 40 years, the only roads that were paved were either in towns or the US Highway Systems. Things have changed. I still enjoy visiting the outback areas and spending time there. But I have to go a bit further to get to them these days. You seem to forget that I am High Country Rocky Mountain Stock, Born and Bred. I just choose not to live like that anymore. It's nice to revisit it once in awhile but I am just too old to do it anymore for a living. Someday, you are going to have to move closer to town as well.

The the older I get the more set in my ways I become... I become more libertarian every day that goes by

I just did some research on Libertarian and find that you are cherry picking even that. I am actually closer to a libertarian than you are. A Libertarian is NOT set in his ways. He is capable of learning and adapting. And he cares about his fellow man (generic term). And he doesn't speak for others. He only speaks for himself. When is views harm others or allow others to be harmed them he MUST do a rethink. There is a lot of what makes up a Libertarian other than the distrust of all Governments. In fact, this country was founded by a bunch of Libertarians and much of what they believed still holds fast today. They believed that Government was necessary. You are just cherry picking what a libertarian is.

 

[Rustic]

Progressives want to control everyone they disagree with, it is the very essence of who they are.
Rural America mostly want to keep to themselves, I want zero say on what urban America does with urban America....

You say you want no say. Okay, let's give it to you. You also get no say as well. Let's take a look at your day to day life and you are not going to use anything meant for the Urban America. Sounds good and you have my blessing. I have lived that way in the past. You aren't old enough to remember it.

Your floor is either dirt of rough hewn lumber

You have to make your own kerosene or something to read with

You heat your house (yes I know it gets damned cold where you are) with a wood stove unless you found a coal deposit.

You will use wood to cook with or coal from the deposit if you are lucky enough to find one

You are going to have to have a large garden and a root cellar that you dug by hand

Sorry, no Guns since even the powder and shot will be done in an Urban Area

No Gas for your Car. And no Car either. No Pickup Truck. But you can have a horse or two or three

You are going to have to plant and harvest flax for clothing

No Roads unless you make it yourself.

No Electricity unless you use nature to make it

And I am just getting started

Do you see what is happening? You depend on Urban America as much as Urban America depends on Rural America. Urban America depends on Rural America for Food, Clothing and more. But for manufactured goods, Rural America depends on Urban America in order to produce enough goods to supply the needs of all. You can't separate the two. They are linked.

That’s why say there is no easy answer, the two will never understand each other... it was never meant to be.
I grew up on the pine ridge Indian reservation, It was/is a 100% government controlled socialist system.... In other words a world of shit and piss. Pine Ridge Statistics

And right now I live about as far from urban America as anyone can in the lower 48... 90% of the roads I Drive on are gravel, and I hunt and grow all my and my family’s food.

But the collective will never solve anything

I've lived like that. I come from an area that until the last 40 years, the only roads that were paved were either in towns or the US Highway Systems. Things have changed. I still enjoy visiting the outback areas and spending time there. But I have to go a bit further to get to them these days. You seem to forget that I am High Country Rocky Mountain Stock, Born and Bred. I just choose not to live like that anymore. It's nice to revisit it once in awhile but I am just too old to do it anymore for a living. Someday, you are going to have to move closer to town as well.

The the older I get the more set in my ways I become... I become more libertarian every day that goes by

I just did some research on Libertarian and find that you are cherry picking even that. I am actually closer to a libertarian than you are. A Libertarian is NOT set in his ways. He is capable of learning and adapting. And he cares about his fellow man (generic term). And he doesn't speak for others. He only speaks for himself. When is views harm others or allow others to be harmed them he MUST do a rethink. There is a lot of what makes up a Libertarian other than the distrust of all Governments. In fact, this country was founded by a bunch of Libertarians and much of what they believed still holds fast today. They believed that Government was necessary. You are just cherry picking what a libertarian is.

The base of being a libertarian is absolute distrust of the federal government...
Everything else is secondary

 

[Daryl Hunt]

You say you want no say. Okay, let's give it to you. You also get no say as well. Let's take a look at your day to day life and you are not going to use anything meant for the Urban America. Sounds good and you have my blessing. I have lived that way in the past. You aren't old enough to remember it.

Your floor is either dirt of rough hewn lumber

You have to make your own kerosene or something to read with

You heat your house (yes I know it gets damned cold where you are) with a wood stove unless you found a coal deposit.

You will use wood to cook with or coal from the deposit if you are lucky enough to find one

You are going to have to have a large garden and a root cellar that you dug by hand

Sorry, no Guns since even the powder and shot will be done in an Urban Area

No Gas for your Car. And no Car either. No Pickup Truck. But you can have a horse or two or three

You are going to have to plant and harvest flax for clothing

No Roads unless you make it yourself.

No Electricity unless you use nature to make it

And I am just getting started

Do you see what is happening? You depend on Urban America as much as Urban America depends on Rural America. Urban America depends on Rural America for Food, Clothing and more. But for manufactured goods, Rural America depends on Urban America in order to produce enough goods to supply the needs of all. You can't separate the two. They are linked.

That’s why say there is no easy answer, the two will never understand each other... it was never meant to be.
I grew up on the pine ridge Indian reservation, It was/is a 100% government controlled socialist system.... In other words a world of shit and piss. Pine Ridge Statistics

And right now I live about as far from urban America as anyone can in the lower 48... 90% of the roads I Drive on are gravel, and I hunt and grow all my and my family’s food.

But the collective will never solve anything

I've lived like that. I come from an area that until the last 40 years, the only roads that were paved were either in towns or the US Highway Systems. Things have changed. I still enjoy visiting the outback areas and spending time there. But I have to go a bit further to get to them these days. You seem to forget that I am High Country Rocky Mountain Stock, Born and Bred. I just choose not to live like that anymore. It's nice to revisit it once in awhile but I am just too old to do it anymore for a living. Someday, you are going to have to move closer to town as well.

The the older I get the more set in my ways I become... I become more libertarian every day that goes by

I just did some research on Libertarian and find that you are cherry picking even that. I am actually closer to a libertarian than you are. A Libertarian is NOT set in his ways. He is capable of learning and adapting. And he cares about his fellow man (generic term). And he doesn't speak for others. He only speaks for himself. When is views harm others or allow others to be harmed them he MUST do a rethink. There is a lot of what makes up a Libertarian other than the distrust of all Governments. In fact, this country was founded by a bunch of Libertarians and much of what they believed still holds fast today. They believed that Government was necessary. You are just cherry picking what a libertarian is.

The base of being a libertarian is absolute distrust of the federal government...
Everything else is secondary

Wrong. It's the wariness of ANY Government. But the acceptance that governments are needed. You are cherry picking.

 

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That’s why say there is no easy answer, the two will never understand each other... it was never meant to be.
I grew up on the pine ridge Indian reservation, It was/is a 100% government controlled socialist system.... In other words a world of shit and piss. Pine Ridge Statistics

And right now I live about as far from urban America as anyone can in the lower 48... 90% of the roads I Drive on are gravel, and I hunt and grow all my and my family’s food.

But the collective will never solve anything

I've lived like that. I come from an area that until the last 40 years, the only roads that were paved were either in towns or the US Highway Systems. Things have changed. I still enjoy visiting the outback areas and spending time there. But I have to go a bit further to get to them these days. You seem to forget that I am High Country Rocky Mountain Stock, Born and Bred. I just choose not to live like that anymore. It's nice to revisit it once in awhile but I am just too old to do it anymore for a living. Someday, you are going to have to move closer to town as well.

The the older I get the more set in my ways I become... I become more libertarian every day that goes by

I just did some research on Libertarian and find that you are cherry picking even that. I am actually closer to a libertarian than you are. A Libertarian is NOT set in his ways. He is capable of learning and adapting. And he cares about his fellow man (generic term). And he doesn't speak for others. He only speaks for himself. When is views harm others or allow others to be harmed them he MUST do a rethink. There is a lot of what makes up a Libertarian other than the distrust of all Governments. In fact, this country was founded by a bunch of Libertarians and much of what they believed still holds fast today. They believed that Government was necessary. You are just cherry picking what a libertarian is.

The base of being a libertarian is absolute distrust of the federal government...
Everything else is secondary

Wrong. It's the wariness of ANY Government. But the acceptance that governments are needed. You are cherry picking.

The federal government is so infinitely large, Nothing good can come from it.
It can longer be considered a government… It’s a collective